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  1. #541
    Fucking Dirty Rat Boz hasn't posted around here very much since he sent his letters to executives at the Casino.
    It's getting old having to call him a Rat every post but that is what he is and that is my job for the time being.
    Careful Readers... Boz will Rat your Ass out to the Casino while he picks up Free Play for RS and the AW Root Beer Crew.
    Get to work Rat, working for your Wolf.

    And the Ditz thinks I have time to shop around for the best lines?
    If he really knew anything about Vegas Sports Books he would know that currently Circa has the best lines almost every game and every day.
    Nearly 10 to 20 points better than anywhere else.
    Oh, sure, sometimes William Hill lines are slightly better but Circa isn't Fucking around.
    They are serious about giving the Sports Bettor the best action.
    And I am not a Professional Sports Bettor.
    I'm not about to spend 3k per game every day in the Fucking Book.
    That's 10 to 30k every day spreading bets around town to at least three books keeping straight bets around 900 dollars.
    Fuck that Shit... I got shit to do.
    Like I got to walk the dog and or go bowling or Fucking Sleep for 12 hours.
    And my new job is making sure that everyone who reads VCT realizes that Boz is a Rat and he could Rat you out next!
    That's gonna take some of my valuable time and resources.

  2. #542
    You mean the 12 people that visit this place?

    Now post todays parlays you fat bastard!

    And I’ll save you some time and help you out.

    So get out there and make some bets!

  3. #543
    Nothing to do today, eh Boz?
    Who you gonna Rat on next, you Dirty Filthy Rat Bastard?
    At least Ozzy is going to have a good laugh as he reads through this thread this morning.
    But being a Rat Bastard like you, Boz, is no laughing matter.
    Last edited by monet; 04-25-2022 at 09:28 AM.

  4. #544
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Nothing to do today eh Boz.
    Who you gonna Rat on next you Dirty Filthy Rat Bastard?
    At least Ozzy is going to have a good laugh as he reads through this thread this morning.
    But being a Rat Bastard like you, Boz, is no laughing matter.
    Other than watching my investments drop again today because of the mess Biden has us in, not much to do.

    And reading about an overweight losing parlay gambler is funny as hell to me.

    Along with every post I make I’m educating others that I’m a rat. Just doing some community service for all the visitors here.

    So who you betting tonight? Flyers on a roll lately playing out the string but also playing back to back. Surely a sports betting degenerate like you can’t lay off that and will find a few baseball games to PARLAY it with.

  5. #545
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Nothing to do today eh Boz.
    Who you gonna Rat on next you Dirty Filthy Rat Bastard?
    At least Ozzy is going to have a good laugh as he reads through this thread this morning.
    But being a Rat Bastard like you, Boz, is no laughing matter.
    In general, Circa has the best numbers. When they opened, they made a real effort to have the most generous futures, also. They calmed down a bit, but are still the first stop or look. But here's the thing, Monet, in LV you can have phone and online accounts now. How hard is it to cross-reference numbers from phone and online accounts so you always get the best deal?

    William Hill is decent, but their futures have gone downhill. WestGate still isn't bad, but their opinions tend to be like my opinions, so that's no good. Surprisingly, Caesars isn't terrible. I don't know if that's by accident or design. You can really mess with Caesars by going in and asking them to explain their sports comp rates and how much you can bet with what card level. It's like a snipe hunt. They all pretend to know, but nobody does.

  6. #546
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    I have no problem with how AP's report grinding out profits. But does anyone really believe or expect to hear any of them say they are struggling to make their living at times when they truly are? They are going up against casinos. It happens. It's never all hearts and flowers.
    Come on Rob, I do this all the time. In 2020, I had the worse year I have had since I moved to Vegas. Working around the 3 month casino closure, I was in the red most of the year, barely pulling into the black 14k late in the year, but 70k below expectation. And I shared these frustrating experiences as I was going through that year.

    I have had 5 different losing periods that lasted 4-6 months. (usually an initial big downturn and slow recovery). I have shared these each time as I have gone through them right along with the emotions and frustration and it is very frustrating to play almost daily with an advantage and feel like you are stuck in the mud, not going anywhere.

    Even last year, a very good year for me, I shared in detail a very rough weekend I experienced up in Reno, losing 11k. That got me a lot of attacks by your buddies at GF's, that I didn't know what I was doing, even though the year ended up one of my best.

