Mdawg exposed. The fantasy crumbles.

[smurgerburger]

So you announce to the world that you have an MGM host that will (illegally AFAIK) leak you the w/l of another player (a whale at that) just so you can prove to the world the fraudulence of some internet fraud that everyone remotely sharp recognizes as a fraud.

Questionable.

[BoSox]

So you announce to the world that you have an MGM host that will (illegally AFAIK) leak you the w/l of another player (a whale at that) just so you can prove to the world the fraudulence of some internet fraud that everyone remotely sharp recognizes as a fraud.

Questionable.

! Well said.

[redietz]

So you announce to the world that you have an MGM host that will (illegally AFAIK) leak you the w/l of another player (a whale at that) just so you can prove to the world the fraudulence of some internet fraud that everyone remotely sharp recognizes as a fraud.

Questionable.

! Well said.

A lot of assumptions being made here by people not really providing any math to back them up. When you talk about "everyone remotely sharp," what percent of the population are you talking about? Let's pin it down. How many U.S. civilians reading MDawg's narratives on WoV would recognize them as a fraud without people pushing back and debunking him?

I have an estimate. So let's see what other people estimate.

I bring this up because obviously the reality sports betting show I linked previously made it to television because enough people bought the storyline as television network decision-makers, followed by enough people buying the story as civilians watching it, followed by advertisers placing ads on it. And yet, from my point of view, "everyone remotely sharp" should have known it was a fraud.

[unJon]

So you announce to the world that you have an MGM host that will (illegally AFAIK) leak you the w/l of another player (a whale at that) just so you can prove to the world the fraudulence of some internet fraud that everyone remotely sharp recognizes as a fraud.

Questionable.

! Well said.

A lot of assumptions being made here by people not really providing any math to back them up. When you talk about "everyone remotely sharp," what percent of the population are you talking about? Let's pin it down. How many U.S. civilians reading MDawg's narratives on WoV would recognize them as a fraud without people pushing back and debunking him?

I have an estimate. So let's see what other people estimate.

I bring this up because obviously the reality sports betting show I linked previously made it to television because enough people bought the storyline as television network decision-makers, followed by enough people buying the story as civilians watching it, followed by advertisers placing ads on it. And yet, from my point of view, "everyone remotely sharp" should have known it was a fraud.

That’s actually only one assumption, not “a lot of assumptions.” And the least interesting point in the post.

My working hypothesis is that KJ never had a host that was going to give him the goods. If he did, he would have not preannounced it, making is much less likely to occur. Surely high roller MDawg will bring it up to his host and lean on the legal ramifications. Only makes sense if it was a bluff by KJ. But maybe I’m giving him too much credit?

At any rate, KJ, you have a hypothesis, not a proof at this point.

[Ozzy]

! Well said.

A lot of assumptions being made here by people not really providing any math to back them up. When you talk about "everyone remotely sharp," what percent of the population are you talking about? Let's pin it down. How many U.S. civilians reading MDawg's narratives on WoV would recognize them as a fraud without people pushing back and debunking him?

I have an estimate. So let's see what other people estimate.

I bring this up because obviously the reality sports betting show I linked previously made it to television because enough people bought the storyline as television network decision-makers, followed by enough people buying the story as civilians watching it, followed by advertisers placing ads on it. And yet, from my point of view, "everyone remotely sharp" should have known it was a fraud.

That’s actually only one assumption, not “a lot of assumptions.” And the least interesting point in the post.

My working hypothesis is that KJ never had a host that was going to give him the goods. If he did, he would have not preannounced it, making is much less likely to occur. Surely high roller MDawg will bring it up to his host and lean on the legal ramifications. Only makes sense if it was a bluff by KJ. But maybe I’m giving him too much credit?

At any rate, KJ, you have a hypothesis, not a proof at this point.

The Unkool1 has bluffed several times over the years. Highly likely this time around.

