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  1. #541
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Oh wait.
    I forgot.
    Anyone who took the shots or boosters has no protection now.
    The Efficacy has completely worn off and you're in no better shape than us unvaccinated.
    It's not a vaccine.
    It never was.
    I actually feel bad for the unvaccinated who got discriminated against and lost their jobs.
    Fuck Arnold Schwarzenegger and that "Fuck Your Freedom Mentality" that he and you all imposed on us.

    So flu shot isn't a vaccine? What is it? A scam?
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  2. #542
    Kewl before you sign anything, how much would it cost for you to show someone in person indisputable evidence that this is in fact all true?
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  3. #543
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Kewl before you sign anything, how much would it cost for you to show someone in person indisputable evidence that this is in fact all true?

    It'll never happen, because he continues to make up lies upon lies. Now he's trying to breathe some fresh air into the lies he's already told.....just to appear as if he really wants to tell everyone everything--only we know he never will. Naming any casino in this fake case will instantly end him. Remember, when this all started I immediately explained exactly what the conclusion would be.

    It's what the weak and insignificant of his dopey generation do. They have no real life worth a spit, so they concoct one on the internet for the attention they crave. And if he can stretch this charade out a bit longer, you'll see him throw in some references to AI, which are the new buzzwords for those who want to appear as frontrunners, trail blazers, and leaders in their field. It's all about virtual reality with these psycho's.
    Last edited by Rob.Singer; 06-15-2023 at 10:37 PM.

  4. #544
    And don't forget--kew blabbed that he "told some of the AP's he knows who lurk on the streets of LV" all about this "incident". Of course, absolutely none of them will ever whisper a peep to anybody. He actually tried to pass that baloney off.

    Worse still is his alleging that casino personnel would waste their time reading this forum. How stupid does one have to be to WANT to think people who have real jobs in casinos would ever want to spend what little spare time they have reading the drama as concocted by the biggest liar on the internet!? And notice how kew threw Dan's name around in an effort to try and give some credibility to his latest whopper.

    I'm running out of popcorn.....

  5. #545
    What is my name Rob? We will wait while you check with your FBI nephew, or IRS brother-in-law or other made up sources, and since you referenced "the biggest liar on the internet", he are some photos for your viewing pleasure while we wait.


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  6. #546
    People that share real experiences, don't care who believes them or not. Especially among a handful of haters and trolls. I will try to clear something up, if I said something that appears to be misunderstood, or didn't explain something clearly, but you will NEVER see people sharing real experiences going to lengths that someone like you goes to with these kinds of phony pictures. You just won't!

    Trying this hard to convince people on the internet, just confirms you and your claims as a fake. It puts you in a class by yourself Rob, and I don't mean that as a compliment. These are just two examples of dozens Rob.

  7. #547
    .
    I've followed KJ's posts for years

    I'm only going to post re his discussion of BJ

    I was also a BJ AP for several years

    everything he has posted about BJ is 100% accurate and in a few instances he has informed me of things i didn't know about

    he has a great deal of knowledge about the game

    I believe there is about a ZERO chance that he is not what says he is re BJ
    .
    please don't feed the trolls

  8. #548
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    And don't forget--kew blabbed that he "told some of the AP's he knows who lurk on the streets of LV" all about this "incident". Of course, absolutely none of them will ever whisper a peep to anybody. He actually tried to pass that baloney off.

    Worse still is his alleging that casino personnel would waste their time reading this forum. How stupid does one have to be to WANT to think people who have real jobs in casinos would ever want to spend what little spare time they have reading the drama as concocted by the biggest liar on the internet!? And notice how kew threw Dan's name around in an effort to try and give some credibility to his latest whopper.

    I'm running out of popcorn.....
    It's not like the casinos have dedicated people sitting around reading forums all day looking for APs or AP stuff. It's not in the Management handbook as a part of their job description. It kinda goes like this...

    You have people that work in the casinos/casino industry, people who have an interest in Gambling and or AP stuff, even outside their work, it may not have anything to do with Advantage Play they are looking for. They too have Google and find the same forums we do. There might be a bored surveillance guy, A security guard, a Slot employee, a Pit Boss. Perhaps they AP stuff on the side.

    They see something that catches their eye and share that information with their boss and coworkers. We know for fact promotions have been changed or canceled as a direct result of TMI on forums and podcasts or whatever.

