ME, MYSELF, and KEWLJ

[blackhole]

It has now become obvious that Kewlj is willing to take any abuse, as long the topic remains about him. He needs attention regardless how much self-dignity it’ll cost him. He’s proven that over the years at every gambling forum he ever was a member of.

Who in their right mind would take the amount of abuse this fool has taken not just here, but wherever he posted and is now banned or still able to post? The abuse is ruthless. No matter what is said even if it occasionally touches on Black-Jack (rare lately) he will write essays and argue with anyone, AP’s or not. When challenged he’ll just make shit up as he goes along thinking that’s how things should work without knowing if what he's saying is how it really is. It only has to sound good.

I doubt this idea could work here simply because to many members enjoy the entertainment that comes with his abuse. Yet, I think it’s worth the effort to put an end to him. Where would he be without our attacks? No one in their right mind cares about his Black-Jack bullshit fantasies. It's all a big joke to everyone that knows anything about gambling.

So, I suggest we all totally never respond to anything Kewlj prints. Also never respond to anything his cult members mention or address about him. They will definitely attempt to lure us in. They enjoy the abuse as much as we do which opens the door for their clever one-liners. Which by the way is their only reason for being here in the first place. Can anyone prove otherwise? Of course, the cult will try and make certain this don’t happen, but their one liners won’t hold up for too long.

Mission we know could post enough to fill a complete thread with stupid and meaningless posts alone, but he too will eventually get bored talking to Kewlj and the cult members without our inputs.

I promise to totally ignore this fool regardless if I even bite through my tongue. Let’s give it a go and I’ll lead by example.

C’mon members, you know who you are and it’s time we put the brakes on Cum-Breath.

[MisterV]

You cannot prove he hasn't accomplished what he claims.

I don't need for him or anyone to provide "proof:" c'mon, this is an internet forum, not a court of law.

It's a question of credibility.

Let's vote:

[Rob.Singer]

You cannot prove he hasn't accomplished what he claims.

I don't need for him or anyone to provide "proof:" c'mon, this is an internet forum, not a court of law.

It's a question of credibility.

Let's vote:

Kew and his silly claims all boil down to one sure thing: he readily and foolishly claims others are making false claims--when no proof of any kind has ever been provided by either side. Yet whenever it's come time for him or anyone to prove or disprove his gambling claims, he readily proclaims everyone who doesn't believe him is lying. And again, no proof has ever been presented by either side.

Here's the ultimate summarization of his overall intent on forums, and how it all came to be. Kew is someone enthralled by the game of blackjack. When he discovered it he felt right away that he could "make a living" with it--as paltry as that may be. So as he studied and read books and forums about it over the years while playing the game at very low levels where winning or losing wasn't much of an issue, he became a verbal strategy-parrot of the famous names and chose internet gaming forums to create a higher level player who wins every year.....complete with the tales of occasional large losses that, thank God, are ALWAYS changed into wins after the next trip or two. Phew!! Readers always can easily rest after these guaranteed recoveries!

The one thing kew never planned for was, because he constantly bloviates and pontificates about his BJ "prowess", he has been lax on efforts to keep all his concocted lies straight. He knows Moses has got his number and he says away from talking about him, but in recent years quite a few critics of his fantasy have challenged him. His response? Well, starting with his cowardly refusal to meet up with Alan to prove his two table counting "skill", he has stuck with his strategy of calling everybody else a liar while labeling his one or two "supporters" as expert gamblers. Yes, you may have a good bellylaugh here.

Throughout this entire soap opera, we've seen kew get rattled over and over and over again. His first tell is looong rambling and sometimes incoherent reply posts, where he just can never scratch that "set the record straight" itch to any satisfaction level. He then exposes more debate inexperience by tossing vulgarities at some really irritating critics. And finally, when mired within incredible pits of disbelief, he always summons his teddy bear supporters, who try in vain to help him out of the pickle he got himself into.

Sit back and enjoy!

