The Verdict Is?

[mickeycrimm]

For the record any networking I have ever done with another ap has been a positive experience. One guy got me for a couple of hundred but I just let it slide. Happy to know it before we ever did any real business. Furthermore out of all the APs that I know I've never heard of a bad story of any significance that they have had with another ap they networked with. Furthermore kewl says it has treated him well to not network but the reality is he has no idea what he missed out on. Furthermore all of his stories about AP relationships going South are from stuff he is read on forums. I am not sure he can actually say anything that will give him credibility at this point. Furthermore it is a stretch to claim that all a p's are in competition with with each other. Things like machine hustler's might be in competition at a particular casino but that in no way extrapolates.

I'm networked with a lot of slot AP's on Twitter. We DM back and forth. Networking is profitable. I have pictures of slot games I'm waiting to run into. And I've sent pics around of games I've discovered.

[mickeycrimm]

What is your point MaxPen? That I don't play with, nor socialize with many AP's? A very select few? No shit! I have maintained that since day 1. It has served me well every step of the way.

You know how you told me a year ago that you were scared shitless of seedvalue. He was saying and doing things to harm you? You said he was very dangerous and were scared shitless to the point that you left the forum for a period and warned me not to agitate him? Remember that?

Well, I'll be damned. Ol' maggot maxie got scared and hid from the forum for months. That's fucking hilarious. I remember seedvalue fucking with him about some electronic roulette play. Some kind of glitch. Someone knowing to much about how maxie operates scared the shit out of him. LOL! Tried to get KJ to backdown from seedvalue. That's pretty scared. Then maxie ran and hid like a little bitch.

Bwahahahahahahaha!

[monet]

What is your point MaxPen? That I don't play with, nor socialize with many AP's? A very select few? No shit! I have maintained that since day 1. It has served me well every step of the way.

You know how you told me a year ago that you were scared shitless of seedvalue. He was saying and doing things to harm you? You said he was very dangerous and were scared shitless to the point that you left the forum for a period and warned me not to agitate him? Remember that?

Well, I'll be damned. Ol' maggot maxie got scared and hid from the forum for months. That's fucking hilarious. I remember seedvalue fucking with him about some electronic roulette play. Some kind of glitch. Someone knowing to much about how maxie operates scared the shit out of him. LOL! Tried to get KJ to backdown from seedvalue. That's pretty scared. Then maxie ran and hid like a little bitch.

Bwahahahahahahaha!

Just like Rat Fink Boz... ran and hid like a little bitch!
Bwahahahahahahaha!

[MaxPen]

What is your point MaxPen? That I don't play with, nor socialize with many AP's? A very select few? No shit! I have maintained that since day 1. It has served me well every step of the way.

You know how you told me a year ago that you were scared shitless of seedvalue. He was saying and doing things to harm you? You said he was very dangerous and were scared shitless to the point that you left the forum for a period and warned me not to agitate him? Remember that?

Well, I'll be damned. Ol' maggot maxie got scared and hid from the forum for months. That's fucking hilarious. I remember seedvalue fucking with him about some electronic roulette play. Some kind of glitch. Someone knowing to much about how maxie operates scared the shit out of him. LOL! Tried to get KJ to backdown from seedvalue. That's pretty scared. Then maxie ran and hid like a little bitch.

Bwahahahahahahaha!

As usual you haven't a clue what you're talking about. Same as when you made accusations of me being a cheat. Then that Seedvalue character claiming I was in jail. The roulette thing Seedvalue was talking about is all but dead. If he was talking about is what I think he was referring to. I mentioned that back then. There might be some podunk area of the country where it's still a go. I don't know.

As far as that being why I wasn't posting is a joke. I simply had no interest in posting. I never said Seedvalue was dangerous. I advised KewlJ to not mess with the guy after he asked me if he should publicly claim Seedvalue was Jeff Toll. Which I advised against.. Then he went ahead anyway...lol

Now he's upset people think he's a gay prostitute.

At the time there was speculation that's who it could be. But there was no proof. I think I also informed KewlJ that he could be with a group from the East Coast that was causing problems and they are dangerous. But nobody knows who the guy is and I know for certain now that he isn't from the group of characters I thought possible.

