Former member Moses aka Tater has passed away

[The Boz]

My best friend owns and operates a Funeral Home and they usually screen these comments. I’m shocked this home is allowing this nonsense to be posted.

MDawg said he contacted them and I have no reason to disbelieve him so that in it’s itself is telling about this particular FH.

No excuse to the scum doing this but damn, wake up director of this home.

All of that said, KJ not sure why after everything you have read and contributed to on these forums, I see your outrage, like mine as something we shouldn’t be surprised about.

[kewlJ]

All of that said, KJ not sure why after everything you have read and contributed to on these forums, I see your outrage, like mine as something we shouldn’t be surprised about.

Not surprised Boz, but still outraged. And I didn't even care for Moses.

If you read the obituary, Kevin Keen was a father and grandfather. Grandfather! Can you imagine his grandkids reading the messages on their grandfather's obituary wall, and seeing this crap, complete with homosexual references of anal sex with 9.5 inch dick? Grandkids for God sakes! Is all sense of decency now gone?

[The Boz]

All of that said, KJ not sure why after everything you have read and contributed to on these forums, I see your outrage, like mine as something we shouldn’t be surprised about.

Not surprised Boz, but still outraged. And I didn't even care for Moses.

If you read the obituary, Kevin Keen was a father and grandfather. Grandfather! Can you imagine his grandkids reading the messages on their grandfather's obituary wall, and seeing this crap, complete with homosexual references of anal sex with 9.5 inch dick? Grandkids for God sakes! Is all sense of decency now gone?

Well I will say “you people”������ have promoted for years now that there is nothing wrong with homosexuality, anal sex and taking a 9.5 c#ck in the ass. So I’m sure they would understand and accept if he was if they don’t want to be considered racist and bigoted.

Obviously it’s BS and beyond common decency but I’m not sure the homosexual aspect is the hill to die on. The entire thing shows how deprived some posters are on these forums. But we all are guilty of contributing to it. Hard to count on one hand those who haven’t contributed to the garbage over the years, or allowed it to thrive. So while this is a new low, this is nothing shocking to me, and probably should have been expected. I can think of a few older posters on these forums who will deal with the same if the Funeral Home allows it,

[Treeshade]

All of that said, KJ not sure why after everything you have read and contributed to on these forums, I see your outrage, like mine as something we shouldn’t be surprised about.

Not surprised Boz, but still outraged. And I didn't even care for Moses.

If you read the obituary, Kevin Keen was a father and grandfather. Grandfather! Can you imagine his grandkids reading the messages on their grandfather's obituary wall, and seeing this crap, complete with homosexual references of anal sex with 9.5 inch dick? Grandkids for God sakes! Is all sense of decency now gone?

You are the most likely culprit considering your multiple year feud with him. Just like you made a new sock over at WOV called fictionlover.

Gunplay you’re one sick guy

[kewlJ]

You are the most likely culprit considering your multiple year feud with him. Just like you made a new sock over at WOV called fictionlover.

Gunplay you’re one sick guy

You sir, are simply blinded by your dislike and hate of me. You say your issue was that I said something about you thinking you were someone else. But is that really your issue? I apologized for that when it became clear and was confirmed by Druff that you were not JWT, as I had thought. And yet you still can't let it go. Just relax dude.

I am not confirming nor denying anything about fictionlover. But come on "that person" isn't trying to hide who they are and THAT is the basis of sockpuppets. I think fictionlover just wanted to remind some people, like Darkoz of some facts about this great adventure that they may have forgotten, like how the story and claims have changed. I mean it has been going on for years with claims every single day, it really isn't too hard to forget something.

BTW, you have made some comments that contradict parts of this great adventure. I don't know if you didn't read everything (who could blame you?) or it seems like giving the guy a pass in that maybe he was saying things to mislead "just enough". If he had to lie, and leave out parts that make the whole story true, like the losing periods, why did he begin posting this whole thing anyway? On 4 different forums no less! Come on dude, that makes no sense.

Now let me tell you something you may have forgotten or maybe did not know. The idea of loss rebates was brought up by Axelwolf, well into this whole ordeal. Prior to that Mdawg just kept saying things like betting into streaks. Axelwolf brought up loss rebates and Mdawg was like "yeah, that is what I am doing".

Well Loss rebates doesn't come close to jiving with what this guy claimed, 102 winning sessions out of 104 at one point. THAT isn't how loss rebates work, as I am sure you know. You actually have to lose some sessions to benefit from loss rebates.

The guy (Mdog) is just all over the place and has been since day one with changing stories, storyline and timelines, like no one has seen since the great Rob Singer was in his trolling prime.

[Treeshade]

You are the most likely culprit considering your multiple year feud with him. Just like you made a new sock over at WOV called fictionlover.

Gunplay you’re one sick guy

You sir, are simply blinded by your dislike and hate of me. You say your issue was that I said something about you thinking you were someone else. But is that really your issue? I apologized for that when it became clear and was confirmed by Druff that you were not JWT, as I had thought. And yet you still can't let it go. Just relax dude.

I am not confirming nor denying anything about fictionlover. But come on "that person" isn't trying to hide who they are and THAT is the basis of sockpuppets. I think fictionlover just wanted to remind some people, like Darkoz of some facts about this great adventure that they may have forgotten, like how the story and claims have changed. I mean it has been going on for years with claims every single day, it really isn't too hard to forget something.

BTW, you have made some comments that contradict parts of this great adventure. I don't know if you didn't read everything (who could blame you?) or it seems like giving the guy a pass in that maybe he was saying things to mislead "just enough". If he had to lie, and leave out parts that make the whole story true, like the losing periods, why did he begin posting this whole thing anyway? On 4 different forums no less! Come on dude, that makes no sense.

