When Weakness Prevails, Show Them The Meaning of Strength

[Treeshade]

Sorry KJ, but you may be wrong about this.

You admit that you know the true name of "Rob Singer," so a threat against "Rob Singer" (Argentino's nom de plume) is a threat against Argentino.

Robert Argentino did not do any of the things portrayed by the character Rob Singer. This makes "Rob Singer" a character, no different than Chili Palmer in the "Get Shorty" movies. So if someone says they are going to kill Chili Palmer is that a threat against John Travolta? I don't think so.

By contrast, the person posting as mickeycrimm, or KewlJ or most of the members here are real people, telling of their real experiences. They are just using an alias for obvious reasons. So a threat or accusation against them is a threat or accusation against a real person.

But your assumption is what I’m
Saying is a lie

It’s

Not

Because

You sucked cock for Money and favors

So

This

Person

Would

Testify to this


Lol


Lol


And you would have to sit on Court and discuss all the cock sucking adventures for cash


I actually May let you serve me just for that

[Treeshade]

But if someone was to accuse any one of these three, using their alias of a crime that the person didn't commit, I believe that person could take legal action, regardless that their real or legal name wasn't used.

That there is some real doubletalk.

To be clear, are you asserting that I can, or cannot, take legal action against you for falsely accusing me of a crime?

Anything you need coach I will sign.

I will say he sucked me cock under oath

[tableplay]

Going to leave you guys with a play I ran within the last two years

I call it card ghosting others that know about it may call it something else. It’s exploiting a vulnerability in certain player tracking systems. I honestly don’t know of anyone else who’s aware of it. One particular casino group who recently went on a buying spree was particularly vulnerable at one of their new properties.

The play was simple enough create a max offer card first. This particular spot was giving away 400 6 days a week for a certain amount of coin in. Easy to do they had some games I could do this on for less then 500. I work with a very tight group all women. As they blend in pretty good. So I had my team build 8 max offer cards worth a little under 10k per month. This casino had a very strict amount of play that was required to keep offers on for more then 4 days. If you just came in and converted the free play they would kill the card. The amount of play needed to keep the offer on the entire two months was not sustainable. Meaning you could not profit. But there was away

Card ghosting involves a dummy card in tandem with the card that has the offer. I’m not going to explain every step but essentially you are able to convince the player tracking system that the offer was never redeemed even tho it was. What made this particular play worth so much was the system allowed for the banking of free play without expiration. However under normal circumstances this would not be exploitable because after 4 swipes with no play the casino would kill the card.

This is where the ghosting comes into play. Since the system did not recognize the ghost card it allowed for the perpetual banking of free play lol. So a two month offer essentially becomes an infinity amount or at least to a point someone would notice , or you actually redeemed the cash. So we turned a two month offer into a three month offer downloading and converting 27k per card all in one day at the end of three months. I have no doubt we could have banked much more but our team settled on three Months as the limit.


The ghosting steps should be easy to figure out for those who have a understanding of ripping free play in the past.

This casino fixed their vulnerability so it no longer works but it was pretty fun while it lasted.

I encountered a guy who would copy the mag stripe of a players card onto an extremely thin, almost invisible laminate film. The laminate film was delivered into the card reader of a machine via a regular players card and then the players card was pulled out leaving the film in the machine to accumulate points on the card the laminate was copied from whenever the machine was played (until some player discovered a different name on the electronic display which might happen right away). Way above my pay grade, but I figured some VCTers might find it interesting. I used the term Ghost Card for this, but clearly there is more than one meaning for the term based on what you just posted Seed Value.

[coach belly]

And you would have to sit on Court and discuss all the cock sucking adventures for cash

Why would he object?

He's been writing about his cock sucking adventures on this forum for years,
and nobody ever asked him about it...he implicated himself.

[kewlJ]

Second I have real life testimony of people that would sign a sworn statement said cock was sucked for money and favors

This is a lie and am quite sure about as many people believe this as believe Singer owned a Newell and won a 1.6 million dollar jackpot last month. I don't mean people like mickey that have already announced they will say they believe it to annoy others, I mean people that really believe it.

You don't have any such names or testimony. If you do post them. I give permission. Otherwise I request Dan Druff hold you to the same standards that he held some of us to a couple years ago about posting false accusations. And yes, I am aware it won't matter to you if and when he bans you, you will return using a different handle, which will only further prove that you are a troll.