[kewlJ]

There is something missing from Rob's post above...something very key and that is MATH. And that is because Rob and in fairness a few others have never understood the importants of the math involved. It is the difference maker in every aspect of his claims. It is the difference in my claims. It is the difference in advantage play.

Let's start with "he readily and foolishly claims others are making false claims": If someone makes a claim, whatever claim and it is supported by the math, meaning they can show how they are winning what they claim to be winning, by math, by some technique that makes their play +EV, Then I rarely challenge anything, even if I strongly doubt what they are saying for other reasons, like they don't seem to have the knowledge necessary. If the math works....I let it go. Let people decide for themselves based on credibility, which includes if the person has demonstrated adequate knowledge.

So when a guy claims he is winning by using a progressive betting system as Rob did, that is a epic fail in regards to the math. Progressive betting system, actually no betting system can turn a -EV game into a +EV or winning game. So that is the big initial mathematical fail. Secondary mathematics fails were stop limits and "special plays". These are voodoo concepts. They do not change the math or a game from -EV to +EV. As a matter of fact "special players" change the game the wrong way. Less optimal or more -EV if you will.

Mdawgs claims similarly, he has not shown anything he is doing to change the game to +EV (and I have repeatedly asked).

So lets move on to my play. My play is +EV. I have explained exactly what I do to be playing a +EV game. EXACTLY! And that is why yes, every losing period has recovery at some point. It isn't the next day, or next week as Rob falsely claims. Sometimes it is even months. But because the play is +EV, eventually my results will rebound and then go on to higher heights. THAT IS THE MATH.

You people continue to describe people as my supporters. No one is really supporting me. They are advantage players that understand and live by the math, trying to tell you that is what it is about, the math. And some of those AP's happen to be top notch successful AP's. Of course you few detratctors, Singer, Blackhole, I guess now BoSox, Mdawg have no idea about the math so you dismiss these people. BoSox, knows the math, his issue is different that the others. As a matter of fact, one of these guys everyone says is supporting me (he is not supporting me, he is supporting the math and calling out those who don't understand it in his own unique way. ) is a TOP table game AP. Someone BoSox I beleive has a great deal of respect for at least as a player.

So it is all about the math! That is what makes your claims fantasy and open to challenge Rob, and the difference bewteen my claims.

[kewlJ]

Now I guess I gotta talk about Moses. I don't think it is really fair since he is not a member here, but you 3 or 4 detractors have latched onto Moses and keep bringing him up as your "expert witness". Moses has no idea of what I do and the multi-deck shoe games that I play. He has clearly demonstrated that. Any expertise that he has narrowly involves single deck games that he plays. There is no comparison to the games or how you beat them. It is as different as a 50 yard sprinter vs a marathoner. So you guys holding him up as your expert witness, have zero and I mean ZERO idea what you are talking about.

I have never doubted that Moses has significant blackjack knowledge and I will even go as far as to say expertise in the single deck game. The game basically only available in Reno and I guess now only a handful of casinos in Reno according to Moses himself. So what he does, leaning heavily on higher counts and specialty counts, like a cloumn count is almost a throwback to what math guys and players were doing in the 1980. But it is not how you beat todays 6 and 8 deck shoe games that are everywhere and that I mostly play.

So while Moses math works, for his very unique circumastances, it does not work anywhere else. But again it did work for what he is/was doing. That is why I never called him out even though I didn't believe he was being truthful about what he earned and making a living. The math worked, but the limits did not. A player can't play those limits in Reno day after day for 10 years. That is not what Reno is. I know because I play Reno a couple times a year for a few days at a time. That is all a player can get decent money down, maybe a long weekend a couple times a year.

So I beleived Moses Math, just not his limits and I kept that to myself for a long time. And I will be honest, Moses attacking me and challenging me and my math that works for years, and escalating to all his threats and all that nonsense, is why I did finally say what I thought.....that he isn't playing the limits and making the money he claimed. Moses is the one case it isn't about the math....his math works....it is about the limits. A player just can't play that kind of money in Reno regularly. It is almost the same problem I had in Atlantic City. Too few casinos, too small a rotation. They are just not going to let it happen day after day.