My absence from the forum if people really need to know is, I don't really hang out as much as I used to. By hanging out I'm referring to doing things that involve empty time. The biggest thing I had empty time was when I was pretty much riding the comp train and eating every meal in the casinos. Often then I would read the forum. I don't do any of that anymore. I kind of went on a health kick and been busy with other more personal enriching things in my life. I even remodeled my other bathroom. With a Singer approved toilet...lol

[Rob.Singer]

Now THAT'S a toilet!

[Rob.Singer]

I sometimes find myself in a position, that I have to resort to coming up with a deflect or lie to protect myself from something more damaging.

If I find myself in a position where I need to lie or make up a story to protect myself, my anonymity, and my career, by telling a little white lie on an internet forum, you better believe I am going to.

Just so that we may have another good guffaw at your expense UNKewlJ, could you please think long and hard the way you have been each night regularly, to come up with some new lie of the day as to how all the lying you've been laying on us for weeks now over this latest whopper, somehow protected you, your anonymity, or your nonexistent "career." Versus just keeping your mouth shut, I mean. You fucking goat clown.

Everything kew did was ALL for the forum attention he needs and craves. That's what you get when someone is a loser and a liar in real life.

I told you folks he concocts just about everything because I do know much more about him that he wants to comprehend. Only I keep private the things that are meant to be private.

I expect people like MrV has learned a good lesson here.

[Rob.Singer]

What is your point MaxPen? That I don't play with, nor socialize with many AP's? A very select few? No shit! I have maintained that since day 1. It has served me well every step of the way.

You know how you told me a year ago that you were scared shitless of seedvalue. He was saying and doing things to harm you? You said he was very dangerous and were scared shitless to the point that you left the forum for a period and warned me not to agitate him? Remember that?

Well, I'll be damned. Ol' maggot maxie got scared and hid from the forum for months. That's fucking hilarious. I remember seedvalue fucking with him about some electronic roulette play. Some kind of glitch. Someone knowing to much about how maxie operates scared the shit out of him. LOL! Tried to get KJ to backdown from seedvalue. That's pretty scared. Then maxie ran and hid like a little bitch.

Bwahahahahahahaha!

As usual you haven't a clue what you're talking about. Same as when you made accusations of me being a cheat. Then that Seedvalue character claiming I was in jail. The roulette thing Seedvalue was talking about is all but dead. If he was talking about is what I think he was referring to. I mentioned that back then. There might be some podunk area of the country where it's still a go. I don't know.

As far as that being why I wasn't posting is a joke. I simply had no interest in posting. I never said Seedvalue was dangerous. I advised KewlJ to not mess with the guy after he asked me if he should publicly claim Seedvalue was Jeff Toll. Which I advised against.. Then he went ahead anyway...lol

Now he's upset people think he's a gay prostitute.

At the time there was speculation that's who it could be. But there was no proof. I think I also informed KewlJ that he could be with a group from the East Coast that was causing problems and they are dangerous. But nobody knows who the guy is and I know for certain now that he isn't from the group of characters I thought possible.

My absence from the forum if people really need to know is, I don't really hang out as much as I used to. By hanging out I'm referring to doing things that involve empty time. The biggest thing I had empty time was when I was pretty much riding the comp train and eating every meal in the casinos. Often then I would read the forum. I don't do any of that anymore. I kind of went on a health kick and been busy with other more personal enriching things in my life. I even remodeled my other bathroom. With a Singer approved toilet...lol

Is that one of those new toilets where you don't need to use toilet paper, like in Demolition Man?

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[kewlJ]

I'm such a sucker, I actually thought KJ might be leaving for a while this time.

What I have decided to do is no longer share a single thing about my play or career, as I have always done.

You and others do NOT have the right to try to drive me away simply because you do not like me. If I feel there is something I want to say, I will say it.

I acknowledge the supersleuth Maxpen caught me lying about the case actually being filed, as I tried to protect myself from the details of the settlement coming out, including my identity. And that is something Singer has never done despite being caught by Maxpen and others many times.

The easy solution for me is just to no longer share anything about my play or career. Then I won't be in a position where I need to try to protect myself.

[MDawg]

The easy solution for me is just to no longer share anything about my play or career.

