Fiction as fiction can be

[kewlJ]

4+ different threads all arguing or the same bullshit?

Well, yes and no.

Mdawg posted this tale of a 10 hour straight session spreading $100 to $5000 at double deck, at 3 different forums yesterday. So he must have wanted the attention. I brought the discussion here giving him that opportunity to explain, and convince people like me and you, that know this is not how blackjack works in Las Vegas.....a 10 hour session spreading $100 to $5000 at double deck.

But there is nothing he can really come up with so he attacks. But I did give him the opportunity to explain himself, several different times during the thread.

In the end though, yes...all threads dissolve into the same bullshit....whatever the trolling topic of the day is.

[Rob.Singer]

The funniest thing about Rob will come on judgement day.

When most "bad" people arrive at the pearly gates and are sent south by Saint Peter, at least they know that their stealing, and lying and robbing a bank benefited them here on earth for a short time. It will be small consolation for an eternity in hell, but at least they got something for it.

When Rob is handed a one way ticket south by Saint Peter for being a complete asshole on the internet, he will have gotten nothing for it. He still ended up without much, living off his social security mooching off his kids, with a little bit of inheritance from his wife's father than he went through in the final few years. As he spends eternity in hell, it may dawn on him: Internet stuff? Damn.


Rob is banking that there is no Saint Peter or hell. That seems like the ultimate gamble. But then Rob has always been just a gambler. Only fitting that his final and biggest gamble will result in his biggest loss.

I like this! Kew believes there is a hell....moreso even than what his existence here on earth is like for him. Yet it is written in the holy books that demented indiviuals--aka, homos--will be shipped straight to hell the moment they drop. No designer delivery type gestures to help him escape, no lithpy-voiced excuses to try and talk himself out of it, and no goody two shoes favors for the wimpy people....and no mercy.

I'll be waving "Bye Bye kew!" from far far above.

[jbjb]

4+ different threads all arguing or the same bullshit?

Well, yes and no.

Mdawg posted this tale of a 10 hour straight session spreading $100 to $5000 at double deck, at 3 different forums yesterday. So he must have wanted the attention. I brought the discussion here giving him that opportunity to explain, and convince people like me and you, that know this is not how blackjack works in Las Vegas.....a 10 hour session spreading $100 to $5000 at double deck.

But there is nothing he can really come up with so he attacks. But I did give him the opportunity to explain himself, several different times during the thread.

In the end though, yes...all threads dissolve into the same bullshit....whatever the trolling topic of the day is.

Don't give him the attention and he'll go away. Good advice from Don S.

[kewlJ]

While others may not, I find the Mdawg transformation somewhat interesting.

First, he was not new when he showed up at WoV 4 years ago. He had previously posted (about baccarat claims) and been banned at WoV. So this re-incarnated version of Mdawg and his high-level gambling claims were once again all about baccarat. About half-way through, realizing no one believed his claims about baccarat, he discretely switched over to blackjack.

He figured; people KNOW blackjack can be beaten long-term so they will now believe my story. The problem was and continues to be for him, that what he claims is not how blackjack works in this town. His story is not how any form of gambling works....with all the claims of winning AND high end comps.

He has now taken 3 or 4 different swings, about how he has been able to win, but all of those swings have been swings and misses, because none of them are really how things work. In the end he is left with a story that defies both the math and how things work in Vegas. That immediately shrinks his audience to those few people (ploppies) that don't know how things work.

I guess he thinks the name calling and attacks help in some way.

[kewlJ]

Don't give him the attention and he'll go away. Good advice from Don S.

Yeah, but he won't! You have to squash him like a roach.

[kewlJ]

Yet it is written in the holy books that demented indiviuals--aka, homos--will be shipped straight to hell the moment they drop. No designer delivery type gestures to help him escape, no lithpy-voiced excuses to try and talk himself out of it, and no goody two shoes favors for the wimpy people....and no mercy.

What you claim is written is written by man. It is not the word of God. By all accounts, God's own son Jesus was bisexual. That was not by mistake. God intended for there to be love among individuals with no strings or narrow definement that man has put on it. It is not yours or any humans place to make this false judgement. I was made in my Gods image. There are no mistakes. Just some insecure humans that overstep their place because they are so insecure.

That hate that you spew toward myself and other gays, is really no different than the hate Hitler had. I don't think you are capable of understanding that. But you will some day soon (Judgement day). And it won't be pretty.

[Rob.Singer]

Leave it to a demented and delusional weak and no-confidence useless person who chose to be a homo to claim he knows Jesus was a faggot, and anyone other than a living human being wrote scripture.

The kew joke continues.....

[accountinquestion]

By all accounts, God's own son Jesus was bisexual. ... . I was made in my Gods image. There are no mistakes.

Explain more about how by all accounts Jesus swings both ways? This is news to me...

BTW you use foreigner as a slur. Your newly found christlike qualities could use a bit of patching up.