[Ozzy]

Now I guess I gotta talk about Moses. I don't think it is really fair since he is not a member here, but you 3 or 4 detractors have latched onto Moses and keep bringing him up as your "expert witness". Moses has no idea of what I do and the multi-deck shoe games that I play. He has clearly demonstrated that. Any expertise that he has narrowly involves single deck games that he plays. There is no comparison to the games or how you beat them. It is as different as a 50 yard sprinter vs a marathoner. So you guys holding him up as your expert witness, have zero and I mean ZERO idea what you are talking about.

I have never doubted that Moses has significant blackjack knowledge and I will even go as far as to say expertise in the single deck game. The game basically only available in Reno and I guess now only a handful of casinos in Reno according to Moses himself. So what he does, leaning heavily on higher counts and specialty counts, like a cloumn count is almost a throwback to what math guys and players were doing in the 1980. But it is not how you beat todays 6 and 8 deck shoe games that are everywhere and that I mostly play.

So while Moses math works, for his very unique circumastances, it does not work anywhere else. But again it did work for what he is/was doing. That is why I never called him out even though I didn't believe he was being truthful about what he earned and making a living. The math worked, but the limits did not. A player can't play those limits in Reno day after day for 10 years. That is not what Reno is. I know because I play Reno a couple times a year for a few days at a time. That is all a player can get decent money down, maybe a long weekend a couple times a year.

So I beleived Moses Math, just not his limits and I kept that to myself for a long time. And I will be honest, Moses attacking me and challenging me and my math that works for years, and escalating to all his threats and all that nonsense, is why I did finally say what I thought.....that he isn't playing the limits and making the money he claimed. Moses is the one case it isn't about the math....his math works....it is about the limits. A player just can't play that kind of money in Reno regularly. It is almost the same problem I had in Atlantic City. Too few casinos, too small a rotation. They are just not going to let it happen day after day.

I wonder why Moses is not a member here, because of YOU Kew.

[kewlJ]

I wonder why Moses is not a member here, because of YOU Kew.

I think I have been extremely fair with Moses, still trying to engage in respectful dialouge, even after everything that has occured. At WoV when he started a thread saying he was thinking of relocating to Las vegas, I shared everything I could, short of printing my exact rotation.

I have had some good and productive conversations with Moses at WoV, even learned a few things. But that is because he knows he can't get away with the nasty attacks there.

When Druff asked me about allowing moses back, I would have said fine, even lobbied for it, if moses had shown one ounce of regret, remores for the physical threats and threatening to dox a fellow AP (take and circulate my picture throughout Las vegas casinos). But he hasn't. He doesn't have to like me, few on these foums do, but he should acknowledge that some of his behavior was way out of line.

Anyway last I heard moses said he had no desire to come back here. It is only you ozzy. You want the Jerry Spinger show and all that kind of drama to pop up at every chance. THAT is your interest in having moses back.

[blackhole]

C’mon Rob. See what you did? Opened the door for 3 essays and maybe more to come.

Of course you could do whatever you dam well please.

[Mission146]

You started the thread, dipshit.

[kewlJ]

I have banned Moses for making threats against various users here -- some public, some private.

Interestingly, I got multiple complaints about him from parties who don't normally like one another, making it clear that this wasn't some conspiracy for people to get together and make phony complaints about him.

I don't know Moses, and he did make some good posts during his time here, but he has acted quite unstable lately, and has alarmed a lot of the userbase with his aggressive and threatening behavior.

Ozzy, I am posting the first 3 lines of Dan Druffs anouncement, to help with your faulty memory. "threats against various users, some public some private".


"multiple complaints about him from parties who don't normally like one another,"

"but he has acted quite unstable lately, and has alarmed a lot of the userbase with his aggressive and threatening behavior."