Now anyone that knows me or has even read for a long time, knows I am very particular about who's cock I suck. I am picky. Less so with receiving. But if it isn't someone I am interested in, money wouldn't change that. You are just soooo barking up the wrong tree with me.

[coach belly]

the only people who believe KJ are Red, and MrV.

V wrote that tewlj has been vouched for...so there must be somebody else.

The trick is getting V to disclose who vouched...maybe your equations can figure that out.

[Treeshade]

Going to leave you guys with a play I ran within the last two years

I call it card ghosting others that know about it may call it something else. It’s exploiting a vulnerability in certain player tracking systems. I honestly don’t know of anyone else who’s aware of it. One particular casino group who recently went on a buying spree was particularly vulnerable at one of their new properties.

The play was simple enough create a max offer card first. This particular spot was giving away 400 6 days a week for a certain amount of coin in. Easy to do they had some games I could do this on for less then 500. I work with a very tight group all women. As they blend in pretty good. So I had my team build 8 max offer cards worth a little under 10k per month. This casino had a very strict amount of play that was required to keep offers on for more then 4 days. If you just came in and converted the free play they would kill the card. The amount of play needed to keep the offer on the entire two months was not sustainable. Meaning you could not profit. But there was away

Card ghosting involves a dummy card in tandem with the card that has the offer. I’m not going to explain every step but essentially you are able to convince the player tracking system that the offer was never redeemed even tho it was. What made this particular play worth so much was the system allowed for the banking of free play without expiration. However under normal circumstances this would not be exploitable because after 4 swipes with no play the casino would kill the card.

This is where the ghosting comes into play. Since the system did not recognize the ghost card it allowed for the perpetual banking of free play lol. So a two month offer essentially becomes an infinity amount or at least to a point someone would notice , or you actually redeemed the cash. So we turned a two month offer into a three month offer downloading and converting 27k per card all in one day at the end of three months. I have no doubt we could have banked much more but our team settled on three Months as the limit.


The ghosting steps should be easy to figure out for those who have a understanding of ripping free play in the past.

This casino fixed their vulnerability so it no longer works but it was pretty fun while it lasted.

I encountered a guy who would copy the mag stripe of a players card onto an extremely thin, almost invisible laminate film. The laminate film was delivered into the card reader of a machine via a regular players card and then the players card was pulled out leaving the film in the machine to accumulate points on the card the laminate was copied from whenever the machine was played (until some player discovered a different name on the electronic display which might happen right away). Way above my pay grade, but I figured some VCTers might find it interesting. I used the term Ghost Card for this, but clearly there is more than one meaning for the term based on what you just posted Seed Value.

Interesting I think this would be something I wouldn’t do. Very creative and nothing I was aware of. I remember the pin cracking teams back in Atlantic City. They got caught eventually

[Treeshade]

Second I have real life testimony of people that would sign a sworn statement said cock was sucked for money and favors

This is a lie and am quite sure about as many people believe this as believe Singer owned a Newell and won a 1.6 million dollar jackpot last month. I don't mean people like mickey that have already announced they will say they believe it to annoy others, I mean people that really believe it.

You don't have any such names or testimony. If you do post them. I give permission. Otherwise I request Dan Druff hold you to the same standards that he held some of us to a couple years ago about posting false accusations. And yes, I am aware it won't matter to you if and when he bans you, you will return using a different handle, which will only further prove that you are a troll.

Now anyone that knows me or has even read for a long time, knows I am very particular about who's cock I suck. I am picky. Less so with receiving. But if it isn't someone I am interested in, money wouldn't change that. You are just soooo barking up the wrong tree with me.

So you think I don’t have someone willing to sign a sworn affidavit you sucked their cock for Money , food, and Starbucks?

You live a very sheltered fabricated life gunplay

[coach belly]

anyone that knows me or has even read for a long time, knows I am very particular about who's cock I suck.

I have read your lies for a long time, and I don't know anything about how you decide which cocks to suck.

We all believe Seed.

[coach belly]

All I know is that someone named, Flash, or whoever, a retired coroner, at BlackJackInfo, got into an online spat with KJ

Doesn't exactly make Flash an outlier.

[kewlJ]

So you think I don’t have someone willing to sign a sworn affidavit you sucked their cock for Money , food, and Starbucks?

Ahh....no I don't think you have anyone, because none of that occurred. It is pure fantasyland stuff.