Sure, why not? No need to talk about "play or career" that never existed in the first place. Good choice.

About as meaningless as making obvious lies for weeks that everyone saw through, and then retracting the lies, and then claiming that lying and retracting somehow furthered some end - other than making you out to be a clear cut

I sometimes find myself in a position, that I have to resort to coming up with a deflect or lie to protect myself from something more damaging.

If I find myself in a position where I need to lie or make up a story to protect myself, my anonymity, and my career, by telling a little white lie on an internet forum, you better believe I am going to.

Just so that we may have another good guffaw at your expense UNKewlJ, could you please think long and hard the way you have been each night regularly, to come up with some new lie of the day as to how all the lying you've been laying on us for weeks now over this latest whopper, somehow protected you, your anonymity, or your nonexistent "career." Versus just keeping your mouth shut, I mean. You fucking goat clown.

Seriously only a twisted mental deficient would think that lying, with obvious lies that didn't even pass the laugh test, and then retracting those lies, could further some useful end.

Mentally ill is the only answer I can come up with.

You and others do NOT have the right to try to drive me away simply because you do not like me.

The only thing that would drive you away is your own shame. You got called on the carpet and continued to perpetrate the lie. Now you outed yourself so badly that your lashing out like a cornered animal. It's obvious that how people perceive you is very important to you. Nobody did this to you but yourself. I'm not trying to drive you away. I am simply setting the record straight after defending you to other people for years. They were right. I was wrong. Live and learn. Oh well.....RIP

Quit playing the victim, that train left the station some time ago.

What people don't like...is a compulsive liar. Other than for entertainment.

MaxPen on the UNKewl one: Compulsive liar is a fair assessment of what he is. If people go back and look at your last few stories they will see a trend in you always changing the story after you get caught lying.

[monet]

What is your point MaxPen? That I don't play with, nor socialize with many AP's? A very select few? No shit! I have maintained that since day 1. It has served me well every step of the way.

You know how you told me a year ago that you were scared shitless of seedvalue. He was saying and doing things to harm you? You said he was very dangerous and were scared shitless to the point that you left the forum for a period and warned me not to agitate him? Remember that?

Well, I'll be damned. Ol' maggot maxie got scared and hid from the forum for months. That's fucking hilarious. I remember seedvalue fucking with him about some electronic roulette play. Some kind of glitch. Someone knowing to much about how maxie operates scared the shit out of him. LOL! Tried to get KJ to backdown from seedvalue. That's pretty scared. Then maxie ran and hid like a little bitch.

Bwahahahahahahaha!

As usual you haven't a clue what you're talking about. Same as when you made accusations of me being a cheat. Then that Seedvalue character claiming I was in jail. The roulette thing Seedvalue was talking about is all but dead. If he was talking about is what I think he was referring to. I mentioned that back then. There might be some podunk area of the country where it's still a go. I don't know.

As far as that being why I wasn't posting is a joke. I simply had no interest in posting. I never said Seedvalue was dangerous. I advised KewlJ to not mess with the guy after he asked me if he should publicly claim Seedvalue was Jeff Toll. Which I advised against.. Then he went ahead anyway...lol

Now he's upset people think he's a gay prostitute.

At the time there was speculation that's who it could be. But there was no proof. I think I also informed KewlJ that he could be with a group from the East Coast that was causing problems and they are dangerous. But nobody knows who the guy is and I know for certain now that he isn't from the group of characters I thought possible.

My absence from the forum if people really need to know is, I don't really hang out as much as I used to. By hanging out I'm referring to doing things that involve empty time. The biggest thing I had empty time was when I was pretty much riding the comp train and eating every meal in the casinos. Often then I would read the forum. I don't do any of that anymore. I kind of went on a health kick and been busy with other more personal enriching things in my life. I even remodeled my other bathroom. With a Singer approved toilet...lol

You got to give people options.
What if I want to wipe instead of squirt water up my ass!?

[monet]

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Thanks for posting.
I never saw this one.
Funny!