It seems there were a lot more complaints than just me. Moses behaviou at that time seemed like a person who was off their meds and I don't say that as a bust or belittlement. If you remember he was talking about all sorts of different personalities, Tator, a homeless guys that shared his phone (moses now posts as tator on another forum). Old man Lou. After being banned he continues posting as his girlfriend, UFXC or something like that. These didn't seem like sockpuppets, they really seemed like a person dealing with multiple personalities.

So maybe he needs to apologize to more than just me, if he was threatening others as well, "privately and publicly". But ultimately, if Dan Druff feels Moses can contribute and be an asset to the forum, his reinstatement would happen regardless of what I say.

[blackhole]

Mission we know could post enough to fill a complete thread with stupid and meaningless posts alone,

[kewlJ]

You started the thread, dipshit.

It looks like Blackhole's new strategy is quoting his own posts, which feels an aweful lot like a guy sitting in the nut house talking to himself.

[Ozzy]

I wonder why Moses is not a member here, because of YOU Kew.

I think I have been extremely fair with Moses, still trying to engage in respectful dialouge, even after everything that has occured. At WoV when he started a thread saying he was thinking of relocating to Las vegas, I shared everything I could, short of printing my exact rotation.

I have had some good and productive conversations with Moses at WoV, even learned a few things. But that is because he knows he can't get away with the nasty attacks there.

When Druff asked me about allowing moses back, I would have said fine, even lobbied for it, if moses had shown one ounce of regret, remores for the physical threats and threatening to dox a fellow AP (take and circulate my picture throughout Las vegas casinos). But he hasn't. He doesn't have to like me, few on these foums do, but he should acknowledge that some of his behavior was way out of line.

Anyway last I heard moses said he had no desire to come back here. It is only you ozzy. You want the Jerry Spinger show and all that kind of drama to pop up at every chance. THAT is your interest in having moses back.

Yes Moses is a good addition to this forum, the more the merrier. This place should be blowing manboys house out of the water, if only their weren't so many thin skin fairies that are scared to post, in the zoo known as VCT

[mickeycrimm]

It has now become obvious that Kewlj is willing to take any abuse, as long the topic remains about him. He needs attention regardless how much self-dignity it’ll cost him. He’s proven that over the years at every gambling forum he ever was a member of.

Who in their right mind would take the amount of abuse this fool has taken not just here, but wherever he posted and is now banned or still able to post? The abuse is ruthless. No matter what is said even if it occasionally touches on Black-Jack (rare lately) he will write essays and argue with anyone, AP’s or not. When challenged he’ll just make shit up as he goes along thinking that’s how things should work without knowing if what he's saying is how it really is. It only has to sound good.

I doubt this idea could work here simply because to many members enjoy the entertainment that comes with his abuse. Yet, I think it’s worth the effort to put an end to him. Where would he be without our attacks? No one in their right mind cares about his Black-Jack bullshit fantasies. It's all a big joke to everyone that knows anything about gambling.

So, I suggest we all totally never respond to anything Kewlj prints. Also never respond to anything his cult members mention or address about him. They will definitely attempt to lure us in. They enjoy the abuse as much as we do which opens the door for their clever one-liners. Which by the way is their only reason for being here in the first place. Can anyone prove otherwise? Of course, the cult will try and make certain this don’t happen, but their one liners won’t hold up for too long.

Mission we know could post enough to fill a complete thread with stupid and meaningless posts alone, but he too will eventually get bored talking to Kewlj and the cult members without our inputs.

I promise to totally ignore this fool regardless if I even bite through my tongue. Let’s give it a go and I’ll lead by example.

C’mon members, you know who you are and it’s time we put the brakes on Cum-Breath.

You mean you are going to quit whining and crying about KJ? Say it ain’t so, Blackhoser. Say it ain’t so. It’s fun watching a loser like you you snivel.

[BoSox]

Who's the guy over at WOV that seems to be always suspended over there and is always bitching about anyone who brings up his name in a post while in suspension? Only to come to this site and do the exact same type of bullshit here. Please leave Moses out of this malarky.