[kewlJ]

You guys can paint me to be the bad guy here, but the fact is I am not the one that peddled this completely absurd, fictional claim on 4 different forums for the last 7 months, pressuring forum moderators to suspend anyone challenging this math defying claim. I am not the one that started lying about me and anyone else that challenged this fictional nonsense, to the point of starting a thread about each person and with each persons name on it, countering with lies about every one of these people that dared challenge this fantasy reality.

When Mdawg started repeating lies about me on multiple forums, I warned him, that I would find and share the truth. He continued to repeat a lie probably 100 times. So I am absolutely within my right to debunk his bullshit claims that he has peddled for 7 months by any means necessary.

The further fact is that once the sale of Cosmo was announced, that opportunity was available or would become available to me. At that point Mdawg and the "great escalating adventure" were doomed, as his 7 months of reported wins, would not match casino records. His first move was probably to try to get his host to alter his casino records. He was probably surprised when no host would agree to that illegal act which would constitute fraud. With no other options, he had to quickly make his claims match the official records. And thus he magically lost all of his winnings from the last 7 months with an announced massive 3 day loss. Winnings that were never real.

Y'all can surmise whether I was bluffing or not, but I don't bluff. I am NOT a poker player. The opportunity presented itself and I took it and Mdawg hung himself (as these guys always do) attempting to backtrack and cover up. And yes, because he lied about me, over and over, and over, when I warned him not to, I take some pleasure in dismantling this fantasy that he spent 7 months assembling, lie by lie (brick by brick).

A house of cards is what it was. The guy is simply a higher end losing player, that gets some high end comps fitting for his loses. He is a NOT James Bond character. He is NOT the greatest player ever that he claims dealers, pit and hosts all repeatedly told him. He is a NOT even a winning player. He IS a losing degenerate gambler, with disposable money to burn. Not quite as good a fairytale is it?

[kewlJ]

Now I am done with this, at least for the moment. I may feel the need to revisit and debunk the blackjack portion of the fairytale in the future, but for now I am satisfied that I have done my part to expose this fairytale that has been peddled for 7 months.

Anyone still believing this douchbag and blaming and painting me as the bad guy are the same people still believing Singer owned a Newell purchased from the double up bug claim that he stole. I guess you people want or need to believe in some alternative, fantasy reality.

[redietz]

If you didn't know this was what the denouement would look like, then you need to go back to wizardry school. I wonder about those folks who were apologists for this nonsense, saying things like, "Well, it's not completely impossible if he's using a progression system," and darkoz with his theories on super secret baccarat techniques. That kind of rhetoric was just, from a practical standpoint, brain dead.

Ockham's Razor, folks. If somebody claims he's won 50 of 52 baccarat sessions, and you buy it, and you're some of the top posters on a site called Wizard of Vegas, well, your diplomas are revoked. Time to go back to Hogwarts.

Or, as Dandy Don used to sing, "Turn out the lights. The party's over. They say that all good things must end."

[unJon]

And yet had KJ the ability to get the goods and the self control to not preannounce it. Then we could have truly had a denouement. But I guess people that are so quick to spot the Dunning-Kruger Effect in others are slow at spotting the confirmation bias in themselves.

[kewlJ]

So Shackleford unhid the Mdawg adventure thread. No real surprise as Mdawg has been lobbying for that for a while. It was moved to the betting system section and hidden for a reason. And more importantly it was done so as part of an agreement with me. The thread being hidden is what I supposedly got out of the agreement. So I consider unhiding the thread as Shackleford breaking his word to me.....not that that is any surprise.

On top of that Shackleford's statement announcing the return of the thread, praises Mdawg for his honesty in "confessing" (Shackleford's word) that he has not won any money playing baccarat over the last 7 months. So Mdawg lies daily for 7 months, then tells the truth that he is not a winning player and Shackleford heaps praise on him. Give me a break! Shackleford has proven to be as dishonest as Mdawg.

[MaxPen]

Now I am done with this, at least for the moment. I may feel the need to revisit and debunk the blackjack portion of the fairytale in the future, but for now I am satisfied that I have done my part to expose this fairytale that has been peddled for 7 months.