[Gottlob1]

By all accounts, God's own son Jesus was bisexual. ... . I was made in my Gods image. There are no mistakes.

Explain more about how by all accounts Jesus swings both ways? This is news to me...

One of the comments in the answer to follow,

"I, personally, want to keep this question around. It is a nonsense argument, but it's more widely 'out there' than most people would probably expect. This site is about understanding all sorts of wackiness, including this."

https://christianity.stackexchange.c...C15.2958#15330

[jbjb]

Don't give him the attention and he'll go away. Good advice from Don S.

Yeah, but he won't! You have to squash him like a roach.

You're failing at the squashing.

[MDawg]

Robert, I know that you and MDawg enjoy insultlng, defiling and inflicting pain on KJ but please ask yourself one question: "Why?"

I will often flame someone, insult them, but never to the degree and with the severity that you employ.

I'm just curious whether you can articulate a reason for your actions?

While we await Rob's answer, let me tell you what I think MrV.

Both are bullies and it is very easy now a days to be a bully on the internet.

Mdawg is very, very angry that I called out his fiction story and many of the details of his fiction story. Others did as well, but I kept at it longer than most, because he kept repeating it. So he blames me that despite his daily reports of winning on multiple forums, there just is little interest or response. If he posts a picture of a good cut of meat or a shirt he bought, or whatever nonsense he posted about charcoal toothpaste, he may generate an occasional response. But there just is very little interest on 3 forums no less in his continuing daily reports....and in his mind, that is my fault.

Singer needs an adversary. He always has. If you go back and read from a decade ago, Singer always needed an adversary and he always tried to brutally attack anyone who dared challenge his silly claims. Not just the person making the challenge, but he will attack and make up nasty lies about wives, children family members. This is actually an old mob tactic. It is suppose to serve as warning, a deterrent to others not to do the same thing or this will happen to you.

Both Singer and Mdawg have this crazy idea that if they can discredit whoever makes legitimate challenges of their claims, it somehow makes their claims more credible. Like I was caught and admitted lying about the lawsuit part of my recent incident. Does anybody think that made it more likely (or at all likely) that Rob Singer owned a Newell? Won a 1.5 million dollar Jackpot on a 10 play that the casino set up just for him and then regretted it? Played the double up bug? Are any of these more likely now?

UNKewlJ can’t even read himself let alone others.

[accountinquestion]

Both Singer and Mdawg have this crazy idea that if they can discredit whoever makes legitimate challenges of their claims, it somehow makes their claims more credible. Like I was caught and admitted lying about the lawsuit part of my recent incident. Does anybody think that made it more likely (or at all likely) that Rob Singer owned a Newell? Won a 1.5 million dollar Jackpot on a 10 play that the casino set up just for him and then regretted it? Played the double up bug? Are any of these more likely now?

UNKewlJ can’t even read himself let alone others.

He was "caught" lying about the lawsuit but he has also been caught lying about the shufflemaster he bought. He never learned his lesson. He is clinical. He tried so many times to dig himself out of the lawsuit hole but failed. He did himself in more when he said he could find sealed cases but then couldn't provide them after claiming they existed. The whole thing is just sorta sad.

What he claimed about the shufflemaster is just as absurd. He really needs to get off this proving of anything from anyone else. Just stick to giving advice on being a modest lowlevel counter. Now he is acting like he only lied about the court case (and faking his own death)

The fact is that Kewl's shufflemaster lie impacted me because I told it as fact to other (very embarassing). When I pressed him on it he dug in and made up more lies that made even less sense and are obviously complete and utter bullshit.

Now he references how he was "caught" in the lie about the court case .. I think the fact that he chooses the word "caught" to be quite telling but regardless it isn't the only lie he has been caught with. He clearly hasn't learned any lessons and why would he? Dude is clinical.

Kewl - everytime you go on and on about these 2 lying about whatever you are just shining the spotlight on yourself. Anyway.. please do yourself a favor and take the hint that has been given to you many many times now. It is clear your forum story is very important to you so just stick with that and let Rob and Mdawg have their fun. If someone thinks they can beat casinos due to Mdawg's posting well it is safe to say they'd found that belief elsewhere.

[kewlJ]

He was "caught" lying about the lawsuit but he has also been caught lying about the shufflemaster he bought.

I most certainly was not "caught" lying about the shufflemaster machine. You have an opinion about that. Nothing more. You have now become one of these people that thinks your opinion is fact.

What I say about the shuffler is NOT opinion. It started out as opinion, or something I strongly suspected. But I purchased the machine, got it into the country and got my hands on it. Hired someone who could figure it out and make it do what I suspected and later was shown something that few people have seen, by another AP who took it apart.

You just sit there and guess and say, this or that couldn't happen, when you really have no idea.

So have your opinion. That is your right. But that is all it is.

[kewlJ]

I am going to say this one time and one time only.

