The Verdict Is?

[accountinquestion]

Now Axelwolf is pushing for me to not only put up proof which I can't and won't, but in true Axelwolf fashion, thinks there should be a wager involved.

I CANNOT do what you people are asking. To be honest, if I could I wouldn't based on my own principal that I have held since long before this incident, but that is moot. I CANNOT. On Attorney's advice. Are you people seriously suggesting I should ignore Attorney's advice in favor of internet forum trolling crap? Give me a break.

Do you expect to have any credibility on this forum going forward if you don't?

Oh wait - you don't care. Nevermind.

[MDawg]

A compulsive liar like UNKewlJ could no more fess up to lying as stop lying. And the only principle (-ple not -pal you uneducated twit) UNKewlJ follows is to keep on lying.

And anything in the public domain - such as all the details of this case which the compulsive liar just lied about seeing, could not be covered by any confidentiality agreement.

[AxelWolf]

My suggestion to KJ.

If true, it's easily proven. Designate an arbitrator/escrow such as Dan and another party.

Pass on any costs to the naysayers (PUT UP OR SHUT UP!)
It's simple, offer up 2,3,4 -10 to 1, or whatever his BR can handle, or perhaps he can get odds if he can prove a trifecta or whatever (?) that he can prove it. Take the bet once a predetermined total escrowed amount reaches an amount that would cover any liability and make it worthwhile for him to do so.

What the Fuck happened?
I thought you were gonna Shut the Fuck Up and go count cards?
Nope.
You're over here blabbing away again.
Must be drunk.

Aww, do you miss me, lover boy? I come to realize you actually had/have feelings for me, I'm sorry I hurt you, it wasn't intentional and I didn't realize I was doing it. You lashed out and wanted to hurt me. Sorry, I don't swing that way and my perception of you was way off. I am often fooled by the Frank Fitts(American Beauty) of this world

I never said that I was going to go count cards. I said, "Or do something productive". It's rare that I would attempt to count cards, I haven't in a very long time, perhaps in 2012 or so.

I did do something productive for a while for 6-7 hours, some even from the comfort of my home until I felt like vegging out being an internet degen( Would you like a full report?). You do realize you are telling me this like 24 hours later? It's not 2 ish on the 10th, it's 2ish on the 11th now. Are you on drugs/Drunk, you don't seem to be able to follow along well or know what day it is.

It's been a little while since I have been drunk. A few here and there, but that's about it, nothing juicy. Perhaps at the next shindig, I'll have a 3 finger and raise my glass and the middle one to you.

I am hopped up on a 5-hour energy drink getting ready to go get some exercise. Speaking of being productive, why are you here blabbing, Don't you have old ladies to harass or something?

And yes, I'm about to go be productive for a while. I'll see you here tonight, I'm looking forward to it.

[MisterV]

Are you people seriously suggesting I should ignore Attorney's advice in favor of internet forum trolling crap? Give me a break.

You don't deserve a break, alas and alack.

From now on, every word you post will receive Strict Scrutiny.

No doubt your detractors will continue to heap scorn upon you, while most of the others will either ignore you or limit their response.

The halcyon days of wine and roses have passed.

[Rob.Singer]

Ok, so first, I am NOT trying to discredit Maxpen, who I have always liked. But we all know he is not impeccable as far as telling the truth. He clearly says things about mickeycrimm that aren't true. And mickey returns the favor. I take max pen at his word that he is motivated by finding the truth and not personal, although I have to say calling someone a fraud, as he did, feels very personal to me.

So I spent several hours last night trying to find exactly what MaxPen looked up. On July 3 he posted he had no idea how to look anything up, and 3 days later was the an expert. So the link that he said he used didn't work, but I was able to navigate my way. I knew were to find the case "I was interested in" because I have the case number. And I know that is all you are going to see....a case number. No plaintiff. No defendant. No attorney's involved. That is all under seal.