    I have shared my experiences, the good and the bad, the winning and losing on whatever forum I have been on, since I moved to Vegas over 12 years ago. Now it is true that most AP's don't share as I do. I wish they would. I think other players could benefit from that.

  7. #547
    Boz and Monet: I am not familiar with this letter writing accusation. Either of you care to explain your side?

  8. #548
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Boz and Monet: I am not familiar with this letter writing accusation. Either of you care to explain your side?
    But you can count two tables?

  9. #549
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Boz and Monet: I am not familiar with this letter writing accusation. Either of you care to explain your side?
    About MDawg taking public companies I invested in for hundreds of thousands of dollars while being over comped.

    Along with concerns internal hosts were involved since they claim to tell him “He never loses”.

    Just a simple concerned investor about decisions that were being made IF the customers claims were true.

    Now we all (mostly all) know it was all BS but it made a point.

    Monet is desperate at this point to come back at me because I called him out on parlays at one point and pulled an old post of mine out of the air overnight.

    I can take it.

  10. #550
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Boz and Monet: I am not familiar with this letter writing accusation. Either of you care to explain your side?
    But you can count two tables?
    Interesting deflection. You are the one throwing out this accusation at Boz. If you are going to do that, why not tell what you are talking about? AND allow Boz to tell his side?

    And yes, I can count two tables, when the opportunity is right. Unfortunately there is less and less opportunity for this than just a couple years ago. I am happy to discuss this if you were really interested.
    Last edited by kewlJ; 04-25-2022 at 10:05 AM.

  11. #551
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    In general, Circa has the best numbers. When they opened, they made a real effort to have the most generous futures, also. They calmed down a bit, but are still the first stop or look. But here's the thing, Monet, in LV you can have phone and online accounts now. How hard is it to cross-reference numbers from phone and online accounts so you always get the best deal?

    William Hill is decent, but their futures have gone downhill. WestGate still isn't bad, but their opinions tend to be like my opinions, so that's no good. Surprisingly, Caesars isn't terrible. I don't know if that's by accident or design. You can really mess with Caesars by going in and asking them to explain their sports comp rates and how much you can bet with what card level. It's like a snipe hunt. They all pretend to know, but nobody does.
    Listen up Ditz.
    It goes like this.
    90% of the time Circa has the bar none best lines.
    98% of the time Stations has the worst lines you could ever imagine.
    I bet with both.
    Convenience sometimes trumps having to run the downtown logistical gauntlet and I had an account with Circa but their Fucking App doesn't work well for me for some reason.
    Cost me 1200 dollars because I wanted to bet on the Knights in a game before the start of the third period and the Fucking Swirly Circle wouldn't stop swirling.
    So the next day I immediately closed my account.
    In next to dead last place right beside Stations is Boyd Fucking Gaming... Horrible Lines and Scared Little Women behind the counter.
    Everyone else falls in the middle.
    I got in trouble at WestGate so I don't go in the joint too much anymore but Fuck their Super Book anyways.
    I beat their machines and mail out of a couple hundred grand so Fuck Them!
    And William Hill needs to be thrown out of the City/World.
    Mother Fucking Skeleton Crew working with less than 10k in the drawer.

  12. #552
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Boz and Monet: I am not familiar with this letter writing accusation. Either of you care to explain your side?
    About MDawg taking public companies I invested in for hundreds of thousands of dollars while being over comped.

    Along with concerns internal hosts were involved since they claim to tell him “He never loses”.

    Just a simple concerned investor about decisions that were being made IF the customers claims were true.

    Now we all (mostly all) know it was all BS but it made a point.

    Monet is desperate at this point to come back at me because I called him out on parlays at one point and pulled an old post of mine out of the air overnight.

    I can take it.
    Thank you for clarifying Boz. Yes, I had heard that story. Don't really care either way. Monet made it sound like there was an incident involving him.

  13. #553
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    In general, Circa has the best numbers. When they opened, they made a real effort to have the most generous futures, also. They calmed down a bit, but are still the first stop or look. But here's the thing, Monet, in LV you can have phone and online accounts now. How hard is it to cross-reference numbers from phone and online accounts so you always get the best deal?