    This has been going on since Skips page(Now VPFree) There was a casino manager who used that forum to foil Advantage Play. He admitted it and people who he was.

    Do I think KJ's turn of events had anything to do with the forums? Nope, I just think they forgot to add it in the first place and realized it. I have heard of something similar happening recently. It's probably the same place LOL.

    Now I have a question for Mr. V or anyone who knows. What if KJ already told his friend or a family member all the details, what's to stop them from writing or talking about it once he signs off on the agreement?
    Last edited by AxelWolf; 06-16-2023 at 03:45 AM.

  9. #549
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    And don't forget--kew blabbed that he "told some of the AP's he knows who lurk on the streets of LV" all about this "incident". Of course, absolutely none of them will ever whisper a peep to anybody. He actually tried to pass that baloney off.

    Worse still is his alleging that casino personnel would waste their time reading this forum. How stupid does one have to be to WANT to think people who have real jobs in casinos would ever want to spend what little spare time they have reading the drama as concocted by the biggest liar on the internet!? And notice how kew threw Dan's name around in an effort to try and give some credibility to his latest whopper.

    I'm running out of popcorn.....
    It's not like the casinos have dedicated people sitting around reading forums all day looking for APs or AP stuff. It's not in the Management handbook as a part of their job description. It kinda goes like this...

    You have people that work in the casinos/casino industry, people who have an interest in Gambling and or AP stuff, even outside their work, it may not have anything to do with Advantage Play they are looking for. They too have Google and find the same forums we do. There might be a bored surveillance guy, A security guard, a Slot employee, a Pit Boss. Perhaps they AP stuff on the side.

    They see something that catches their eye and share that information with their boss and coworkers. We know for fact promotions have been changed or canceled as a direct result of TMI on forums and podcasts or whatever.

    This has been going on since Skips page(Now VPFree) There was a casino manager who used that forum to foil Advantage Play. He admitted it and people who he was.

    Do I think KJ's turn of events had anything to do with the forums? Nope, I just think they forgot to add it in the first place and realized it. I have heard of something similar happening recently. It's probably the same place LOL.

    Now I have a question for Mr. V or anyone who knows. What if KJ already told his friend or a family member all the details, what's to stop them from writing or talking about it once he signs off on the agreement?
    That question is really what this episode has evolved into. But what's ignored is the anomaly of how or why in the world would an atty. like Nersesian not inform his plaintiff to talk or write nothing about such a case until the ink is dry and the check is cut? And most people would believe it somewhat strange when someone yaps so much about such an incident, yet acts as if releasing the CASE NUMBER is a death sentence.

    It makes no sense--a lawyer would drop the whole thing like a hot potato. It's curiously escaped the Clark County database thus far. What plaintiff would ever take the risk of ruining their chances by blabbing all about such a thing on forums just to get more attention?

    Of course, when somebody has high-up "friends" in MGM Corporate who bring over personal info on one of their customers in exchange for "candy" on Halloween, all bets are off
    Last edited by Rob.Singer; 06-16-2023 at 05:28 AM.

  10. #550
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    People that share real experiences, don't care who believes them or not. Especially among a handful of haters and trolls. I will try to clear something up, if I said something that appears to be misunderstood, or didn't explain something clearly, but you will NEVER see people sharing real experiences going to lengths that someone like you goes to with these kinds of phony pictures. You just won't!

    Trying this hard to convince people on the internet, just confirms you and your claims as a fake. It puts you in a class by yourself Rob, and I don't mean that as a compliment. These are just two examples of dozens Rob.
    Well kew--you don't see me trying to convince anybody about anything at this point in time. Opinions vary, and life happily goes on. However, isn't it a bit telling how you keep trying to convince everybody otherwise? If you were so sure of the truth, as I am, you'd simply just let it go.

    Comments about your phony lawsuit seem to irk you no end, as every single time, you appear to have the need to defend conflicting points brought up about it to the death, as if it came right out of a soap opera. Your fear that someone might be swayed by facts and common sense obviously terrifies you. You're as transparent as a jellyfish.

  11. #551
    BTW kew, you've painted yourself into a corner with this particular hoax. Civil suits are public knowledge. The plaintiff and defendant are both named. Should it not go to court due to a settlement being made, the details can remain sealed. And the media can and does report everything but the settlement details, with the defendant usually not admitting to fault.