So again I wanted to see what that would look like for someone searching through a boatload of cases rather than going directly to that case via case #.. I spent two hours last night. Would have taken the better part of a full day to search everything. But in those two hours I found not only the case "I was interested in", but two additional cases that showed ONLY a case number. No further information. So I assume these cases were also sealed. So just extrapolating this out for all the cases that Maxpen looked at he must have come up with 10-12 cases like this? So what did you do with these cases Maxpen, just toss them aside as irrelevant?

Again, I can't and wont talk about much more. I don't think my very general comments above violates that agreement or my own principal (based on advice). Just some food for thought.

So you stayed up all night to try and figure out a way to discredit max, without hurting his feelings, whom you've previously proclaimed was the end-all in searching for information.

Then you carry your confirmed hoax even further by pretending to have found your case on the same site max used (as well as several others here) incompetently--adding in another lie about what info's available for the public to see on a sealed case.

Kew, I know you're on the dopey side, but do you EVER look things up on the internet before you yap? This is as bad as you saying "On the advice of my attorney, I'm not saying anything further about this because it could get me in trouble"....over and over again, after you keep coming on to lie about the record.

There are some really stupid people in this world, and then there are high school dropouts like yourself. No wonder you're so insecure in your own skin. And now you'll have to spend the rest of your days being laughed at and being broke.

[kewlJ]

Now I am late to the party, because I actually had to work today. Well didn't have to...as an AP (self employed) I never have to. But an AP friend shared some very low-level very simple, low end stuff that I could do while getting my feet wet. It was time to get to that. And I gotta say....only 1 day, although I have done some machine stuff before, but I absolutely hate this kind of AP. Maybe it will grow on me. Maybe you don't have to like what you do as I am sure there are many working people that don't like what they do. Maybe I have been spoiled because I always did like playing blackjack, or at least most of the time. Anyway we will see what happens with that.

But it got me thinking about this forum compared to where I started 16 years ago on a blackjack forum called Blackjackinfo. the original Blackjackinfo, owned by blackjack tournament player Ken Smith, not the current re-incarnated version. At that time there were still a lot of APs playing blackjack, both hole-carding and card counting. Known players. Expert players. Several members of the MIT team(s), Colin, Tommy Hyland, Munchkin, Al Rogers, Gramazaka who runs teams overseas. Norm (more the software expert than player, although very knowledgeable about blackjack), Automatic Monkey, Icountandtrac, a very proficient card counter. So many others, both professional and recreational that really knew their stuff. I don't remember a jbjb or a JBS, but I am sure you were there under some handle.

For me, THIS was were I really learned how to win. the haters here say I repeat things from the blackjack books. Wrong! (they are always wrong). This is where my knowledge came from...other players sharing their experiences.

Now here is what I don't remember. I don't remember anyone ever challenging anything someone said to the point of demanding proof, or tax returns, or screenshots of bank accounts. That just wasn't even necessary. Why? Because it took but a few minutes to figure who knew what they were talking about. And yes, we had JSTAT on that forum, spouting his conspiracy non-sense that Ed thorp made a mistake in his book.

So I found myself wondering....how did I get from there to here. A forum where it is all trolling. All prove this and prove that, instead of figuring out who knows what they are talking about. And here, even if you figure out who knows what they are talking about, there are groups that try to discredit them, because "they don't like them", don't like their lifestyle or some other personal thing or perhaps find them "condescending".

The next question is why would I have stayed on a forum like this. yeah, I have done my share of trolling. It can be entertaining for a short while. But the trolls here are lifers. Am I a lifer or to become a lifer (troll).

And if the answer is yes...then WHY? Seriously, the past several years has cost me money because a troll hater doxed me and may have provided information directly to casinos or database company (probably casinos). The number I put on that is probably about 100k. That is the price I have paid for continuing on at this forum (and GF). $100,000.

I know there will be all kinds of stupid comments. Hateful comments. beginning with the lifer troll hater that posts as Rob Singer. Most, not all, but most of you people are nuts. And I must be 10x as nuts for having stayed.