[blackhole]

You mean you are going to quit whining and crying about KJ? Say it ain’t so, Blackhoser. Say it ain’t so. It’s fun watching a loser like you you snivel.

Shouldn't you be busy rolling quarters and making your rounds on recycle day loading up your Sanford and Son pick-up?

[kewlJ]

Shouldn't you be busy rolling quarters and making your rounds on recycle day loading up your Sanford and Son pick-up?

See, this post exemplifies blackhole's agenda, total dishonesty and complete lack of credibility. He knows what he just wrote is not even close to representative of mickeycrimm's advantage play activities. Mickey has shared some of what he does, and his knowledge of the math involved and different plays is second to none. Does he play some low limit, smaller plays. Yes he told us that. And those plays can add up to hundred and thousadnd of dollars a day. To even write the things blackhole writes, voids him of any credibilty, which really he forfieted long ago.

The fact is this is an anti-AP guy (for whatever reason) and angry and bitter with players that make any money. He proves that almost everyday with his posts and agenda to discredit any AP. I am just one of many on that list, as is mickey and anyone that claims to have had any success at the casinos. THAT is the big thing. This guy, blackhole is a self admitted, loser at the casinos, likely degenerate gambler, and he is bitter as hell with anyone who isn't.

[Rob.Singer]

C'mon kew. You claim I'm "anti-AP all the time too and you've been wrong all the time. I appreciate what axel does; I appreciate what mickey does; and I've probably put down the most lucrative AP play ever myself. I even appreciate your studied knowledge of blackjack AP. I just don't believe your collar actually matches your cuffs in the same manner the other guys match up.

That's all it is kew. Why do you let this stuff bother you so much....why do you care what a few people believe about you when no one has ever proven anything either way? Generally, only spoofers get as unravelled as you do when it comes down to it.

C'mon man! You're taking all the mystery out of it.

[kewlJ]

C'mon kew. You claim I'm "anti-AP all the time too and you've been wrong all the time. I appreciate what axel does; I appreciate what mickey does; and I've probably put down the most lucrative AP play ever myself. I even appreciate your studied knowledge of blackjack AP. I just don't believe your collar actually matches your cuffs in the same manner the other guys match up.

That's all it is kew. Why do you let this stuff bother you so much....why do you care what a few people believe about you when no one has ever proven anything either way? Generally, only spoofers get as unravelled as you do when it comes down to it.

C'mon man! You're taking all the mystery out of it.

Let me just see if I have this straight Rob? You are the guy so bothered by people not believing any of his fantasy claims, that he first made up a phony bill of sales for an RV, a bill of sales with no dealership letterhead and the same handwriting for seller and buyers and then when that failed, do I have to even say it again....he drove to an RV dealership, pretending to be a perspective buyer, climbed in the RV, right there on the dealership showrrom lot and took pictures of himself, trying to convince people he owned it.

So THAT guy is lecturing me about being so bothered what other people think? Fucking hilarious.

For the record, I have never taken pictures of piles of chips (my chip inventory), piles of cash (my bankroll), my home, my condo, anything....because I really don't care what people think. Now yes, I do care a bit about the lies people make up. I am proud of what I do, and what I have accomplished and I won't have people like you and blackhole, make up complete lies, without correcting the record.

But it is just freaking hilarious that you have the balls to call me unravelled with the shit you have pulled.

[kewlJ]

And don't you dare compare yourself to mickeycrimm or Axelwolf. They can tell you exactly what they do that makes their different plays +EV and enables them to show a profit. Axelwolf will say he doesn't share that and he usually doesn't, but he could for any play if he wanted to.

All you can give us is progressive betting, stop limits (stop when you are ahead) and special (even less optimal) plays, none of which turns anything +EV or explains how you can win. You are exactly the same as some others in that regard.

Explaining what it is that enables your play to be +EV and a long-term winner, is the low bar. You have to clear that bar before anyone can even consider your credibility based on other things you say. And you have never cleared that bar.