Anyone still believing this douchbag and blaming and painting me as the bad guy are the same people still believing Singer owned a Newell purchased from the double up bug claim that he stole. I guess you people want or need to believe in some alternative, fantasy reality.

Good Job

[redietz]

And yet had KJ the ability to get the goods and the self control to not preannounce it. Then we could have truly had a denouement. But I guess people that are so quick to spot the Dunning-Kruger Effect in others are slow at spotting the confirmation bias in themselves.

Well, that is a good question. I'm not so much interested in Mdawg's response to things as to Shackleford's.

For example, if kewlJ just did an ninja assassin thing and unveiled the MDawg win/loss statement without warning, I'm guessing that the likely response from both MDawg and Shackleford would have been that it wasn't MDawg. Nobody except Shackleford theoretically would know if the person kewlJ unveiled was indeed MDawg, but Shackleford would know and be responsible for the deception in perpetuity. So that would have been interesting.

I think it's hilarious that MDawg is being praised for his "honesty" after years , literally, of bullshitting with impunity on four different sites and starting up threads regarding anyone who called him on it.

KewlJ had both MDawg and Shackleford by the scrotum, and this was the only face-saving outcome for both of them. And really, it doesn't save any face at all. It just ends the fantasy, which is a good thing.

I can see kewlJ preferring this outcome to some ninja reveal, as there is some satisfaction to watching MDawg hang himself with his own petard rather than being hung by kewlJ's hand.

Reminds me of an old proverb. There are three kinds of assassins. One enters your tent at night, lights a candle, and announces he's going to kill you. The second enters your tent at night, and wakes you just before his blade slices your throat. The third enters your tent at night, cuts your throat as you sleep, and leaves without saying a word. Which are you?

By the way, I have PM'ed Mdawg on various forums over the last year, telling him to just can the winner/winner/chicken dinner act and just do his high roller reports. I was straight forward with him and reasonably respectful. I said the same things in those PMs that kewlJ was saying in public posts. My best guess is MDawg's gambling fervency is frowned upon by his family, and this started as a public diary to counter any criticism. And then, as things do, they tend to escalate (kewlJ's observation) from the marginally ridiculous to full-out fantasy nonsense.

P.S. The great thing about a lifetime of relatively high stakes sports gambling is that you pretty much master the whole Dunning-Kruger and confirmation bias issues...or you go broke pretty fast. I saw a TED talk a couple of years ago featuring a psychologist who interviewed and analyzed professional gamblers. The one edge they had on civilians...they knew what they didn't know.

[kewlJ]

Now I am done with this, at least for the moment. I may feel the need to revisit and debunk the blackjack portion of the fairytale in the future, but for now I am satisfied that I have done my part to expose this fairytale that has been peddled for 7 months.

Anyone still believing this douchbag and blaming and painting me as the bad guy are the same people still believing Singer owned a Newell purchased from the double up bug claim that he stole. I guess you people want or need to believe in some alternative, fantasy reality.

Good Job

I said "for the moment" MaxPen. That moment passed when Shackleford broke his word to me and continues to be part of the scam.

[coach belly]

two weeks ago after Cosmo was sold, I announced that I would soon be able to get a hold of this Mdawg persons records and we would just see if reality matched the Mdawg fantasy claims

You are to be commended, kewlJ. Without you revealing that you knew who MDawg is, and would have his Cosmos records, none of this would have happened.

Thank you Redietz. I believe you are correct.

Is the current fantasy that, faced with tewlj's eventual receipt and posting of MDawg's Baccarat playing records from the Cosmopolitan, MDawg panicked and reported massive baccarat losses, to reconcile his reporting with what those Cosmo records will show?

Is that the gist of it?

And what are his Cosmo records expected to show? Massive wins, massive losses, or approximate break-even play?

This will be interesting to find out...how soon do you expect to receive and post them, mr tewlj?

And what of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he's reported winning at Blackjack?

MDawg says he counts cards, shuffle tracks, hole cards if he can...all of those things.