PS. In thinking about the old blackjackinfo, there was a member there named machinist. And you might guess he wasn't a blackjack player, or at least primarily a blackjack player. He was a machine specialist AP. A mickeycrimm type. Machinist was the first one of those I actually became aware of. Him and mickey would have had a lot to talk about. The only reason I am relatively sure Machinist wasn't mickey is that Machinist was based in the southern states. Just wondering mickey, have you ever encountered a player that went by machinist on forums? Or perhaps you know him or of him?

[Rob.Singer]

Now I am late to the party, because I actually had to work today. Well didn't have to...as an AP (self employed) I never have to. But an AP friend shared some very low-level very simple, low end stuff that I could do while getting my feet wet. It was time to get to that. And I gotta say....only 1 day, although I have done some machine stuff before, but I absolutely hate this kind of AP. Maybe it will grow on me. Maybe you don't have to like what you do as I am sure there are many working people that don't like what they do. Maybe I have been spoiled because I always did like playing blackjack, or at least most of the time. Anyway we will see what happens with that.

But it got me thinking about this forum compared to where I started 16 years ago on a blackjack forum called Blackjackinfo. the original Blackjackinfo, owned by blackjack tournament player Ken Smith, not the current re-incarnated version. At that time there were still a lot of APs playing blackjack, both hole-carding and card counting. Known players. Expert players. Several members of the MIT team(s), Colin, Tommy Hyland, Munchkin, Al Rogers, Gramazaka who runs teams overseas. Norm (more the software expert than player, although very knowledgeable about blackjack), Automatic Monkey, Icountandtrac, a very proficient card counter. So many others, both professional and recreational that really knew their stuff. I don't remember a jbjb or a JBS, but I am sure you were there under some handle.

For me, THIS was were I really learned how to win. the haters here say I repeat things from the blackjack books. Wrong! (they are always wrong). This is where my knowledge came from...other players sharing their experiences.

Now here is what I don't remember. I don't remember anyone ever challenging anything someone said to the point of demanding proof, or tax returns, or screenshots of bank accounts. That just wasn't even necessary. Why? Because it too but a few minutes to figure who knew what they were talking about. And yes, we had JSTAT on that forum, spouting his conspiracy non-sense that Ed thorp made a mistake in his book.

So I found myself wondering....how did I get from there to here. A forum where it is all trolling. All prove this and prove that, instead of figuring out who knows what they are taking about. And here, even if you figure out who knows what they are talking about, there are groups that try to discredit them, because "they don't like them", don't like their lifestyle or some other personal thing or perhaps find them "condescending".

The next question is why would I have stayed on a forum like this. yeah, I have done my share of trolling. It can be entertaining for a short while. But the trolls here are lifers. Am I a lifer or to become a lifer (troll).

And if the answer is yes...then WHY? Seriously, the past several years has cost me money because a troll hater doxed my and may have provided information directly to casinos or database company (probably casinos). The number I put on that is probably about 100k. That is the price I have paid for continuing on at this forum (and GF). $100,000.

I know there will be all kinds of stupid comments. Hateful comments. beginning with the lifer troll hater that posts as Rob Singer. Most, not all, but most of you people are nuts. And I must be 10x as nuts for having stayed.

PS. In thinking about the old blackjackinfo, there was a member there named machinist. And you might guess he wasn't a blackjack player, or at least primarily a blackjack player. He was a machine specialist AP. A mickeycrimm type. Machinist was the first one of those I actually became aware of. Him and mickey would have had a lot to talk about. The only reason I am relatively sure Machinist wasn't mickey is that Machinist was b sed in the southern states.

More proof you're an idiot and a liar.

Who makes long rambling posts like this other than guilty people? And in case you're too thick or shocked to understand, there's NO ONE you're ever gonna convince of you being a success of any kind playing BJ.

