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[MisterV]

Wait, are you claiming Mickey hasn't regularly reported his earned income to the IRS and paid taxes on it?

[redietz]

Wait, are you claiming Mickey hasn't regularly reported his earned income to the IRS and paid taxes on it?

I'm saying he spends his days bitching and moaning about some African American women getting WIC while we're all sharing a tab to keep a decades-long alcoholic alive. Those "lazy" urban women he considers to be sucking on the government teat, even though they are young and healthy and raising children. Mickey, meanwhile, has abused his body with a drug for decades and considers it his right to hit up the government (i.e. all of us) to prop up his body for the duration.

That's hypocrisy. Mickey's displayed decades-long irresponsibility. He wants some say in who gets what he calls welfare. I'd like some say in where my tax dollars go, too, and not into keeping aged alcoholics alive for little good reason.

I haven't spent one cent of any social security medical benefits. The system, unfortunately, is a shared one. So I'm picking up mickey's tab. As a conservative, he should just reap what he's sown and not stick everyone else with the bill.

[MisterV]

It could be he just doesn't like black people; there's a lot of that going around.

[smurgerburger]

Not that I care but I'm not sure the assumption that the average tax payer takes more out of SS than he puts in is correct (of course with proper adjustments for both inflation and the yield on whatever they park SS monies in).

The reason people call SS a Ponzi scheme is because of the demographic problem where the class of beneficiaries is growing in proportion to the class of tax payers. (I.e. the population is aging.)

[accountinquestion]

Not that I care but I'm not sure the assumption that the average tax payer takes more out of SS than he puts in is correct (of course with proper adjustments for both inflation and the yield on whatever they park SS monies in).

The reason people call SS a Ponzi scheme is because of the demographic problem where the class of beneficiaries is growing in proportion to the class of tax payers. (I.e. the population is aging.)

I've always assumed that when SS first came out people were paid who didn't put anything or very little into it. (However I have not researched this) From then the money put into it was fairly quickly paid out. So the current payers are paying for people who already paid. There is no pot of money created by people who paid in. So at some point people who paid in will become increasingly shafted.

I really don't see any functional difference from a tax except that it can be sold to conservative simps who don't see it that way.

Anyway, this is how I see it. Feel free to correct me.

[MisterV]

The Social Security trust funds are financial accounts in the U.S. Treasury. There are two separate Social Security trust funds, the Old-Age and Survivors Insurance (OASI) Trust Fund pays retirement and survivors benefits, and the Disability Insurance (DI) Trust Fund pays disability benefits.

Social Security taxes and other income are deposited in these accounts, and Social Security benefits are paid from them. The only purposes for which these trust funds can be used are to pay benefits and program administrative costs.

The Social Security trust funds hold money not needed in the current year to pay benefits and administrative costs and, by law, invest it in special Treasury bonds that are guaranteed by the U.S. Government. A market rate of interest is paid to the trust funds on the bonds they hold, and when those bonds reach maturity or are needed to pay benefits, the Treasury redeems them.

[TheGrimReaper]

Oh, and Fuck Warranties Too. Warranties are the DEVIL! I don't want a warranty. I don't want an extended warranty. I will not claim a warranty. I believe in throw it away and buy another.

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My Word is My Bond. Yours should be too. Handle your own business and stop relying on others.

Monet, it seems that whenever you bring the Devil into it, something goes wrong for you.

Look, a warranty is another word for, guarantee or bond. It's like you put yourself forward as the only one to trust, which is what the Devil does.

A warranty is a product manufacturer or service provider's documented guarantee of quality as promised to a customer. Warranties provide customers with legally-ensured service replacement or correction of issues insofar as the warranty stipulates in its conditions, for the duration of its term.

But, the thing I will never get over is how Tablepooey tries to score points, to appear more appealing in your eyes. The guy with the penny slots wins, and, slots programming printouts, who goes on to then think that he's some sort and degree of math and physics expert, let alone critic.

As far as I'm concerned, any AP worth anything knows not to wise up a sucker. Ha.


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But, the thing I will never get over is how Tablepooey tries to score points, to appear more appealing in your eyes. The guy with the penny slots wins, and, slots programming printouts, who goes on to then think that he's some sort and degree of math and physics expert, let alone critic.

And the thing that I'll never get over is how sensitive the meds cocktail you must keep in balance is. If just one thing is off, such as a bad lot of lithium from your pharmacy, the whole house of cards falls apart and then you're on here again posting gibberish non-stop for a while until things balance out. I never said anything about being a math and physics expert Mr. Straw Man. You know absolutely nothing about either however.

