How to Identify a Baccarat Scammer, Fraudster, Liar, Troll or Delusional Bragger

[The Boz]

Eliot is and has always been the real deal. His old website was a bonanza of knowledge for those who understand how to use it. And saved a lot of money and time for people chasing things they thought seemed like plays but they didn’t do the math on. No one can argue he is not a mathematical genius.

I know some bitched that he gave away too much and hurt some AP’s but the guy was honest about what he did. And admitted BJ wasn’t for him. How many have been as honest as Eliot has been with exactly what he was doing? Mike can’t and we all know he worked for the V and never fully explained what he did there and why it didn’t last. And look at Dancer and his relationships with casinos over the years.

And for the most telling thing of all, you can’t find a place or time I said a negative things about Eliot. It may not mean much but there aren’t many people in this community you can say that about.��

It appears you are well versed on Eliot and his past. I assume your knowledge about his talents were gathered more during your gambling years. Can you give an example of how his bonanza of information website actually helped you defeat the casinos? Was his math information different from Shanks? Shouldn’t they both come to the same conclusions. After all the math is the math.

You say for fact, you never said a negative thing about Eliot makes him a stand out in this community. Please explain why your opinion is worth more than mine or anyone else’s here?

Also, after reading all these posts about all these AP’s who tried to sell their different information to casinos says a lot about the AP community. I guess when their plays start drying up, they’ll do and sell anything for a buck. Sounds more like desperation to me instead of strong profits.

I’ll try to answer. My opinion is worth the same as everyone else’s here without history on context, not much. But when you combine multiple people who one can tell know what they are talking about, things have a high probability of being true. That happens over time, not with a few posts. And when personal experience with what you read turns out to be correct, credibility goes up. It’s why something Mickey says about a game has more credibility than something a new poster says. Just simple common sense. But in my case, my opinion can be accepted at what exactly you make it worth.

As for the info, in my case it was saving me money more than making me money. I used to play a lot of BJ in my early trips to Vegas. I played BS and always looked for ways to play for as little cost as possible without going into counting for entertainment value. I tried counting on a basic system and quickly realized it wasn’t worth it to me. I’ve never hid what I played and it’s what brought me to these sites years ago. I had the dumb idea some side bets could be beaten by simple counting too. Eliot’s work showed me I was correct that they could be on one in particular, but it took much more than I thought it did and knew again it wasn’t for me. And on another I was way off in my uneducated thoughts on the bet.

As for comparing him to Mike, I personally used both and have no idea if they ever came to different conclusions on a game, but that is not even what is being talked about here.

And I’ll tell you something I’ve told you many times. I’m grateful for the people I’ve met (even if I never actually MET them) on these sites and made money from it. And no one has ever tried to take advantage of me or scam me. It is not life changing money, but it’s definitely saved me at times and made me money others by me simply being willing to listen and learn.

And it’s why I can easily see something as probably Bullshit right from the start. Common sense is a valuable tool in life and can’t be taught. Some need to use it more.