[MisterV]

Now here is what I don't remember. I don't remember anyone ever challenging anything someone said to the point of demanding proof, or tax returns, or screenshots of bank accounts. That just wasn't even necessary. Why? Because it took but a few minutes to figure who knew what they were talking about.
So I found myself wondering....how did I get from there to here. A forum where it is all trolling. All prove this and prove that, instead of figuring out who knows what they are talking about. And here, even if you figure out who knows what they are talking about, there are groups that try to discredit them, because "they don't like them", don't like their lifestyle or some other personal thing or perhaps find them "condescending"

Quit playing the victim, that train left the station some time ago.

You wonder why people demand proof?

Really?

KJ, you specifically posted that a lawsuit had been filed.

We looked for it and ... *crickets*

When a woman "teases' a man she should not complain when he calls her a fucking cunt.

[kewlJ]

Rob, I am not a high school drop out. Nor do I live with my mother, who resides in a very nice adult over 50 community. Nor am I broke. You know this. Everyone knows this. That you and someone like Mdawg are so insecure that you repeat things you know are not true...is beyond sad. This is what makes you a lifer.

I have never tried to "convince" anyone of anything regarding my blackjack/AP play. I have simply shared some of my experiences and journey. No doubt in more detail than I ever should have. I have shared years that I made 10k (my first 3 years), a year in 2012 I think that I made 27k. Covid year where I made less than 14k from blackjack. Is that really a guy out to impress anybody?

That is just the way card counting and variance works. Good years. Bad years. And actually, my style of play almost invited more variance than most players dealt with because I used very different spreads and Max bets. I was never afraid of the variance. The only time Variance could have really hurt me, was my first few years in Atlantic City. A bad run would have wiped me out. But those games were so bad, that the max bets opportunities actually came around so infrequently, it created a less volatile game. Less EV, but less variance. I didn't know it at the time but that was a good trade off for that situation....a player playing underfunded. I am sure you don't care. You care about trolling and lying about me. So have at it.

[tableplay]

But, surely, what I do can't compel you to act in particular ways. That's a level of internet dominance that even I didn't anticipate. Regardless, you and Monet come off more as "turtles all the way down".

Well you are compelled to reply to my replies, so you speak of your own puppet strings as well.

[Rob.Singer]

Although most people have already looked this up on the Nevada court site, here it is again, once again even while kew so desperately tries to convince everybody of his lies by sprinkling in multiple unimportant little items about his non-existent case here and there, he keeps pretending we're all as stupid as him.

(c)Sealing of entire court file prohibited Under no circumstances shall the court seal an entire court file. An order entered under these rules must, at a minimum, require that the following information is available for public viewing on court indices:
(i) the case number(s) or docket code(s) or number(s);
(ii) the date that the action was commenced;
(iii) the names of the parties, counsel of record, and the assigned judge;

There's plenty more, but this'll give the serial liar enuf to try and make new lies up.

[tableplay]

Einstein was the last of the famous physicists to be a philosopher

Sean Carroll is an example of this - he is now at Johns Hopkins by way of Cal Tech.

[kewlJ]

I canNOT talk about the case specifically, but here the general rule. Please note the part where compelling privacy or safety interests outweigh the public interest. It takes a judge to determine that.

I can NOT get into this, but you are talking about something you don't undertstand like YOU, Rob always do.

4.Grounds to seal or redact; written findings required. The court may order the court files and records, or any part thereof, in a civil action to be sealed or redacted, provided the court makes and enters written findings that the specific sealing or redaction is justified by identified compelling privacy or safety interests that outweigh the public interest in access to the court record.

[kewlJ]

I gotta stop. I am going to be 'scolded' again. Fuck you guys and your internet trolling shit.

