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  1. #6641
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    Makes sense. So

    has created sock puppets, and uses VPN, and is objecting to others' using VPN and claiming that others are creating socks?

    As I've said before, if I didn't bother to create any socks while I was suspended at WOV for four months, I surely wouldn't bother to create any now. But looks like

    creates socks both when he is suspended and not.

    That’s exactly what this one is,

    who can't stop yapping uncontrollably out a rigid doll face, because of his Impulse Control Disorder.



    Psychiatry, clinical psychology. Impulse-control disorder (ICD) is a class of psychiatric disorders characterized by impulsivity – failure to resist a temptation, an urge, or an impulse; or having the inability to not speak on a thought.
    If you had any real argument and defenses, you could make them without these attacks, but you don't so you lie (never used a VPN) and attack like a bigoted low life.

    At WoV, you are playing the part of a wealthy, sophisticated, upstanding, James Bond type, who tips well and treats people well. So people from WoV that are reading and even the membership here, and seeing you post lies and homophobic remarks, because you have no other answers, what do you think that does to your credibility. You are simply revealing the real you, that none of what you portray is true.

    It isn't me, or Axelwolf or anyone else that has revealed who you really are, it is you. Given a little rope you guys always hang yourself. It is pre-built into the equation. Your narcissism pushes you further and further, to more extremes, until you have unknowingly exposed yourself.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  2. #6642
    Anyway, heading out to work. Think I will also bet Baylor. I find something very dislikable about Gonzaga and Drew Timme. Gonzaga was more likeable in the underdog role all those year.

    And who knows, maybe the blind squirrel (monet) will post a hockey pick or two that I can piggyback on, hoping today is the day the blind squirrel finds an acorn. I mean a broken clock is right twice a day.

    edit: To give credit, monets hockey picks are decent. his problem is he parlays everything into 3 or 4 team parleys. I take his picks and play individual games, even laying a little on a favorite. If it is 2 much to lay straight, I will go with puck line, but I don't like that. You would be surprised how many hockey games end up a 1 goal game....especially when you are laying 1.5 goals.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  3. #6643
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    Makes sense. So

    has created sock puppets, and is claiming that others are creating socks?

    As I've said before, if I didn't bother to create any socks while I was suspended at WOV for four months, I surely wouldn't bother to create any now. But looks like

    creates socks both when he is suspended and not.

    That’s exactly what this UNKewlJ is,
    Originally Posted by Ozzy View Post
    the drama queen KJ
    who can't stop yapping uncontrollably out a rigid doll face, because of his Impulse Control Disorder.

    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post

    Psychiatry, clinical psychology. Impulse-control disorder (ICD) is a class of psychiatric disorders characterized by impulsivity – failure to resist a temptation, an urge, or an impulse; or having the inability to not speak on a thought.
    Looks like over at WOV he just butted in, at length, into yet another thread where he is unwanted.

    There is just no possible way that this guy could be successful at BlackJack. He can't even keep his mouth shut, can't make a decision without going back on it, can't commit to one action without wondering if he should have gone another way, and - now that I know that he lied about creating socks, I'd have to say that given his admission that he ended up in the red and gave up last year, that this is just the tip of the iceberg of admissions for him, he must've lost many other years too.

    Man, providing real world information for any civilians who are reading is a pain in the ass. But here we go. First off, kewlj never reported an actual losing year. So let's get that straight.

    Second, MDawg, in the post above, makes it sound as if a losing year or years suggests that an AP is doing something obviously wrong. While I can't speak for games like blackjack or baccarat, I can speak for those who bet sports. So if you consider sports betting a form of AP'ing (most do; I'm not sure about it), here's the proper context:

    Historically, I have lost once between every six or seven years. That doesn't count the last decade, where I generally do not lose, but I have become conservative in my old age so variance is down, but my winnings per year are down. Now I'm reasonably proficient at what I do (which is relatively specific; 85% of wagering volume on college football), so having taken a loss every six or seven years is actually a very good outcome.

    Thus, in summary, having a losing year is not only a NOT a big deal; it's to be expected. What you learn and how you respond are more important than the fact that you had a losing year. The idea that handicappers, by deign of being "sharps" (gag me with a spoon) just reel off winning year after winning year is a myth. The only handicapper who I believe never had a losing year was the semi-legendary Southern Comfort (Larry Fletcher), and what he was doing was comprehensive, 24/7 arbitrage of all sports and keeping tabs on all of the best specialists.

    An AP admitting to a losing year is not a big deal. Even blackjack players, who should manage to put in enough hands to relegate a losing year to extremely unlikely, may occasionally run into a 12-month bad variance run.