I'm currently in a world of hurt.
My wife went to her primary care physician and he referred her for a bunch of tests.
She won't listen to me so now she is going to let some guy shove a 5-foot camera up her ass and who knows what else.
Wouldn't matter so much if I didn't have to drive her to these places, wait in the offices, talk to the doctors and fill out all the paperwork.
Fuck My Life!

People think the doctors will save them and help them live forever.
If anyone would do the math, they would realize that statistically you don't gain any more time.
These doctors cannot save you.
You will die.
And many times the procedures or "medicines" speed up the process.
You want to change things?
Stop Smoking.
Stop Drinking Alcohol.
Stop Overeating and Change your Diet.
Exercise.
Move to a better environment with better air quality.
And it still will not matter.
You Are Going To Die.

[jdog]

MDawg: earlier in this thread you asked that whoever voted kewlJ was truthful to come forward. I did give him the benefit of the doubt for two reasons: Most of the time, kewlJ is not trolling with his posts and does not come across as inherently hateful. It seemed plausible to me that someone, who knows so much about counting, could have this happen to them.

Now I will admit I became highly skeptical once he started talking about pursuing a settlement from the casino but then continued to post endlessly about it. If I were involved in legal action against anyone, I would not discuss it AT ALL publicly. You don’t need an attorney to tell you that.

But several pages into this thread it became clear that I made an error in judgment but you can’t change your vote on this forum. However, I (like most of us I’m sure) was thoroughly amused to follow this saga for months only to find most (or all) of it to be a fabrication... and MisterV, I applaud you for finding forgiveness in your heart in light of such betrayal.

Now I think this was asked before, but I think the only thing that still needs to be solved here is: who is the most entertaining, Singer or KJ?

[MaxPen]

Well, I'll be damned. Ol' maggot maxie got scared and hid from the forum for months. That's fucking hilarious. I remember seedvalue fucking with him about some electronic roulette play. Some kind of glitch. Someone knowing to much about how maxie operates scared the shit out of him. LOL! Tried to get KJ to backdown from seedvalue. That's pretty scared. Then maxie ran and hid like a little bitch.

Bwahahahahahahaha!

As usual you haven't a clue what you're talking about. Same as when you made accusations of me being a cheat. Then that Seedvalue character claiming I was in jail. The roulette thing Seedvalue was talking about is all but dead. If he was talking about is what I think he was referring to. I mentioned that back then. There might be some podunk area of the country where it's still a go. I don't know.

As far as that being why I wasn't posting is a joke. I simply had no interest in posting. I never said Seedvalue was dangerous. I advised KewlJ to not mess with the guy after he asked me if he should publicly claim Seedvalue was Jeff Toll. Which I advised against.. Then he went ahead anyway...lol

Now he's upset people think he's a gay prostitute.

At the time there was speculation that's who it could be. But there was no proof. I think I also informed KewlJ that he could be with a group from the East Coast that was causing problems and they are dangerous. But nobody knows who the guy is and I know for certain now that he isn't from the group of characters I thought possible.

My absence from the forum if people really need to know is, I don't really hang out as much as I used to. By hanging out I'm referring to doing things that involve empty time. The biggest thing I had empty time was when I was pretty much riding the comp train and eating every meal in the casinos. Often then I would read the forum. I don't do any of that anymore. I kind of went on a health kick and been busy with other more personal enriching things in my life. I even remodeled my other bathroom. With a Singer approved toilet...lol

Is that one of those new toilets where you don't need to use toilet paper, like in Demolition Man?

It's a bidet toilet. I had to install electric behind the toilet. It does a lot of stuff like seat warming, has a remote, and other shit. I call it the space ship. My wife uses it so I know it works. Truth be told it sketches me out so I use the other bathroom....lol

Maybe that will change one day though.

[MisterV]

Monet: Sorry to read of your wife's health troubles.

While I do not pray I can hope, and I hope for the best for her.

Life is a gift and yes, we need to be proactive to try to prolong its length and its quality.

[MDawg]

MDawg: earlier in this thread you asked that whoever voted kewlJ was truthful to come forward. I did give him the benefit of the doubt for two reasons: Most of the time, kewlJ is not trolling with his posts and does not come across as inherently hateful. It seemed plausible to me that someone, who knows so much about counting, could have this happen to them.