[Treeshade]

Now I am late to the party, because I actually had to work today. Well didn't have to...as an AP (self employed) I never have to. But an AP friend shared some very low-level very simple, low end stuff that I could do while getting my feet wet. It was time to get to that. And I gotta say....only 1 day, although I have done some machine stuff before, but I absolutely hate this kind of AP. Maybe it will grow on me. Maybe you don't have to like what you do as I am sure there are many working people that don't like what they do. Maybe I have been spoiled because I always did like playing blackjack, or at least most of the time. Anyway we will see what happens with that.

But it got me thinking about this forum compared to where I started 16 years ago on a blackjack forum called Blackjackinfo. the original Blackjackinfo, owned by blackjack tournament player Ken Smith, not the current re-incarnated version. At that time there were still a lot of APs playing blackjack, both hole-carding and card counting. Known players. Expert players. Several members of the MIT team(s), Colin, Tommy Hyland, Munchkin, Al Rogers, Gramazaka who runs teams overseas. Norm (more the software expert than player, although very knowledgeable about blackjack), Automatic Monkey, Icountandtrac, a very proficient card counter. So many others, both professional and recreational that really knew their stuff. I don't remember a jbjb or a JBS, but I am sure you were there under some handle.

For me, THIS was were I really learned how to win. the haters here say I repeat things from the blackjack books. Wrong! (they are always wrong). This is where my knowledge came from...other players sharing their experiences.

Now here is what I don't remember. I don't remember anyone ever challenging anything someone said to the point of demanding proof, or tax returns, or screenshots of bank accounts. That just wasn't even necessary. Why? Because it took but a few minutes to figure who knew what they were talking about. And yes, we had JSTAT on that forum, spouting his conspiracy non-sense that Ed thorp made a mistake in his book.

So I found myself wondering....how did I get from there to here. A forum where it is all trolling. All prove this and prove that, instead of figuring out who knows what they are talking about. And here, even if you figure out who knows what they are talking about, there are groups that try to discredit them, because "they don't like them", don't like their lifestyle or some other personal thing or perhaps find them "condescending".

The next question is why would I have stayed on a forum like this. yeah, I have done my share of trolling. It can be entertaining for a short while. But the trolls here are lifers. Am I a lifer or to become a lifer (troll).

And if the answer is yes...then WHY? Seriously, the past several years has cost me money because a troll hater doxed me and may have provided information directly to casinos or database company (probably casinos). The number I put on that is probably about 100k. That is the price I have paid for continuing on at this forum (and GF). $100,000.

I know there will be all kinds of stupid comments. Hateful comments. beginning with the lifer troll hater that posts as Rob Singer. Most, not all, but most of you people are nuts. And I must be 10x as nuts for having stayed.

PS. In thinking about the old blackjackinfo, there was a member there named machinist. And you might guess he wasn't a blackjack player, or at least primarily a blackjack player. He was a machine specialist AP. A mickeycrimm type. Machinist was the first one of those I actually became aware of. Him and mickey would have had a lot to talk about. The only reason I am relatively sure Machinist wasn't mickey is that Machinist was based in the southern states. Just wondering mickey, have you ever encountered a player that went by machinist on forums? Or perhaps you know him or of him?

Listen Skunk Guts no one believes anything you say because you have lied about everything and everyone going back a decade.

Own up to what you really are. We can’t help that you got Crossed up by neighbor guy as a teen.

[accountinquestion]

I gotta stop. I am going to be 'scolded' again. Fuck you guys and your internet trolling shit.

Well you need to stop. Not sure who is scolding you.

You are uniquely pathetic.

Lol breaking your arm from the security guard pushing you into a chair.

Mr Brittle Bones.

I pegged this as bullshit from the get-go. lolz.

[MDawg]

This

came up with the lie that the case had been sealed because he thought it would explain why MaxPen was never going to be able to find it.

The time has come. I was hoping to drag this out a little further and have you 2 idiots (Singer & Mdawg) chasing and looking for something that they couldn't possibly find. I really enjoyed that. I didn't anticipate MaxPen getting involved as I wouldn't have wanted to waste his time.

This case is sealed, at BOTH parties request. That means it is NOT public information, unless an interested party can prove to the court they have a legitimate interest in the case.

