Originally Posted by monet View Post
Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
Well hopefully Groubert is dead on when he says it's a must see doc. I'm ripping it from https://w1.123movies-org.site/movie/...html?ep=1&sv=9
if you decide to watch it Monet (no one else reads these threads except us two, so I assume I am speaking to a viewership of one), you can watch or rip it from this link.
All the members, guests and rats read every word we type out.

Thanks for the link.
I failed to mention it before but I seen it when it first came out.
I disagree with Mark on the enjoyment of the documentary.
Mark is on the inside so he is probably looking at it from a few different angles compared to me who is only looking to be entertained.
Mark probably likes the truth and accuracy of it and the way it was shot and written and Mark probably has some sort of friendship with Val.
In my opinion it makes Val look bad, needy and weak.
Val Fucked Up his money a few times which is easy to do and I understand.
Val sold all that property to gamble on Mark Twain???
Fuck That... I hate that idea lol.
I don't believe a Mark Twain movie would of been popular with the masses these days.
So many things I don't like about the documentary.
I'll probably never watch it again unless its on a TV and I'm too lazy to change the channel and I have nothing else to do.
Fucking Up your money that bad and doing those shows and signing all those autographs??
Putting a blanket over your head while they wheel you out.
Val makes it sort of look like he got the short end but it is obvious that he Fucked things up.
I mean he had a GREAT FUCKING RUN but the Party is Over and most people can't ever face that fact and want to live forever.

Val Kilmer still has something like 5 to 10 Million.
Fuck... just relax and enjoy your money till you move on from this world.
But he is an addict who has to document every second of his life so that isn't going to change lol.
I sort of understand.
Life is messy and complicated.

I prefer famous people to act like Norm Macdonald.
Sarcastic, Strong and Secretive all the way till the bitter end.
Or at the very least just quietly disappear out of the public view.
Well if Val still has 5-10M left, that's plenty. I should not have assumed you hadn't seen Val's autobiography film. I assume he is still in Malibu, which has some of the best weather in the world, and he's got a nice ride. In the documentary, he claimed it was the divorce expenses that fucked him up, but I'll take your word for it that it was the Mark Twain movie that reduced his fortune to 5-10M (I will also take your word for it that you are not the only one reading this thread besides me). If you're not a smoker and get throat cancer that's somewhat of a bad beat (I'm guessing he was not a smoker, or not much of one, but I don't know). Anyway, I'm glad he got it treated and recovered - hopefully his voice will recover too, but that's gravy.
I enjoyed the footage Val provided from the set of the Island of Dr. Moreau fiasco. I liked that movie even though it was supposed to have been a total fuck-up.
What I was really hoping for, was a lot more detail about Real Genius which is one of my favorite movies and my favorite movie that Val made -but it was totally glossed over.
I saw an obscure movie 17 or so years ago that he did called Mindhunters which you may have seen. IIRC this one sat on the rack for 10 years or something like that and then it was in theaters (where I saw it) for like a week. It was OK, nothing special. Since Val did so many movies, I guess it was understandable that he glossed over a lot of them and just stuck to detailing the big ones.
Anyway, as you mentioned, Mark is probably (like 99.9% probably) a friend of Val's and was just plugging the shit for Val. I thought it was Ok, but absolutely no fucking way was this a must see documentary.
Hopefully Val realizes that cruising around Malibu in a nice ride with 5-10M in the bank is just fine, but that's out of my hands.