  4. #6644
    I don't know why you bother. By now every casino in town must know your high pitched whiny voice and
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Fag
    mannerisms. Well, but anyway, I suppose all you're trying to do is match your record from last year of ending in the red and giving up.

    And it doesn't surprise me that you misquoted me, more drama queen nonsense.

    Where do you work anyway? I assume something like a receptionist for a hair salon (if you're in shape and good looking enough, people on here are saying NO on both counts about ye), or perhaps answering calls for AT&T.

    And again it doesn't surprise me that someone who accuses others falsely of creating socks, has been caught doing it multiple times.

    Didn't you fake your own death online? If that isn't the ultimate sock puppetry...and evidence of complete deceit....
    Last edited by MDawg; 04-05-2021 at 10:16 AM.
    I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.

    MDawg Adventures carry on at: https://www.truepassage.com/forums/f.../46-IPlayVegas

  5. #6645
    REDietz, I realize you are trying to interject some reason into this discussion, but take a look at the past half dozen or so posts from this UNKewlJ manic clown and tell me if he even deserves anything other than a well-poisoning response.
    I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.

    MDawg Adventures carry on at: https://www.truepassage.com/forums/f.../46-IPlayVegas

  6. #6646
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    Where do you work anyway? I assume something like a receptionist for a hair salon, or answering calls for AT&T.
    I work in casinos at the blackjack tables, you stupid douche bag. Seriously, how dumb can you be? When you are in las Vegas do they chauffer you around in a short special needs bus to make you feel at home?

    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Man, providing real world information for any civilians who are reading is a pain in the ass. But here we go. First off, kewlj never reported an actual losing year. So let's get that straight.

    Second, MDawg, in the post above, makes it sound as if a losing year or years suggests that an AP is doing something obviously wrong. While I can't speak for games like blackjack or baccarat, I can speak for those who bet sports. So if you consider sports betting a form of AP'ing (most do; I'm not sure about it), here's the proper context:

    Historically, I have lost once between every six or seven years. That doesn't count the last decade, where I generally do not lose, but I have become conservative in my old age so variance is down, but my winnings per year are down. Now I'm reasonably proficient at what I do (which is relatively specific; 85% of wagering volume on college football), so having taken a loss every six or seven years is actually a very good outcome.

    Thus, in summary, having a losing year is not only a NOT a big deal; it's to be expected. What you learn and how you respond are more important than the fact that you had a losing year. The idea that handicappers, by deign of being "sharps" (gag me with a spoon) just reel off winning year after winning year is a myth. The only handicapper who I believe never had a losing year was the semi-legendary Southern Comfort (Larry Fletcher), and what he was doing was comprehensive, 24/7 arbitrage of all sports and keeping tabs on all of the best specialists.

    An AP admitting to a losing year is not a big deal. Even blackjack players, who should manage to put in enough hands to relegate a losing year to extremely unlikely, may occasionally run into a 12-month bad variance run.
    Thanks for attempting to set the record straight redietz. As you can see the truth matters little to someone like Mdawg. They live in an alternative reality and make everything up.

    I know of other professional blackjack players that have had losing years. In fairness these guys play bigger stakes than me, and less rounds. So, it kind of fits that with a smaller sample size they might have an entire year in the red, if things go bad. I am more of a grinder, playing mid stakes, but putting in more rounds. For someone like me, a whole year.....a normal whole year, ending in the red is less likely. But not impossible. I have had 2 years way below expectation, one I made 26k vs expectation of 87k, and last year, playing higher stakes than normal, I made 14k vs expectation of 70-some K.

    These years were so far below expectation, there isn't much difference between +14k and slightly in the red. If I had finished slightly in the red, as I teetered most of the year, I would have gladly shared that. I want people, especially newer players to see what variance is and how it really works. My own brother, 4 or 5 years now playing, not sure, and every year he has been at expectation or above. His expectation is a little lower than mine, for reasons I won't get into, but every year he has been above expectation. So my year last year, while not good for me, was actually good for him to see to prepare him for what can and likely will occur some year.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  7. #6647
    Not buying it that anyone so obviously inept and unlucky could be successful at anything, let alone blackjack.

    And again it doesn't surprise me that someone who accuses others falsely of creating socks, has been caught doing it multiple times.

    Didn't you fake your own death online? If that isn't the ultimate sock puppetry...and evidence of complete deceit....
    I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.

    MDawg Adventures carry on at: https://www.truepassage.com/forums/f.../46-IPlayVegas

  8. #6648
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post

    Didn't you fake your own death online? If that isn't the ultimate sock puppetry...and evidence of complete deceit....
    God you are dumb! How does faking your own death have anything to do with sockpuppetry?