    Someone as careless as you wouldn't have thought this out this far in advance. You keep yapping that you're "not allowed to identify the casino" but it is already in the public database in the filing you claim to have made. You also boasted about telling "certain AP friends you trust" all about the case. What if, as axel eludes to, THEY talk? Are you going to walk back even more of this fabrication like you have so many details after getting caught in multiple lies so far?

    How you gonna square all this short of disappearing in humiliation?

  12. #552
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post

    But what's ignored is the anomoly of how or why in the world would an atty. like Neesesian not inform his plaintiff to talk or write nothing about such a case until the ink is dry and the check is cut?

    It makes no sense--a lawyer would drop the whole thing like a hot potato.
    Yes, it is common practice for an attorney to ask their client to not talk about their case, however it's not always for the reason people believe. Of course, an attorney does not want their client to get locked into a statement that will later be used against them. A big reason in a case like this is the fact that attorney's do "steal" cases from one another. The more information a client puts out there, the more info a potential lawyer has to go by to evaluate the case.

    No lawyer would drop this case "like a hot potato". Attorney's live for this kind of case to "walk through the doors" of their office. If a case is worth a potential Million dollars at trial, a demand letter may get 300k, in which they make a cool 33% ($100k). The client can talk all they want, even though the lawyer may not like it, and it could potentially hurt their case, a Lawyer will not drop a case that is this lucrative.

    Also, Nersesian knows his clients are VERY LOYAL to him.


    A side note: Im sure most have seen or at least heard of these companies that will "front or loan" you money against a civil settlement. Yes, this is a very lucrative business, just from the loans itself, however this is NOT where they make their real money. Most would say, "Wow, 30% interest of nearly guaranteed money sounds great"...

    This is what they do during the application process for the loan:
    They ask you a "million" questions about the case and the potential settlement. So, are they doing this to ensure it is a solid case so the probability is high that the case will settle and they will be paid back the loan? Well sure! BUT, THEIR REAL INTENT IS TO STEAL YOUR CASE FROM YOUR ATTORNEY! They don't steal them all, they will simply give loans to most of them and cherry pick the really good ones to now represent you.

    "Sure we will give you a $30k loan against your settlement, but we need to represent you going forward"

    Is it illegal to give a loan only if the client allows you to represent him? It probably is, I'm not sure. They will just do this off the record.
    A cash strapped client will do almost anything for an instant 5 figure check.



    Now, as far as what KJ's attorney told him regarding what he can and can't say -- I have no idea.
    Last edited by PositiveVariance; 06-16-2023 at 09:04 AM.

  13. #553
    First, another update. Another bizarre little twist (from my perspective). The defendant's attorney has informed my attorney that if we are still in agreement with the original terms of the settlement, they will re-submit it to the court, stating that both sides are in full agreement. I told my attorney yes, to go forward with that. My response: WTF??!!?? I guess they tried to slip this new little requirement in, thinking there would be no objection. So when they resend the agreement to the court, I guess we will be back where we were on Monday before they pulled this shenanigan. I hope it doesn't delay anything.

    I think at this point I am not going to give any further update until I have the funds in my personal bank account. It is more of a superstitious, "I don't want to jinx anything" that that I can't talk about anything. I can talk about anything I want as long as I don't post a dollar amount of settlement or the name of the other party (casino).

    Now I read Axelwolf's fine post this morning. If I gave the impression that I think casinos have teams of IT people searching forums and social media, looking for information on AP's, I apologize. That is not what I think. I do think the Database companies do that to some extent. Maybe not teams, but they have a person or people reading forums, and social media. I actually know this for a fact, because a piece of information that Mdawg doxed me with showed up in my database file. The information was incorrect, and that serves as a marker as to where it came from.

    With the individual casinos, I think it is much more individual people that have an interest outside their official capacity. Some casino dealers and pit folks are actually part-time AP's or have an interest in advantage play themselves, ya know. My good friend that works the pit of a casino is a hobbyist, card counter. It was Dan Druff who once said in no uncertain terms there were casino personnel that at least occasionally read this forum. I assume that came from the IP addresses used.