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But, the thing I will never get over is how Tablepooey tries to score points, to appear more appealing in your eyes. The guy with the penny slots wins, and, slots programming printouts, who goes on to then think that he's some sort and degree of math and physics expert, let alone critic.

And the thing that I'll never get over is how sensitive the meds cocktail you must keep in balance is. If just one thing is off, such as a bad lot of lithium from your pharmacy, the whole house of cards falls apart and then you're on here again posting gibberish non-stop for a while until things balance out. I never said anything about being a math and physics expert Mr. Straw Man. You know absolutely nothing about either however.

I 100% never said that you said anything about being a math and physics expert, Mr. Straw Straw-Man Man. I wrote that you [must] think such - going by your extreme claims, say, that I know nothing, let alone that I take lithium. Gibberish, you say? I've seen absolutely nothing to match any of it, from you. Ha.

Hard to get over as well how Monet felt that he had to, at some length, try to defend your character, honor or whatever, given such whimsically contrary behavior. Of course you are going to continue to try to also defend him.

Double P.S.S. At least it appears, at least with me, that you have mellowed out a bit, but, again, this may be a sign of emotional suppression by cult. Losing sight of what's mainstream for all of the such videos "you guys" watch together while thinking that the people who run the world give a fuck. Anything for a buck, I guess, although its hard to envision at least Monet parting with one for the "cause".


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who goes on to then think that he's some sort and degree of math and physics expert, let alone critic.

I 100% never said that you said anything about being a math and physics expert, Mr. Straw Straw-Man Man. I wrote that you [must] think such - going by your extreme claims, say, that I know nothing, let alone that I take lithium. Gibberish, you say? I've seen absolutely nothing to match any of it, from you. Ha.

Yes you did you lying fuck. See above in red.

[monet]

Next USER NAME for Bill Yung should be Lying Fuck... that would be a fun view for me when I log in.
Hey Lying Fuck... how's it going?
Love It!

[Ozzy]

But, the thing I will never get over is how Tablepooey tries to score points, to appear more appealing in your eyes. The guy with the penny slots wins, and, slots programming printouts, who goes on to then think that he's some sort and degree of math and physics expert, let alone critic.

And the thing that I'll never get over is how sensitive the meds cocktail you must keep in balance is. If just one thing is off, such as a bad lot of lithium from your pharmacy, the whole house of cards falls apart and then you're on here again posting gibberish non-stop for a while until things balance out. I never said anything about being a math and physics expert Mr. Straw Man. You know absolutely nothing about either however.

Grim/Bill/ThomasCline/Garnabby is streaky like Marathon Mission. He will post a bunch of bullshit in a fairly short window of time and then disappear for long stretches. The big difference between him and the Marathon Man are quality of posts. Grim we all could live without, his left field gibberish trash, that comes out of his anus. Marathon Man although he cares about nothing, is a fairly interesting knowledgeable character.

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But, the thing I will never get over is how Tablepooey tries to score points, to appear more appealing in your eyes. The guy with the penny slots wins, and, slots programming printouts, who goes on to then think that he's some sort and degree of math and physics expert, let alone critic.

And the thing that I'll never get over is how sensitive the meds cocktail you must keep in balance is. If just one thing is off, such as a bad lot of lithium from your pharmacy, the whole house of cards falls apart and then you're on here again posting gibberish non-stop for a while until things balance out. I never said anything about being a math and physics expert Mr. Straw Man. You know absolutely nothing about either however.

Grim/Bill/ThomasCline/Garnabby is streaky like Marathon Mission. He will post a bunch of bullshit in a fairly short window of time and then disappear for long stretches. The big difference between him and the Marathon Man are quality of posts. Grim we all could live without, his left field gibberish trash, that comes out of his anus. Marathon Man although he cares about nothing, is a fairly interesting knowledgeable character.

Well stated Ozzy - totally agree.

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Next USER NAME for Bill Yung should be Lying Fuck... that would be a fun view for me when I log in.
Hey Lying Fuck... how's it going?
Love It!

The giveaway will be one of the following:
1) Usage of an anagram solver in post #1 of the new alias
2) Willful withholding of anagram solver usage (for disguising purposes) until post #8, but with growing amounts of new age gibberish until the fateful post #8

[mickeycrimm]

Ditz wrote:

"I'm saying he spends his days bitching and moaning about some African American women getting WIC while we're all sharing a tab to keep a decades-long alcoholic alive. Those "lazy" urban women he considers to be sucking on the government teat, even though they are young and healthy and raising children. Mickey, meanwhile, has abused his body with a drug for decades and considers it his right to hit up the government (i.e. all of us) to prop up his body for the duration.

That's hypocrisy. Mickey's displayed decades-long irresponsibility. He wants some say in who gets what he calls welfare. I'd like some say in where my tax dollars go, too, and not into keeping aged alcoholics alive for little good reason.

