The Verdict Is?

[MDawg]

The thing about KJ - if you actually read what he writes - is that he constantly echoes the words/phrases and themes of the immediately previous replies by others. As I noted, a while back, he's extremely suggestible. Not someone in control of even his own life. People don't always end up in places like Vegas by their own conscious volition. My guess would be some nut-job living from one day to the next, now on the internet. Certainly of negligible intelligence, etc.

That's what I pointed out long ago - that anything he accuses others of, he himself is guilty of, far worse.

Negligible intelligence is obvious - the mere fact that he must think that this constantly changing fable would somehow explain itself, is telling. Nut-job, that's a given.

Consider just the fact that UNKewlJ can't even control himself when it comes to declaring that he will never post again at forums.

It is therefore inconceivable that he is in control of his compulsive lying when it comes to anything. Been lying since day one at the forums. The five most major ones I can think of concern (1) his lie about Moses showing up at a condo he claimed he lived at, (2) a condo it turned out that he has no ownership in, (3) his faking his own death, (4) the nonsense about MGM execs showing up at his apartment on Halloween to give him player records on someone who isn't even MDawg, and (5) the backrooming lawsuit.

As well it's clear now that he was never much of a blackjack player, at least never supported himself from that. SeedValue's investigation was correct, and what MaxPen saw, UNKewlJ playing low end red to green in the company of a sugar daddy, makes sense.

In the end:

Everything and anything he has ever said will come into question and years of his forum adventures in BJ and life will be labeled as fiction.

Or as Wizard put it, If the totality of one's posts is one huge lie, then it becomes trolling.

[MisterV]

So the only regret is that I lied to MrV towards the end. Despite what some of you trolls always say about him and smoking pot and all, MrV seems like a good guy, and I like him, so that sucked. Sorry. V.

KJ, while I admit to still being confused it is not important enough to me to warrant consigning you to the slag heap.

Thanks for "owing up" and apologizing: all is forgiven.

[MDawg]

all is forgiven.

V, people like you are UNKewlJ's bread and butter! He just has to find them on the Strip not online.

[MaxPen]

He would have been better off confessing that he was trying to troll. The fact that he is trying to stick with the event actually happening just makes him look like an idiot.

[MDawg]

True.

If people go back and look at your last few stories they will see a trend in you always changing the story after you get caught lying.

RIP.

[Gottlob1]

all is forgiven.

V, people like you are UNKewlJ's bread and butter! He just has to find them on the Strip not online.

The reason that, after a point, a few replies, it's best to just drop it entirely. Again, I can understand V's many simple "needs", but, it's a bit more complicated with the others, if they are who they claim to be.

[MisterV]

I am "forgiving" KJ because he apologized AND his calumny was kind of fun to run with and disprove.

KJ certainly isn't the first forum member to be caught in a lie.

Lying is endemic: remember being royally mind-fucked as a kid by your parents and society as a whole about "Santa Claus?"

Was KJ's a successful troll?

Tough to say, actually: it got A LOT of attention and made us sharpen up our game a bit.

I still believe KJ is probably a decent man "in real life" as well as on these forums.

And no, Seevalue, I ain't sucking his dick, I'm simply trying to go along to get along: sort of a "new leaf" for me.

[accountinquestion]

Apparently, the physician among us, AccountinQuestion says there is no way a fractured arm could occur when an arm forcibly comes in contact with a metal desk. I don't know what physics course or books this guy read, but yes, arm vs metal desk, arm will always lose. It wasn't a compound fracture where the bone is broken all the way through and dangling. It was a fracture. Look up fracture, Dr AinQ.

But the fractured arm wasn't the big issue which lead to my payday. It was the illegal and unnecessary back-rooming. Illegal detention.

A Dr. wouldn't know anymore than an intelligent lay person who has lived and understands life. Drs aren't learning how much force it takes to fracture an arm and what is necessary to create that force.

If you can name any other backrooming incident that resulted in a fracture .. I'm ears.

Also - coming from a guy who has worked in offices and such - I have never know a desk to have a metal top. I don't feel that makes much difference but sounds like a manufactured detail.

If the payday was for the other things then how was it illegal and such when you volunteered to go there with him? Where are the details of where you tried to leave and were held there with some form of force? Is that when you broke the arm? Illegal backrooming is grounds for a lawsuit? "Unnecessary backrooming"? What sort of cause is that???

Come'on dude. Drop the horse shit. This is just another failed attempt to save face. Just like going through all the records. Then people (lol) point out you could show one of these sealed cases. You couldn't. You knew that was going absolutely no where so you backed up and made a new version.

You sir, are a compulsive liar.

I'm still not understanding why you needed to invent the court case

How did the California AP know about the case to begin with? You didn't share it. Did he know a MGM executive who heard through the grapevine?

Basically the reason you shared the story was to validate your need to be a "fellow AP". You thought this would be a step in that direction. Oh yea, and you are a compulsive liar.

I can't think of anything that would lead you to lie about a courtcase being won to cover it up. (lol it has passed !) None of this makes sense but of course in true Kewl fashion, you have some sort of details you can't go into. Can't find anyone to vouch for you supporting yourself counting.. just years of stories and claiming you support yourself.

lol

[MDawg]

V - Still, if you're saying, Thanks for admitting you lied...about everything.