    William Hill is decent, but their futures have gone downhill. WestGate still isn't bad, but their opinions tend to be like my opinions, so that's no good. Surprisingly, Caesars isn't terrible. I don't know if that's by accident or design. You can really mess with Caesars by going in and asking them to explain their sports comp rates and how much you can bet with what card level. It's like a snipe hunt. They all pretend to know, but nobody does.
    Listen up Ditz.
    It goes like this.
    90% of the time Circa has the bar none best lines.
    98% of the time Stations has the worst lines you could ever imagine.
    I bet with both.
    Convenience sometimes trumps having to run the downtown logistical gauntlet and I had an account with Circa but their Fucking App doesn't work well for me for some reason.
    Cost me 1200 dollars because I wanted to bet on the Knights in a game before the start of the third period and the Fucking Swirly Circle wouldn't stop swirling.
    So the next day I immediately closed my account.
    In next to dead last place right beside Stations is Boyd Fucking Gaming... Horrible Lines and Scared Little Women behind the counter.
    Everyone else falls in the middle.
    I got in trouble at WestGate so I don't go in the joint too much anymore but Fuck their Super Book anyways.
    I beat their machines and mail out of a couple hundred grand so Fuck Them!
    And William Hill needs to be thrown out of the City/World.
    Mother Fucking Skeleton Crew working with less than 10k in the drawer.
    You notice I didn't mention Stations? LOL. There was an interesting story regarding Boyd. About four/five years ago, for a two-year period, some Asian programmers were hammering college hoops and college hoops totals. They did really well. They did so well, that many of the larger books delayed their college hoops each day by an hour or two so Boyd took the brunt of the opening salvos because Boyd stayed on their usual schedule of posting numbers. I happened to be at the Gold Coast next to the Rio and managed to get access to the plays for a few days late in the year. Rio (Caesars) book didn't post numbers until after Boyd had posted their numbers. Boyd took the opening action, which moved the numbers real fast, so fast I missed optimal lines.

  14. #554
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Boz and Monet: I am not familiar with this letter writing accusation. Either of you care to explain your side?
    About MDawg taking public companies I invested in for hundreds of thousands of dollars while being over comped.

    Along with concerns internal hosts were involved since they claim to tell him “He never loses”.

    Just a simple concerned investor about decisions that were being made IF the customers claims were true.

    Now we all (mostly all) know it was all BS but it made a point.

    Monet is desperate at this point to come back at me because I called him out on parlays at one point and pulled an old post of mine out of the air overnight.

    I can take it.
    Thank you for clarifying Boz. Yes, I had heard that story. Don't really care either way. Monet made it sound like there was an incident involving him.
    Nope, only real history between Monet and I goes years back when he bragged about how he could have rolled an AP member on forums and stolen his substantial wad of cash he was carrying.

    To this day I’ll call him out on it because of him even thinking it.

    As for what I did, I totally understand how it pissed many off. That said I’m sure the casinos considered it a joke when they looked at the records of the individual and realized the online claims were total BS and he is exactly the type of customer they want and love to comp. Along with being great for corporate profits.

    Everything else is Monet being Monet, the guy who claims all AP’s are cheats and crooks and no one should ever trust him or anyone else in the line of work. I refuse to believe that and it pisses him off as well.

    All good, you know I can give it and take it with the best of them.

  15. #555
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post

    About MDawg taking public companies I invested in for hundreds of thousands of dollars while being over comped.

    Along with concerns internal hosts were involved since they claim to tell him “He never loses”.

    Just a simple concerned investor about decisions that were being made IF the customers claims were true.

    Now we all (mostly all) know it was all BS but it made a point.

    Monet is desperate at this point to come back at me because I called him out on parlays at one point and pulled an old post of mine out of the air overnight.

    I can take it.
    Thank you for clarifying Boz. Yes, I had heard that story. Don't really care either way. Monet made it sound like there was an incident involving him.
    Nope, only real history between Monet and I goes years back when he bragged about how he could have rolled an AP member on forums and stolen his substantial wad of cash he was carrying.

    To this day I’ll call him out on it because of him even thinking it.

    As for what I did, I totally understand how it pissed many off. That said I’m sure the casinos considered it a joke when they looked at the records of the individual and realized the online claims were total BS and he is exactly the type of customer they want and love to comp. Along with being great for corporate profits.

    Everything else is Monet being Monet, the guy who claims all AP’s are cheats and crooks and no one should ever trust him or anyone else in the line of work. I refuse to believe that and it pisses him off as well.

    All good, you know I can give it and take it with the best of them.
    Thanks again, Boz. I am aware of Monet saying the things he said about Axelwolf. I didn't like it either. Not just that he could have "rolled him", I didn't like him airing all the dirty details of their meetup. I don't drink much anymore, but used to and we have all been there where you go out with friends or meet up with friends and maybe have a bit too much. You don't expect those "friends" to be online spilling those details.

