Viva (really nice guy - I have nothing against him) could learn a thing or two about interviews by watching that John Lear interview by Knapp. Thanks for the interview clip (I think I remember watching it a few years back) and detailed account of what you and your uncle saw. I'll add the Dr. Coleman doc to my youtube queue - thanks for the reco. The youtube channel Cadaber (https://www.youtube.com/@Cadaber) has various mysteries like disappearances and such and I have been listening to one of them (Mystery of David Glenn Lewis) - average but solid, the channel's podcasts might be worth a listen and these would seem to be from the "if you've got nothing better to listen to" bag.





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