That's one thing.

But if you're saying, "Now I believe you, the incident really did happen."

Quite another.

[soxfan]

Bbbbbwwwwwaaaaahhhhh, so the kewl-J was COMPELLED to lie about his backed-room narrative by some unseen, irresistible force. No doubt that was the same unseen, irresistible force what compel him to fake his own death! What a coconut, hey hey!!!!

[Gottlob1]

Add MDawg, and Max, to your list of coconuts. Have fun, guys. Far better stuff to do (than waste time with the V's and KJ's of the world.)

[soxfan]

Add MDawg, and Max, to your list of coconuts. Have fun, guys. Far better stuff to do (than waste time with the V's and KJ's of the world.)

I do hope that you will put in some times and try to de-cipher that Voynich Manuscripts, hey hey.

[MDawg]

Well, yes, think about it, we're wasting all this time picking apart a compulsive liar's lies, convincing ourselves that it is amusing enough to make it worth the time spent. And in general when it comes to forums, it is easy to run down the rabbit hole of Making a Point.

But this guy, his entire adult life has been spent for years and years now trying desperately to promote a concocted narrative / existence.

As AccountInQuestion has put it: Neverending quest for street creds on the internet

The thing about KJ - if you actually read what he writes - is that he constantly echoes the words/phrases and themes of the immediately previous replies by others. As I noted, a while back, he's extremely suggestible. Not someone in control of even his own life. People don't always end up in places like Vegas by their own conscious volition. My guess would be some nut-job living from one day to the next, now on the internet. Certainly of negligible intelligence, etc.

[accountinquestion]

Well, yes, think about it, we're wasting all this time picking apart a compulsive liar's lies, convincing ourselves that it is amusing enough to make it worth the time spent. And in general when it comes to forums, it is easy to run down the rabbit hole of Making a Point.

But this guy, his entire adult life has been spent for years and years now trying desperately to promote a concocted narrative / existence.

As AccountInQuestion has put it: Neverending quest for street creds on the internet

The thing about KJ - if you actually read what he writes - is that he constantly echoes the words/phrases and themes of the immediately previous replies by others. As I noted, a while back, he's extremely suggestible. Not someone in control of even his own life. People don't always end up in places like Vegas by their own conscious volition. My guess would be some nut-job living from one day to the next, now on the internet. Certainly of negligible intelligence, etc.

Who fucking cares what people do in their free time? One can look from the outside and say we're all weirdos but most people just watch shit TV or sports or something else that they have absolutely nothing to do with.

Like it or not, Kewl is part of our community and we're just doing to him what he has claimed to be his objective for years.

BTW Mdawg - It is wonderful to be here with you.

[Gottlob1]

Add MDawg, and Max, to your list of coconuts. Have fun, guys. Far better stuff to do (than waste time with the V's and KJ's of the world.)

I do hope that you will put in some times and try to de-cipher that Voynich Manuscripts, hey hey.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not going away (from threads like this one) "mad". On the contrary, I get a kick out of supposedly clever people shitting away what's left of their lives. Especially, V with his many simple "needs".

As for the Voynich stuff, I'm having the time of my life, right now, leisurely going through a few more of the universal constants, in terms of how I write out the numerals. People will think what they want of that, too, but, it can no longer matter.

[smurgerburger]

Man what a great thread this turned out to be.

[Gottlob1]

Like it or not, Kewl is part of our community and we're just doing to him what he has claimed to be his objective for years.

The best way to do that would be to actually drop it. You're not doing him, either, any favors by prolonging the inevitable.

[MDawg]

Who fucking cares what people do in their free time? One can look from the outside and say we're all weirdos but most people just watch shit TV or sports or something else that they have absolutely nothing to do with.

Like it or not, Kewl is part of our community and we're just doing to him what he has claimed to be his objective for years.

BTW Mdawg - It is wonderful to be here with you.

Thanks AccountInQuestion. I'm actually glad something came up that pulled me back into the VCT loop.


You're right, at the end of the day whether UNKewlJ ends up looking like a goat or a clown he gets what he set out to get from day one - attention.


At my end I have to take a break anyway because I've been playing the same casino, DD Blackjack, for hours and hours one on one. So I haven't played for a couple days now. So, I'm here to have my say on the continuing UNKewl saga!

[accountinquestion]

Man what a great thread this turned out to be.

I still prefer the Newell Singer threads for pure comedic value. I don't think I laughed near as much from this thread. Pound for pound hard to say which is more entertaining.

Kewl doesn't really have a uhm sense of humor from anything I've ever seen. Always (and I mean ALWAYS) about the serious business of being a card counter.

Why??!?

[accountinquestion]

Who fucking cares what people do in their free time? One can look from the outside and say we're all weirdos but most people just watch shit TV or sports or something else that they have absolutely nothing to do with.

Like it or not, Kewl is part of our community and we're just doing to him what he has claimed to be his objective for years.

BTW Mdawg - It is wonderful to be here with you.

Thanks AccountInQuestion. I'm actually glad something came up that pulled me back into the VCT loop.


You're right, at the end of the day whether UNKewlJ ends up looking like a goat or a clown he gets what he set out to get from day one - attention.

He's a goat clown.