So happens I don't drink coffee and have been in a starbucks exactly once in my life, when tasha sent out giftcards, I ate lunch there.

[Treeshade]

So you think I don’t have someone willing to sign a sworn affidavit you sucked their cock for Money , food, and Starbucks?

Ahh....no I don't think you have anyone, because none of that occurred. It is pure fantasyland stuff.

So happens I don't drink coffee and have been in a starbucks exactly once in my life, when tasha sent out giftcards, I ate lunch there.

But if I have someone willing to sign a affidavit it happened it must be true. How would
v cross examine my cock sucked witnesses? Would he demand them to act out the full deed right there in court ? Would my lawyer demand you show us how it’s done on a 8 inch Asian dildo ?

[kewlJ]

Doesn't exactly make Flash an outlier.

Ok, so you guys are bringing up Flash. I didn't want to talk bad about him because last I heard he was very, very sick, plus in his 80's and I suspect he has now passed on.

But here is the real story of Flash. He was a college professor, who retired in his early 50's to pursue blackjack card counting. He also admitted many times that he was a lifetime horse race and roulette player. So when he retired to pursue blackjack, his wife continued working for 20 years to support them. He never really made a living from blackjack play as he claims. He had one big year playing on a hole-card team where he made several hundred thousand dollars. Other than that he averaged 17k a year from card counting. Again, he admitted this towards the end of his posting days.

Now none of what I said is a problem. Nothing wrong with a parttime player playing in retirement, making a little money. But he was never a professional player as he claimed for many years. So what he did at Norm's forum, Blackjack the forum, was present himself as this 20 year professional player, willing to tutor or mentor new players for a fee. Nothing really wrong with that either. The BJ boot camp guys do that. I don't really like the idea of churning out more players for no reason, but that is probably because I make my living playing blackjack.

So the real problem with Flash is that it came to light throughout the BJ community that as part of this training or mentoring, Flash would combine bankrolls with his "students", which he would hold. So low and behold, Flash was robbed of this 6 figure bankroll, when no one else was around. People that knew flash suspected he lost the BR playing roulette or craps.

I know this is kind of a nasty story to relay of someone no longer with us, but anyone that wants to can check with some of the real BJ players in the community.

[coach belly]

anyone that wants to can check with some of the real BJ players in the community.

I want to.

Please advise how to proceed, otherwise you're full of shit,
a name-dropper without any names to drop.

But what else is new?

[kewlJ]

anyone that wants to can check with some of the real BJ players in the community.

I want to.

Please advise how to proceed, otherwise you're full of shit.

But what else is new?

Not my job to prove it. You look into it. Many of the quotes from Flash admitting what he made and of his life long losing gambling are still at Norm's forum as far as I know. I believe you can read the story I just relayed there as well in bits and pieces.

[kewlJ]

Oh by the way, early in my career, back before Norm's forum, I was one of those young players Flash wanted to "mentor". We communicated privately frequently. He did something very early on that immediately spoke to his character. I have never mentioned this in public, only privately with a couple people I network with.

Flash sent me a downloaded (pirated) copy of James Grosjean's Beyond Counting. This was 15 years ago, when this book was the bible, and it was difficult to get a copy. Copies occasionally popped up on Ebay for $2000 or more. Now there are many pirated copies.

This was a really sleazy thing to do. It was literally stealing from Grosjean. I suspect he did this to all his students or potential students.

[coach belly]

Not my job to prove it.

Providing a link and some names doesn't prove anything,
it just supports the otherwise baseless claims that you made.

That's typical of your behavior...baseless claims, imagination, speculation and conjecture,
presented as fact without any attempt at corroboration.

[kewlJ]

Not my job to prove it.

Providing a link and some names doesn't prove anything,
it just supports the otherwise baseless claims that you made.

That's typical of your behavior...baseless claims, imagination, speculation and conjecture,
presented as fact without any attempt at corroboration.

Dude, that just isn't my job. On top of that I am banned at BJTF, so unable to sign in, which limits the search feature.

As for the real BJ players around today, anybody on as many gambling forums as you should know who they are by name and handle. I am sure none communicate with you because you are a known troll, but you should know the names. If you don't that is on you.

[tableplay]

Interesting I think this would be something I wouldn’t do.

Ditto - I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole.

[jbjb]

Hockey Time... CYA.
I hope the Tampa Bay Faggots win to force a game 7.

DE-NIED!!