    Monet seeks to find the worst in people and situations. He thinks everyone is basically bad/evil. He finds fault with and thinks everyone is out to get him.

    I don't know why you people can't all get along? I get along with everybody.

  16. #556
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post

    Thanks again, Boz. I am aware of Monet saying the things he said about Axelwolf. I didn't like it either. Not just that he could have "rolled him", I didn't like him airing all the dirty details of their meetup. I don't drink much anymore, but used to and we have all been there where you go out with friends or meet up with friends and maybe have a bit too much. You don't expect those "friends" to be online spilling those details.

    Monet seeks to find the worst in people and situations. He thinks everyone is basically bad/evil. He finds fault with and thinks everyone is out to get him.

    I don't know why you people can't all get along? I get along with everybody.
    What you don't like is the TRUTH.
    It HURTS.
    And you claim to be some Honorable Goody Two Shoe Twinkle Toe Card Counter.
    I'm here to let everyone know that the AP World is nothing but a dirty, slimy, filthy cesspool.
    The only difference between me and you is that I admit it.

  17. #557
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    You notice I didn't mention Stations? LOL. There was an interesting story regarding Boyd. About four/five years ago, for a two-year period, some Asian programmers were hammering college hoops and college hoops totals. They did really well. They did so well, that many of the larger books delayed their college hoops each day by an hour or two so Boyd took the brunt of the opening salvos because Boyd stayed on their usual schedule of posting numbers. I happened to be at the Gold Coast next to the Rio and managed to get access to the plays for a few days late in the year. Rio (Caesars) book didn't post numbers until after Boyd had posted their numbers. Boyd took the opening action, which moved the numbers real fast, so fast I missed optimal lines.
    Good Story... thanks for sharing!

  18. #558
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    And you claim to be some Honorable Goody Two Shoe Twinkle Toe Card Counter.
    The only two words of this statement that are true is card counter. Yes, I claim to be a card counter. The rest is just you being judgmental of someone you don't know and haven't met.

    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    I'm here to let everyone know that the AP World is nothing but a dirty, slimy, filthy cesspool.
    The only difference between me and you is that I admit it.
    That hasn't been my experience. I have an AP friend that has reached out and helped me over the past few months, putting me to work on a couple small plays, because he knew about the incident that has caused me to take some time off from card counting. Nothing big, a couple small plays that benefited both of us.

    I am sure there are good people and bad people in APing, just as there are in all walks of life. It is just for some reason you look for the bad in everyone. That is your issue, not mine. To steal a quote from the Ricky Bobby movie "I guess someone didn't love you enough as a kid".

  19. #559
    Originally Posted by kewlJ;141545I
    Don't know why you people can't all get along? I get along with everybody.
    --->

    Antelope Range (White Pine County, Nevada).

    https://anagram-solver.net/%20I%20do...0?partial=true

    Monet is right, about life. They don't make movies like the Matrix to warn people of what may happen, but, to make even more money off them thinking that they ever had a chance. Regardless, Monet still hasn't figured out the truth, the solution to the above.

    Well, I that Dan erased some more of my posts.
    Every one /everyone knows it all; yet, no thing /nothing is truly known by any one /anyone. Similarly, the suckers think that they win, but, the house always wins, unless to hand out an even worse beating.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsa6ojQcYXQ

    Garnabby + OppsIdidItAgain + ThomasClines (or TomasHClines) + TheGrimReaper + LMR + OneHitWonder (or 1HitWonder, 1Hit1der) + Bill Yung ---> GOTTLOB1, or GOTTLOB = Praise to God!

    Survived by MHF.

    Blog at https://garnabby.blogspot.com/

  20. #560
    Originally Posted by Garnabby View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ;141545I
    Don't know why you people can't all get along? I get along with everybody.
    --->

    Antelope Range (White Pine County, Nevada).

    https://anagram-solver.net/%20I%20do...0?partial=true

    Monet is right, about life. They don't make movies like the Matrix to warn people of what may happen, but, to make even more money off them thinking that they ever had a chance. Regardless, Monet still hasn't figured out the truth, the solution to the above.

    Well, I that Dan erased some more of my posts.
    Not True.
    I have known the solution for 35 years.
    LOVE GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART FIRST
    SECOND... LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF

    Unfortunately, 97.5% of us will burn in the invisible fire so might as well have some fun while we can.

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