But thanks for screwing up a good trolling effort to have these guys on a scavenger hunt that they couldn't succeed at. I could have watched these two going on and on about "no case to be found" for months...or probably years.

But this type of case would almost never be sealed in the first place - just by trying to claim that it was he didn't even realize that he was further confirming that he made all of this up. And even if it had been sealed, the full docket would still be public record.

Today, UNKewlJ did not find record of his made up case, or any other case that had been sealed. He didn't even look, he just came up with some more nonsense, not realizing, again, that the

Over all problem is that this fucking idiot thinks that everyone is as stupid as he is.

This dumb lie here:

So I spent several hours last night trying to find exactly what MaxPen looked up. On July 3 he posted he had no idea how to look anything up, and 3 days later was the an expert. So the link that he said he used didn't work, but I was able to navigate my way. I knew were to find the case "I was interested in" because I have the case number. And I know that is all you are going to see....a case number. No plaintiff. No defendant. No attorney's involved. That is all under seal.

So again I wanted to see what that would look like for someone searching through a boatload of cases rather than going directly to that case via case #.. I spent two hours last night. Would have taken the better part of a full day to search everything. But in those two hours I found not only the case "I was interested in", but two additional cases that showed ONLY a case number.

contradicts the law since 2008, that provides that the full docket must be provided for any case, sealed or not.
Rule 3
4(c) Sealing of entire court file prohibited.  Under no circumstances shall the court seal an entire court file. An order entered under these rules must, at a minimum, require that the following information is available for public viewing on court indices: (i) the case number(s) or docket code(s) or number(s); (ii) the date that the action was commenced; (iii) the names of the parties, counsel of record, and the assigned judge; (iv) the notation “case sealed”; (v) the case type and cause(s) of action, which may be obtained from the Civil Cover Sheet; (vi) the order to seal and written findings supporting the order; and (vii) the identity of the party or other person who filed the motion to seal.

V, can you weigh in here please? Here we have a further verifiable lie from the compulsive liar - that he found this recent case the one he claims is his with ONLY the case # listed, and no parties. In fact, ask the compulsive liar to give us the court case #s of the two recent civil cases he found today that have only the case # listed? Those cases have nothing to do with him, so he could provide those could he not?

Seriously, that $200. would have been well spent.

Next time you want to tell a whopper, talk to me and lets walk through it. I'll only charge you $200.

[kewlJ]

Lol breaking your arm from the security guard pushing you into a chair.

Mr Brittle Bones.

Dude, you say a lot of really stupid things, both about me and unrelated to me. I don't comment on most. But this thing that you keep repeating has to be one of the stupidest.

[soxfan]

Hmmm, I wonder who has more credibilities, the kewl-J or that illegitimate, election-stealing, constitution trashing, dementia-ridden, corrupt, compromised, influence peddling, chinks-loving traitor, beijing-biden, hey hey????

[MisterV]

recent[/B] civil cases he found today that have only the case # listed? Those cases have nothing to do with him, so he could provide those could he not?S

It seems that no record of his case being filed in Clark county can be found: that seems to be quite clear, at least based on what some sletuths have posted.

BUT (and it's a big but) as I speculated some time ago, what if his attorney filed in Federal, not county court?

Would the database(s) searched find such a filing?

As for the feds having subject matter jurisdiction, i.e. for them to have the ability to hear his case, there needs to be a recognized ground.

Perhaps diversity of citizenship, i.e. not all parties are deemed to be Nevada residents?

That seems unlikely, but if the casino is owned by a corporation in another state then it MIGHT apply, I'm not sure.

Or the guard could be a non-citzen, working at the casino on a green card or the equivalent, but again I am not sure.

The PI cases I filed were all in the county court system, not the federal: federal practice is a whole different thing.

I'd prefer to have the case exist than to conclude KJ lied to me; not that he owes me the truth, but I really wouldn't like it at all.