At this time, with this particular model machine, the capability to put the cards in any order desired was there. And that capability still is there. Capability means it has the technology and is capable of doing that. I don't think and hope nobody denies THAT.

Now this was not one of the preset modes that can be accessed by punching in a code, which they call a key. It does have to be slightly altered to get to that point. But I am told it is a very easy thing to do. Takes seconds.

So it is sort of a back-door feature. And the only reason it was a back door feature instead of a regular feature is because some gaming commission somewhere (probably Nevada first followed by others) would have not allowed that. So by arranging it to this backdoor feature, they protected themselves. If any machine was found to have this capability because the back door feature had been activated, shufflemaster could say, "well they altered it. That is not how it left the factory." That is the ONLY reason.

Now I don't know what may or may not have changed since that time. I haven't kept up as I probably should have.

[MDawg]

I read the shuffler discussion. Others pointed out that UNKewlJ was lying from the getgo, so yes, he was caught lying there too. But the thing with him, like most compulsive liars, is that they have to be caught dead to rights before they even begin to 'fess up, and even then they still try to come with some sly nonsense like "Well I lied about that, but I told the truth about this" when in reality they lied about everything.

I think what it is with someone like this is that he goes through these periods of mania where his mind is racing and he feels a desperate need to be heard and taken seriously. As the mania pounds on he finds himself compelled to make up facts to back up his stories, without taking the time to consider whether what he is offering is even logical or makes sense.

Eventually though he settles into a "woe is me" depressed state, and that is when he quits the forums, or stops posting (for a few days, or hours).

Another lie he offered what was that nonsense about MGM Execs showing up at his rented apartment to present player records. Besides the fact that the whole thing made no sense, he was running with some name Boz pulled out of a hat which if anyone took even a brief look at that person and then at me, it would be clear that it's the wrong guy. Wizard even told him that he had the wrong guy, but still he runs with it, including with the occasional racial slur which I just laugh at because for all I know UNKewlJ is Asian.

[soxfan]

What are the odds that the kewl-J will come clean on his "backed-room" narrative, hey hey????

[MDawg]

He would have been better off confessing that he was trying to troll. The fact that he is trying to stick with the event actually happening just makes him look like an idiot.

But the thing with him, like most compulsive liars, is that they have to be caught dead to rights before they even begin to 'fess up, and even then they still try to come with some sly nonsense like "Well I lied about that, but I told the truth about this" when in reality they lied about everything.

[accountinquestion]

He was "caught" lying about the lawsuit but he has also been caught lying about the shufflemaster he bought.

I most certainly was not "caught" lying about the shufflemaster machine. You have an opinion about that. Nothing more. You have now become one of these people that thinks your opinion is fact.

What I say about the shuffler is NOT opinion. It started out as opinion, or something I strongly suspected. But I purchased the machine, got it into the country and got my hands on it. Hired someone who could figure it out and make it do what I suspected and later was shown something that few people have seen, by another AP who took it apart.

You just sit there and guess and say, this or that couldn't happen, when you really have no idea.

So have your opinion. That is your right. But that is all it is.

I have called your bullshit from the beginning.

There is 0 chance that shufflemaster bakes a cheat mode into their shuffler.

That is the only way a "programmer I hired" would have been able to do anything within 15 minutes.

The whole idea is just utterly absurd.

Actually I have plenty of an idea.

If you are going to lie, just don't be a clown about it.

"slightly altered" to have it behave in a whole new different way. And you needed a programmer to figure this out. Programmers program. They do NOT do what you are claiming.

So these machines all have a capability that the gaming commissions would find to not be acceptable that is hidden and it required 15 minutes of a programmers time. HA ! Oh wait - it was seconds !

If you know it can sort cards then you know it can sort them into any order. That is a known mode AFAIK. I guess you'll say the programmer googled it and then did the configuration changes ?

How did he enter the "key" ?

Quit your lying dude. "takes seconds" to modify the machine to do something completely different.

"Punching in a code".. so you are saying the things have a keypad inside them?

edit - ok no keypad but they appear to have a touchscreen. So that is at least plausible but none the more credible.

[accountinquestion]

Programmers aren't cheap. Especially one that can hack a machine in 15 minutes. Kewl the guy who is all humble in what he makes gladly put up the cash just to find out the shuffler can sort cards as advertised by the manfacturer!

"fiction as fiction can be". Indeed.

[accountinquestion]

These things are approved by gaming commissions and the source of income for a business worth 10s or 100s of millions .. yet hackable in 15 minutes .. and can be reprogrammed to deal decks in a known order within seconds.

The question isn't "why was the mode hidden". The question is "Why would shufflemaster risk their whole business by putting in a cheat mode" ?

Yet Kewl had a programmer who could "backdoor" it and make it do illegal things because well.. it had to be hidden because of the gaming commissions and Kewl hired a programmer.

Dontchaknow ?

Maybe this needs its own poll?