    And yes, I did fake my own death a decade ago. I am not proud of it. It was a bad decision. I did have reasons of protecting myself, but i'll just repeat, it was a bad decision. I take responsibility for that. I didn't run and hide, or create a new identity. I am still here.

    You know why you and others are able to use that against me? Because I am honest about it and honest about everything I share, the good and the bad, because it is all real, so people are able to pick out some things to use against me. You on the other hand are just a lying phony, about almost everything you post, certainly all your gambling winning. It is just make believe.

    Now, I am off. Maybe I will read while eating my lunch, but I doubt it, cause I wanna get home for the game.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  9. #6649
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    REDietz, I realize you are trying to interject some reason into this discussion, but take a look at the past half dozen or so posts from this UNKewlJ manic clown and tell me if he even deserves anything other than a well-poisoning response.
    It's for the civilians, Dawg. I don't know how many actually read stuff on this forum, but I have gotten the occasional note every once in awhile thanking me for putting things in some context.

  10. #6650
    Is it difficult to put in context someone who creates socks then accuses others falsely of creating socks?
    I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.

    MDawg Adventures carry on at: https://www.truepassage.com/forums/f.../46-IPlayVegas

  11. #6651
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Originally Posted by Ozzy View Post
    Its pretty comical that an anti vpn advocate is using one himself, along with many others. Many of whom are good posters, with a couple of exceptions. Your quite the drama queen KJ, but interesting none the less.
    I keep confusing VPN with VIP.
    I don't need VPN, Condoms or a Covid Vaccine.
    I like to gamble.

    Anyone is welcome to show up outside my door.
    The more the merrier.
    Bring Pepsi made with Real Sugar or Fuck It... Bring Coke Classic.
    I prefer Coca-Cola but recently have been falling for this Pepsi with Real Sugar.
    They are probably lying to me.
    Does Coke have a real sugar option?
    Never noticed if they do.
    Either product seems to kill any infection inside or outside of the body.
    Haha, even though I haven't drank pop in over 10 years, only water, black coffee( full fat cream with my 1 meal a day) and tea for me. I know they had real sugar, not that corn syrup poison about 25-30 years ago. Not sure nowadays if they have the authentic stuff or not.

  12. #6652
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    Is it difficult to put in context someone who creates socks then accuses others falsely of creating socks?
    I didn't say anything about socks. I was talking about your post and its connotation that having a losing year as an "AP" is either unusual or a huge strike against someone. If that were the case, there would be no sports handicappers considered successful. Fletcher, as brilliant and hard-working as he was, was not really a pure handicapper per se. He was an arbitrage expert, and he was years ahead of his time.

  13. #6653
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    Is it difficult to put in context someone who creates socks then accuses others falsely of creating socks?
    I didn't say anything about socks. I was talking about your post and its connotation that having a losing year as an "AP" is either unusual or a huge strike against someone. If that were the case, there would be no sports handicappers considered successful. Fletcher, as brilliant and hard-working as he was, was not really a pure handicapper per se. He was an arbitrage expert, and he was years ahead of his time.
    In case I wasn't clear, as someone who has been publicly monitored or in public competitions my whole life, I can't run from losing or pretend it didn't happen. The first year I was monitored in McCusker's "Tipsters or Gypsters?" I had a losing record. I kind of deserved it after having a ridiculously good record the previous year. Anyway, I lost my first season in the McCusker Report, and I had another losing year about five years later. I'm sure that I had maybe four losing records during my time monitored by McCusker. That's part of the real life gambling gig.

    In the Wise Guys Contest, which I was in for probably 30 years, I've had maybe two or three losing records, and those were of the 17-18-1 or 16-18 variety, so that's actually a testament to my consistency. The difference between the McCusker Report and the Wise Guys is that the McCusker Report was all of your plays and the Wise Guys is your best two each week.

    It goes without saying that winning all of the time is the stuff of dreams. Or possibly the stuff of ether with a stiff shot of Cuba Libre and a Corona chaser.

  14. #6654
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Does Coke have a real sugar option?
    Monet, just go to a Mexican market and pick up a bottle of Coca-Cola (you can verify the ingredients before purchase). The Mexican markets all carry Coca-Cola with sugar.

  15. #6655
    I think it's evident that Shackleford is backing MDawg in virtually all frictions over at WoV. Shackleford has pretty much sold out the raison d'etre of the site. He just suspended terapined in the midst of an interesting travel thread, and then suspended MrV for a storyline.