Now I will admit I became highly skeptical once he started talking about pursuing a settlement from the casino but then continued to post endlessly about it. If I were involved in legal action against anyone, I would not discuss it AT ALL publicly. You don’t need an attorney to tell you that.

But several pages into this thread it became clear that I made an error in judgment but you can’t change your vote on this forum. However, I (like most of us I’m sure) was thoroughly amused to follow this saga for months only to find most (or all) of it to be a fabrication... and MisterV, I applaud you for finding forgiveness in your heart in light of such betrayal.

Now I think this was asked before, but I think the only thing that still needs to be solved here is: who is the most entertaining, Singer or KJ?

Thanks jdog for the response and explanation.

Well, you may always go and vote in the updated poll, here:
https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...story-quot-now

[accountinquestion]

In fairness to Kewl I kinda respect his unwillingness to give up. In a vacuum it is an admirable trait.

In addition this trait of his gives me the most amusement I have going on in my life these days. I wake up read the new threads. Laugh a bit. Sure it isn't intentional but the dude has breathed life into this forum like no one else.

Kewl - that is the best compliment I can give you.

I also believe that you've given a lot of interesting takes on blackjack counting in LV which are legitimate.

I never thought you didn't play a lot of blackjack - I just had serious doubts that it was your main source of money and some of these fantastic tales you tell, whether 3 table counting, backrooming, or the rigged shufflers in the El Cortez.

[Rob.Singer]

As usual you haven't a clue what you're talking about. Same as when you made accusations of me being a cheat. Then that Seedvalue character claiming I was in jail. The roulette thing Seedvalue was talking about is all but dead. If he was talking about is what I think he was referring to. I mentioned that back then. There might be some podunk area of the country where it's still a go. I don't know.

As far as that being why I wasn't posting is a joke. I simply had no interest in posting. I never said Seedvalue was dangerous. I advised KewlJ to not mess with the guy after he asked me if he should publicly claim Seedvalue was Jeff Toll. Which I advised against.. Then he went ahead anyway...lol

Now he's upset people think he's a gay prostitute.

At the time there was speculation that's who it could be. But there was no proof. I think I also informed KewlJ that he could be with a group from the East Coast that was causing problems and they are dangerous. But nobody knows who the guy is and I know for certain now that he isn't from the group of characters I thought possible.

My absence from the forum if people really need to know is, I don't really hang out as much as I used to. By hanging out I'm referring to doing things that involve empty time. The biggest thing I had empty time was when I was pretty much riding the comp train and eating every meal in the casinos. Often then I would read the forum. I don't do any of that anymore. I kind of went on a health kick and been busy with other more personal enriching things in my life. I even remodeled my other bathroom. With a Singer approved toilet...lol

Is that one of those new toilets where you don't need to use toilet paper, like in Demolition Man?

It's a bidet toilet. I had to install electric behind the toilet. It does a lot of stuff like seat warming, has a remote, and other shit. I call it the space ship. My wife uses it so I know it works. Truth be told it sketches me out so I use the other bathroom....lol

Maybe that will change one day though.

I've not seen, or heard of, one of those. But I like looking at it.

[monet]

In fairness to Kewl I kinda respect his unwillingness to give up. In a vacuum it is an admirable trait.

In addition this trait of his gives me the most amusement I have going on in my life these days. I wake up read the new threads. Laugh a bit. Sure it isn't intentional but the dude has breathed life into this forum like no one else.

Kewl - that is the best compliment I can give you.

I also believe that you've given a lot of interesting takes on blackjack counting in LV which are legitimate.

I never thought you didn't play a lot of blackjack - I just had serious doubts that it was your main source of money and some of these fantastic tales you tell, whether 3 table counting, backrooming, or the rigged shufflers in the El Cortez.

It was proven a long time ago that his main source of income is from hooking.

[accountinquestion]

I've not seen, or heard of, one of those. But I like looking at it.

Those bidet things are something else. A family member installed one. It can be a bit painful if you hit it right on the butthole. Maybe not painful but definitely disconcerting. I'm not sure if they're all that powerful. I turned it on the first time without sitting on it and it sprayed all over the wall before I could figure out how to turn the knob back into the right position.... Caught shit for that and deservedly so.. (lol caught shit)