Now let me tell you something you may have forgotten or maybe did not know. The idea of loss rebates was brought up by Axelwolf, well into this whole ordeal. Prior to that Mdawg just kept saying things like betting into streaks. Axelwolf brought up loss rebates and Mdawg was like "yeah, that is what I am doing".

Well Loss rebates doesn't come close to jiving with what this guy claimed, 102 winning sessions out of 104 at one point. THAT isn't how loss rebates work, as I am sure you know. You actually have to lose some sessions to benefit from loss rebates.

The guy (Mdog) is just all over the place and has been since day one with changing stories, storyline and timelines, like no one has seen since the great Rob Singer was in his trolling prime.

I read the majority of it when I came down with covid a few months ago. It became sort of a pet project of mine while sick. I shared some things in DM with a few members including Oz what my theory is, and how I was successfully able to negotiate a deal that gave a player advantage with one casino. One out of many many many stores we contacted. Yes I am giving him a pass on the things that don’t make sense. I explained the reasoning behind that. I’m not the seasoned forum poster you are so maybe I didn’t explain that well enough.

There are actually a few ways to negotiate a player advantage if the casino agrees. I think I made it very clear That I’m not saying this is what mdawg is doing. However after figuring out a way to negotiate a deal that gives a player advantage I wouldn’t bet against him. The theory Oz has is not much different then what Mikki Mase is suggesting he does. I learned a long time ago in this game that when everyone says something is impossible then maybe that’s something that needs to be looked at closer.

For example your claim of counting two tables at once is absurd, however utilizing a few guys to count multiple tables for a team is not.

[kewlJ]

For example your claim of counting two tables at once is absurd, however utilizing a few guys to count multiple tables for a team is not.

If you say so. I mean you have never been anything but honest since you arrived here. Male prostitute, suggardaddies, luring married men.

I am not going to argue this with you or anyone, anymore. Bringing up the tracking two tables could and should have been one of the biggest mistakes I have made on these forums, as far as revealing too much. I got lucky and didn't pay much of a price because it was this forum, and I don't think too many industry folks read this forum, although Druff thinks otherwise.

I will make this one comment just in case there is any misconception and then think and say what you like. I think people don't understand that it only need be done for a very short period. No one is claiming they sit there and track 2 different tables through 6 decks of cards.

The example would be, a new shuffle starts at my table. After 3 rounds or about a deck played the running count is -6 or a little more than -1 true count. At the next table a game is starting off the top off a fresh shuffle. So I track both tables for a round of two. Two round later, my table is still hovering at -6 but now with 4 decks remaining for a TC -1.5 The second table is at +9 with just about 5 decks remaining. That is almost a true count of +2. So which is the better opportunity for the next several decks of play. My table with a TC of -1.5 (better than a 2% disadvantage) or the second table with a true count of almost +2 (slightly more than 1% advantage)?

Now what if I missed a couple cards at that second table and the running count is only +7 instead of the +9 that I think? Which is the better opportunity going forward, TC -1.5 or TC +1.5? That is all we are talking about.

But anyway, I think you are right nobody could do that.

By the way it is really almost a moot point now. The number of opportunities to track a second table is night and day difference from pre-covid to post covid, so this has all but dried up or at least much, much less opportunity. And covid doesn't really have anything to do with it. It is just less regular blackjack games in the pits. Casinos want to use that space for all the new games with higher house edges. The spread of stadium and electronic blackjacks hasn't helped either.

[Treeshade]

For example your claim of counting two tables at once is absurd, however utilizing a few guys to count multiple tables for a team is not.

If you say so. I mean you have never been anything but honest since you arrived here. Male prostitute, suggardaddies, luring married men.

I am not going to argue this with you or anyone, anymore. Bringing up the tracking two tables could and should have been one of the biggest mistakes I have made on these forums, as far as revealing too much. I got lucky and didn't pay much of a price because it was this forum, and I don't think too many industry folks read this forum, although Druff thinks otherwise.

I will make this one comment just in case there is any misconception and then think and say what you like. I think people don't understand that it only need be done for a very short period. No one is claiming they sit there and track 2 different tables through 6 decks of cards.

The example would be, a new shuffle starts at my table. After 3 rounds or about a deck played the running count is -6 or a little more than -1 true count. At the next table a game is starting off the top off a fresh shuffle. So I track both tables for a round of two. Two round later, my table is still hovering at -6 but now with 4 decks remaining for a TC -1.5 The second table is at +9 with just about 5 decks remaining. That is almost a true count of +2. So which is the better opportunity for the next several decks of play. My table with a TC of -1.5 (better than a 2% disadvantage) or the second table with a true count of almost +2 (slightly more than 1% advantage)?

Now what if I missed a couple cards at that second table and the running count is only +7 instead of the +9 that I think? Which is the better opportunity going forward, TC -1.5 or TC +1.5? That is all we are talking about.

But anyway, I think you are right nobody could do that.

By the way it is really almost a moot point now. The number of opportunities to track a second table is night and day difference from pre-covid to post covid, so this has all but dried up or at least much, much less opportunity. And covid doesn't really have anything to do with it. It is just less regular blackjack games in the pits. Casinos want to use that space for all the new games with higher house edges. The spread of stadium and electronic blackjacks hasn't helped either.

“If you say so. I mean you have never been anything but honest since you arrived here. Male prostitute, suggardaddies, luring married men”

Correct about you yes at least good reliable sources say this is your fetish or play.

But whatever Count two tables or three it’s a waste of time for theoretical Pennies.