Do MDawg's winning Blackjack claims pass muster, because they are supported by the math?

Are his Cosmo Blackjack records expected to reveal math-defying losses?

It appears that the Adventures of MDawg haven't ended...they continue, unhidden, at WOV.

What of future success at Blackjack...does the math guarantee that he will win?

We'll find out, and the thread will be easy for all readers to find...newbies and veterans alike.

And it looks like we all have tewlj to thank for that.

What an ironic turn of events.

[Advantageplay]

Another outrageous claim I had forget about is his tie claim. This one is just as absurd, My real guess is that he met with wizard and wizard told him the claims are running the forum so let’s just make this statement that you are about even and it will put it all to bed

[kewlJ]

Coach belly, you are so fucking stupid. When I will have access to the information is not my call. That has to do with when a 5.6 billion dollar sale closes. I have read early next year, although I have been told MGM may have access to some of that data before the official close.

However that is completely irrelevant now. Redietz seems to be the only one that understands what occurred. Had I waited until I had access to the information, even if I was able to post documentation, that documentation would have been called into question. Everything can be faked or photoshopped now. Didn't we not too long ago see a guy post a picture of a phony bill of sale with all signatures in the same handwriting?

So my announcing that I would have access to this info at some point in the future, caused Mdawg to panic and do what he needed to do to make his claim totals match the info that would be coming out. He panicked and exposed himself. I figured he would do so, not exactly this way, but by posting phony documentation himself. This was even better!

And Shackleford just confirmed that Mdawg was lying all along by praising him for confessing About his baccarat play over the entirety of his trip (7 months). Confessing! That means all those claims were a lie. And Shackleford is rewarding those 7 months of lying by allowing a 625 page thread with about a thousand posts of now admitted lies to be unhidden where it will be the top thread representing WoV. Beautiful. Might as well bring Singer and Jerry Logan's threads full of lies back and promote them.

[kewlJ]

Now as for the blackjack claims smelly belly. While Mdawg has talked about card counting, shuffle tracking and other blackjack advantage play in the past concerning his blackjack play from years ago, he has not stated he is doing any of this with his current play. I know because I have repeatedly asked and he refused to answer.

If he IS claiming any of these advantage plays, that makes his blackjack claims absolutely ridiculous. Las Vegas is known as being sweaty with blackjack in regards to card counting and in particular double deck. A player has to work at being able to get some play in. No casino, least of all Cosmo, is going to allow a player to card count and spread what Mdawg claims. He might as well be claiming to flap his arms and fly around the world. That is how ridiculous the claim is. It is 18 y.o. in a row type ridiculous. Of course this from the same guy that claims to have won 60 hands in a row at blackjack, another claim since amended.

Come on people see the pattern here? Mdawg exposed himself on this one (as these frauds always do). I set him up and he jumped right in. But hey keep believing this lying PoS.

[Ozzy]

Jerry Logan's threads full of lies back and promote them.[/QUOTE]

JERRY JERRY JERRY JERRY !!!!

[coach belly]

When I will have access to the information is not my call.

You're the one who wrote that it will be "soon". How did you know that it would be soon?

So my announcing that I would have access to this info at some point in the future, caused Mdawg to panic and do what he needed to do to make his claim totals match the info that would be coming out.

That is complete nonsense, and it will continue to be regarded as nonsense until you post the Cosmo info.

even if I was able to post documentation, that documentation would have been called into question. Everything can be faked or photoshopped now.

Then why would he panic now, instead of questioning the documentation whenever you post it?

Does MDawg have some inside info on the closing timetable, that would cause him to panic?

I'll ask again...what are his Cosmo records expected to show? Massive wins, massive losses, or approximate break-even play?

[kewlJ]

That is complete nonsense, and it will continue to be regarded as nonsense until you post the Cosmo info.

Wizard has now CONFIRMED that Mdawgs results for the 7 months were a lie, when he said Mdawg "confessed". How stupid can you be? Don't answer....you are proving it.