    And finally, thank you to Half Smoke for the kind words. I am really happy that other counters have found value or something useful in my sharing some of my experiences and techniques. And I know it is more than just 1 or 2 that occasionally say so, because I do hear privately from some people that don't post publicly. So, there are lurkers, which again, is what Dan Druff said. Does that surprise anyone? Sharing some of my experiences hoping someone else might find some value is what I set out to do, so I am happy if that occurs even on a small scale. Unfortunately, on a forum like I am now on there aren't many active blackjack players. There are a few players that started with card counting, but have long since moved on to other AP stuff. And of course, there are a handful of trolls/haters that drown out everything else because they scream the loudest. THAT is VCT, as well as that other forum.
    Last edited by kewlJ; 06-16-2023 at 09:42 AM.

  14. #554
    Rob, You really know NOTHING about card counting, or advantage play. You prove that over and over and re-confirm with every new post. Your mind is that of a losing -EV player. And there is nothing wrong with that, except that you have tried for decades to convince everyone that is not what you are, when it is very evident and even more so every time you post, what you really are.

    Just stay in your lane old boy. And that lane is of a jealous, bitter, angry, life-long losing player, trolling players that win using math and real advantage play techniques.

  15. #555
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    First, another update. Another bizarre little twist (from my perspective). The defendant's attorney has informed my attorney that if we are still in agreement with the original terms of the settlement, they will re-submit it to the court, stating that both sides are in full agreement. I told my attorney yes, to go forward with that. My response: WTF??!!?? I guess they tried to slip this new little requirement in, thinking there would be no objection. So when they resend the agreement to the court, I guess we will be back where we were on Monday before they pulled this shenanigan. I hope it doesn't delay anything.

    I think at this point I am not going to give any further update until I have the funds in my personal bank account. It is more of a superstitious, "I don't want to jinx anything" that that I can't talk about anything. I can talk about anything I want as long as I don't post a dollar amount of settlement or the name of the other party (casino).

    Now I read Axelwolf's fine post this morning. If I gave the impression that I think casinos have teams of IT people searching forums and social media, looking for information on AP's, I apologize. That is not what I think. I do think the Database companies do that to some extent. Maybe not teams, but they have a person or people reading forums, and social media. I actually know this for a fact, because a piece of information that Mdawg doxed me with showed up in my database file. The information was incorrect, and that serves as a marker as to where it came from.

    With the individual casinos, I think it is much more individual people that have an interest outside their official capacity. Some casino dealers and pit folks are actually part-time AP's or have an interest in advantage play themselves, ya know. My good friend that works the pit of a casino is a hobbyist, card counter. It was Dan Druff who once said in no uncertain terms there were casino personnel that at least occasionally read this forum. I assume that came from the IP addresses used.

    And finally, thank you to Half Smoke for the kind words. I am really happy that other counters have found value or something useful in my sharing some of my experiences and techniques. And I know it is more than just 1 or 2 that occasionally say so, because I do hear privately from some people that don't post publicly. So, there are lurkers, which again, is what Dan Druff said. Does that surprise anyone? Sharing some of my experiences hoping someone else might find some value is what I set out to do, so I am happy if that occurs even on a small scale. Unfortunately, on a forum like I am now on there aren't many active blackjack players. There are a few players that started with card counting, but have long since moved on to other AP stuff. And of course, there are a handful of trolls/haters that drown out everything else because they scream the loudest. THAT is VCT, as well as that other forum.
    Here's a hint kew: nobody reads your long rambles (unless they have a nothing life like you). And here's another: I exposed all your bullshit this morning because you do nothing but lie while never offering evidence, pictures, or sensible replies. Example: what does my being or not being an AP or silly card counter have to do with your non-existent credibility? One might think you got off track because your wimpy feathers got ruffled.

    Then we have your fantasy about casino employees reading your gobs of non-stop nonsense on the forums. While someone may stumble over to here and find mickey's thread interesting and informative, unless they have no job or love forum-posting sweatshops as much as you do, they would leave as soon as they started reading your drama, lies, and unending BS.

  16. #556
    Originally Posted by Half Smoke View Post
    .
    I've followed KJ's posts for years

    I'm only going to post re his discussion of BJ

    I was also a BJ AP for several years

    everything he has posted about BJ is 100% accurate and in a few instances he has informed me of things i didn't know about

    he has a great deal of knowledge about the game

    I believe there is about a ZERO chance that he is not what says he is re BJ
    .
    I like your by-line. It's self-explanatory.

  17. #557
    Originally Posted by PositiveVariance View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post

    But what's ignored is the anomoly of how or why in the world would an atty. like Neesesian not inform his plaintiff to talk or write nothing about such a case until the ink is dry and the check is cut?