    So what I suggest, my final suggestion on this, is simply team up and start your own forum where obvious fantasy gambling narratives aren't allowed. It doesn't cost much money to buy a decent name and get a website up and running. I'm sure if a dozen or so of you shell out a few bucks apiece, you could have a real gambling forum with minimal nonsense. Long-term, it would be worth it, as some folks burn too much energy addressing nonsense here and at WoV, and frankly, if site owners are going to value fantasy over experience, then those owners should be left with forums full of fantasy. I'm sure Axelwolf, mickey, kewlj, and others would benefit from a forum insulated from junk gambling.

    Anyway, something to think about. You could put together some private meet-and-greet in Las Vegas and lay ground rules like a private club. Time is money, guys, and too much time is being spent on nonsense.

    I sort of get the refusal to back down from MDawg. It is insulting for someone to walk in and tout some idiosyncratic systems voodoo and flood sites with non-expertise, sending the actual expertise into the background. For those of us who work with the realities of math, it's pretty frustrating when non-math starts overwhelming public discourse.

    Ditch VCT and WoV and start up your own forum. Not that hard. Not that expensive. No junk. It'll save you time in the long run, and time is all we got. Let the forum owners, as the great poet said, wallow in the mire.

  16. #6656
    Your right about Rusty Schakleford, he was probably having a bad day again, after coming back from one of his dozen or so "trips" he takes each year... On the other hand, stop complaining about VCT Comrade, things are just fine over here.

  17. #6657
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    I think it's evident that Shackleford is backing MDawg in virtually all frictions over at WoV. Shackleford has pretty much sold out the raison d'etre of the site. He just suspended terapined in the midst of an interesting travel thread, and then suspended MrV for a storyline.

    So what I suggest, my final suggestion on this, is simply team up and start your own forum where obvious fantasy gambling narratives aren't allowed. It doesn't cost much money to buy a decent name and get a website up and running. I'm sure if a dozen or so of you shell out a few bucks apiece, you could have a real gambling forum with minimal nonsense. Long-term, it would be worth it, as some folks burn too much energy addressing nonsense here and at WoV, and frankly, if site owners are going to value fantasy over experience, then those owners should be left with forums full of fantasy. I'm sure Axelwolf, mickey, kewlj, and others would benefit from a forum insulated from junk gambling.

    Anyway, something to think about. You could put together some private meet-and-greet in Las Vegas and lay ground rules like a private club. Time is money, guys, and too much time is being spent on nonsense.

    I sort of get the refusal to back down from MDawg. It is insulting for someone to walk in and tout some idiosyncratic systems voodoo and flood sites with non-expertise, sending the actual expertise into the background. For those of us who work with the realities of math, it's pretty frustrating when non-math starts overwhelming public discourse.

    Ditch VCT and WoV and start up your own forum. Not that hard. Not that expensive. No junk. It'll save you time in the long run, and time is all we got. Let the forum owners, as the great poet said, wallow in the mire.
    VCT is the forum that should be used. It already exists. If people can't see that WoV is a joke then there is no help for them. There really should be no advantage play forum as there is no advantage to having something like that, which is public. But a generic gambling forum is fine.

  18. #6658
    Nobody anywhere on WoV or VCT ever once gave a flying fuck about tipsters and gypsters and wise guys contests.

  19. #6659
    Originally Posted by mcap View Post
    Nobody anywhere on WoV or VCT ever once gave a flying fuck about tipsters and gypsters and wise guys contests.
    Tipster = Rat
    Gypster = Con Man
    Wise Guy = Murderer

  20. #6660
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    Monet, just go to a Mexican market and pick up a bottle of Coca-Cola (you can verify the ingredients before purchase). The Mexican markets all carry Coca-Cola with sugar.
    Thanks!
    I heard about this but also heard they had/have some Quality Control issues.
    Not sure if that is true.
    Sometimes I buy Kosher and they have Coke made from real sugar.
    I heard that if you can find it, the Canadian version is made of real sugar too.

    IMO Coke tastes far better than Pepsi.
    I miss that whole Pepsi Challenge of the 80s.
    I read that Coke doesn't want to mess with the formula ever again.
    Below is a quote from a post I read about it.
    Funny how the poster made the analogy of a Gay Pride Parade at Mecca lol...

    https://www.quora.com/Why-doesnt-the...rove-the-taste

    There is no improving the taste of Coca-Cola.
    That’s not my opinion, that’s bitterly learned fact for the company.
    The last time try tried to change the flavor of the main brand of Coke resulted in a sh*tstorm of epic proportion.
    They wouldn’t have had a worse PR nightmare had they chosen to flavor all their drinks with rat poison instead.
    The outrage was comparable to what you’d get if you’d hold a Gay Pride in Mecca with giant gay representations of the Prophet.
    They very hastily reintroduced Coca Cola classic with the original formulation and all Coke executives then and since have been required to take a formal oath never again to take such risks with the formulation of the main Coke brand.

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