I haven't spent one cent of any social security medical benefits. The system, unfortunately, is a shared one. So I'm picking up mickey's tab. As a conservative, he should just reap what he's sown and not stick everyone else with the bill."




Do you file as a professional gambler, Ditz? You've never written about that.

Do you even file at all?

How much have you paid into SS?

Pretty easy for a sportsbettor to pencil the IRS isn't it? You know some shit about W2-G signers. Why would that be? What underhanded shit are you involved in?

You're covering up a lot of shit aren't you?

YOU ARE HIDING SOMETHING, DITZ. Most everyone on here has written about their retirement circumstances.. But not you. Why all the secrecy? What are you hiding?

You're as phony as a three dollar bill, Ditz. You ain't paying jackshit for me because you never paid a dime into SS.

How old are you, Ditz? That's a no brainer for you. Tell us how old you are. Are you going to continue to coverup your age while the rest of us have admitted our ages.

Most Americans can say they never used SS so you ain't anything special. But you are to stupid to know they ain't old enough yet. Are you old enough?

Are you saying you've been paying into SS for 40 years but you don't plan to ever collect any benefits? Is that what you are saying, Ditz? Please, make us that promise, dimwit.

I've triggered the shit out of you. To the point you are making shit up to continue your false narrative. I've never said jackshit about WIC, you stupid lying motherfucker. I never said anything about black urban women, you dumb motherfucker. YOU ARE THE ONE TALKING ALL THAT SHIT!

Since you want to bitch and moan about people on SS why don't you tell us all what you have paid into it? C'mon, chickenshit. Be Da Man. Or do you want to continue to coverup, snitch?

[Ozzy]

^^ I beleive Comrade is 63 years old.

[mickeycrimm]

Not that I care but I'm not sure the assumption that the average tax payer takes more out of SS than he puts in is correct (of course with proper adjustments for both inflation and the yield on whatever they park SS monies in).

The reason people call SS a Ponzi scheme is because of the demographic problem where the class of beneficiaries is growing in proportion to the class of tax payers. (I.e. the population is aging.)

Do you know that $100 invested in the S&P 500 in 1935 would be worth 900K today? People would hands down be much better off today if their money went into the stock market for 40 years than to SS. It's not even close.

Yet many people like ditz think SS recipients are freeloaders. But SS recipients actually got fucked. They were forced to give up 15% of their earnings to a very very very bad retirement system. SS grows only with the inflation rate while stocks grow 7% to 10% a year long term. You would think someone like ditz could figure out that people paying into SS are getting fucked.

[mickeycrimm]

^^ I beleive Comrade is 63 years old.

I didn't collect SS at 63. I planned to wait until 70 but filed at 66 shortly after my heart attack.

When I was 63, 64, 65, I didn't bitch about what other people were doing with SS. I don't know why ditz is suck a crybaby about it.

ditz' problem is he thinks his health is never going to deteriorate. He'll find out soon enough.

[mickeycrimm]

Some interesting facts about Social Security:

In 1935 there were only 8 million people over 60 out of 127 million. That's because people born about 1880 had a life expectancy of just 40 years. That's about 6%. In 2023 it's over 20%.

A person born in 1935 had a life expectancy of 61 years.

But you couldn't draw SS until you were 65.

SS worked pretty good in it's early days.

Dow Jones average in those days:

1929 before the crash 380
1930.... 244
1931.... 170
1932.... 41
1933....60
1934....100
1935....104
1936....144
1941....130
1954....334
1955....444

It took 26 years for the Dow Jones to return to pre 1929 levels.

So when Roosevelt took office in 1933 he knew the country needed a retirement system because so many old folks lived in stifling poverty. So why was the system designed for retirees to get money that workers paid in, then those workers, when they retired, got the money from the new workers, etc.

In hindsight the stock market was the bettor value. But people that lived thru the depression blamed the stock market. They hated the stock market. If Roosevelt would have proposed a retirement system based on the stock market he would have been tarred and feathered and ran out of town. He certainly wouldn't have been a 4 term president.

[kewlJ]

^^ I beleive Comrade is 63 years old.

I didn't collect SS at 63. I planned to wait until 70 but filed at 66 shortly after my heart attack.

When I was 63, 64, 65, I didn't bitch about what other people were doing with SS. I don't know why ditz is suck a crybaby about it.

ditz' problem is he thinks his health is never going to deteriorate. He'll find out soon enough.

Mickey, now that you are healthier, if you really want to go back to your original plan of waiting until 70, I believe there is a way to pay back benifits you have received and then you can start taking them again @ 70 at the higher rate.

You should look into that if that is what you prefer.