    It makes no sense--a lawyer would drop the whole thing like a hot potato.
    Yes, it is common practice for an attorney to ask their client to not talk about their case, however it's not always for the reason people believe. Of course, an attorney does not want their client to get locked into a statement that will later be used against them. A big reason in a case like this is the fact that attorney's do "steal" cases from one another. The more information a client puts out there, the more info a potential lawyer has to go by to evaluate the case.

    No lawyer would drop this case "like a hot potato". Attorney's live for this kind of case to "walk through the doors" of their office. If a case is worth a potential Million dollars at trial, a demand letter may get 300k, in which they make a cool 33% ($100k). The client can talk all they want, even though the lawyer may not like it, and it could potentially hurt their case, a Lawyer will not drop a case that is this lucrative.

    Also, Nersesian knows his clients are VERY LOYAL to him.


    A side note: Im sure most have seen or at least heard of these companies that will "front or loan" you money against a civil settlement. Yes, this is a very lucrative business, just from the loans itself, however this is NOT where they make their real money. Most would say, "Wow, 30% interest of nearly guaranteed money sounds great"...

    This is what they do during the application process for the loan:
    They ask you a "million" questions about the case and the potential settlement. So, are they doing this to ensure it is a solid case so the probability is high that the case will settle and they will be paid back the loan? Well sure! BUT, THEIR REAL INTENT IS TO STEAL YOUR CASE FROM YOUR ATTORNEY! They don't steal them all, they will simply give loans to most of them and cherry pick the really good ones to now represent you.

    "Sure we will give you a $30k loan against your settlement, but we need to represent you going forward"

    Is it illegal to give a loan only if the client allows you to represent him? It probably is, I'm not sure. They will just do this off the record.
    A cash strapped client will do almost anything for an instant 5 figure check.



    Now, as far as what KJ's attorney told him regarding what he can and can't say -- I have no idea.
    Everybody who is an AP can surely agree the advantage play in this scenario is to keep one's mouth shut until the job is done.

  18. #558
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Everybody who is an AP can surely agree the advantage play in this scenario is to keep one's mouth shut until the job is done.
    This is the kind of thing that makes me laugh out loud about the person who posts as Rob Singer. He thinks he is an expert on all things. Rob you are neither an attorney, nor know much about advantage play or advantage players, so you might want to just STFU.

    While that not talking publicly about a case might be good advise for most case, there are cases (not speaking of any case in particular), in which the defendant is a public company and the details of their wrong-doing (perhaps even video, ironically supplied by them), can be devastating to their public image, reputation and business. This is usually the kind of defendant that is very "motivated" to put such an incident behind them as quickly and quietly as they can. Knowing this is actually a big advantage to the plaintiff. You can make that work to your advantage.

    But again, you are way out of your element here, so you think it is like a guy being charged with a crime, where he is advised to keep his mouth shut.

    The only danger of me saying anything is revealing a strategy or path we are pursuing that would be better not revealed. Sort of "tipping off" your opponent as to your strategy. I have tried not to do that.

  19. #559
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Everybody who is an AP can surely agree the advantage play in this scenario is to keep one's mouth shut until the job is done.
    This is the kind of thing that makes me laugh out loud about the person who posts as Rob Singer. He thinks he is an expert on all things. Rob you are neither an attorney, nor know much about advantage play or advantage players, so you might want to just STFU.

    While that not talking publicly about a case might be good advise for most case, there are cases (not speaking of any case in particular), in which the defendant is a public company and the details of their wrong-doing (perhaps even video, ironically supplied by them), can be devastating to their public image, reputation and business. This is usually the kind of defendant that is very "motivated" to put such an incident behind them as quickly and quietly as they can. Knowing this is actually a big advantage to the plaintiff. You can make that work to your advantage.

    But again, you are way out of your element here, so you think it is like a guy being charged with a crime, where he is advised to keep his mouth shut.

    The only danger of me saying anything is revealing a strategy or path we are pursuing that would be better not revealed. Sort of "tipping off" your opponent as to your strategy. I have tried not to do that.
    You could easily reveal something that could hurt you in a civil suit without knowing any better. In general Rob is pretty spot on and he is also a far more entertaining bullshitter than you.
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  20. #560
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    In general Rob is pretty spot on and he is also a far more entertaining bullshitter than you.
    Happy to concede this. That is not, nor has ever been my purpose on any forum.

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