The Verdict Is?

[AxelWolf]

I am actually looking into opening an office in Vegas.

Specializing in clients who get their arms broken while being backroomed?

J/K, but then again why not specialize in hammering casinos?

At least you'd be consistent, at least per your reports.

Think about it as sort of a "side hustle."

Nersesian is 66 so he'll probably want to retire, so why not try to fill the void his leaving would cause?

You might consider associating with him to "learn the ropes," but I doubt you'd be comfortable not being the "Top Dawg" in the law office.

But swallow your pride a bit, learn the tricks and off you go...billboards splashing your mug for all the aggrieved AP's and ploppies to see; heck in twenty years you could be mayor.

Las Vegas has long been an "open city:" originally viz. mob-speak, but now opportunities are open to those aggressive and tenacious enough to sieze them.

Consider Wynn's rise as a case history.

You would go broke. Out of all the cases I saw involving casinos over that couple months period zero involved advantage players. Most of the cases are people trapped in elevators, falling on escalators, slip and falls in rooms, and group billing stuff.

I doubt Nersesian could afford even a single billboard for advertising.

Holy hell, these threads are going non-stop. Someone really wants to put this behind them...lol

For those who don't know, I believe Bob's Wife is also an attorney. I don't remember what type of attorney she is, but it probably has something to do with business or property. They have separate offices in their main office. It's a converted house downtown that I assume they own.

[kewlJ]

One thing I'm unclear about, how did the WoV know that KJ was a compulsive liar?

A lot of people suspected he was lying about this or that. I was agnostic myself...but Shackleford doesn't seem like the type to make hasty judgments and yet seems to have figured KJ out on his own.

I am not aware of Micheal Shackleford ever saying such a thing. Could you please point to where he did?

I was first banned from WoV, during what is described as a feud with Norman Wattenburger, who never really was even a member there. Norm showed up to pursue a feud that had started elsewhere. When Mike banned me, he specifically posted that "Norm was somebody that Mike considered a friend and done work for Mike, so when Norm asked me for a favor, I could not say no". That favor was that I be banned.

Later I returned with the help of MaxPen and Axelwolf. By that time I was into the Mdawg situation and was never going to be able to abide by any agreement not to say anything about Mdawg. If Mdawg keeps making these preposterous claims about winning millions, receiving high-end comps and the casino pit bosses loving him, I was always going to say "that's not the way it works". At no time was I ever banned or suspended for lying that I am aware of. If you are going to say something like that, you should at least link to it if I dispute it. Is that not fair and decent?

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One thing I'm unclear about, how did the WoV know that KJ was a compulsive liar?

A lot of people suspected he was lying about this or that. I was agnostic myself...but Shackleford doesn't seem like the type to make hasty judgments and yet seems to have figured KJ out on his own.

I am not aware of Micheal Shackleford ever saying such a thing. Could you please point to where he did?

I was first banned from WoV, during what is described as a feud with Norman Wattenburger, who never really was even a member there. Norm showed up to pursue a feud that had started elsewhere. When Mike banned me, he specifically posted that "Norm was somebody that Mike considered a friend and done work for Mike, so when Norm asked me for a favor, I could not say no". That favor was that I be banned.

Later I returned with the help of MaxPen and Axelwolf. By that time I was into the Mdawg situation and was never going to be able to abide by any agreement not to say anything about Mdawg. If Mdawg keeps making these preposterous claims about winning millions, receiving high-end comps and the casino pit bosses loving him, I was always going to say "that's not the way it works". At no time was I ever banned or suspended for lying that I am aware of. If you are going to say something like that, you should at least link to it if I dispute it. Is that not fair and decent?

it is clear smurger isn't fair and decent

[Rob.Singer]

Kew claims to be "friends" with Shack and that he, like myself, knows his real name. But a quick check with the wizard turns up quite a different story.

Go ahead kew--contact your "friend" and ask him what he thinks about your "back-rooming" bs hoax, and if he thinks you're a compulsive pathological liar or not.

Don't have any weapons nearby when you do.

[MisterV]

Robert, correct me if I'm wrong but weren't you BANNED from Mike's board, WOV, more than a decade ago?

Thought so.

Given that, why in hell would Mike, a reasonably stand up guy and rigorous enforcer of the rules, give a banned member the time of day, much less to discuss KJ, another banned member, with you?


Rule 16: "Messages from banned members: Do not quote anything, neither public nor private, a banned member has said. If we ban somebody it means we don't want to hear from them any longer. (Added 6/9/2016)"

Your exile to Village Of The Damned was permanent, yes?

[kewlJ]

WTF, where did I ever claim I was friends with Shackleford?

MrV, Rob has always just made up whatever he wants. Now others seem to be doing so as well. If I had to guess I would guess Mdawg is PMing people behind the scenes, filling their heads with lies and spreading nonsense. And I guess if you don't like someone, it is fair game to make up whatever you like.

Rob Singer is a guy who posted that bill of sale for an RV with no letterhead and all signatures in the same handwritng.

He posted and preset up that 1.5 million dollar jackpot scam and then posted a picture from a computer in the storage area of a house.

He posted pictures of fake movie prop money purchased at Amazon.

Of course he posted the pictures in the RV at the dealership that wasn't his.

He stood Maxpen up, reneging on a proposed meet-up at South Point where he was going to prove a jackpot hit.

2 weeks later he pulled the same damn stunt with Dan Druff at Green Valley Ranch.

Singer snuck up on an RV in an RV park and took a picture of the outside and posted that it was his (and it didn't match picture of other RV's he said were his)

He took out an add in an RV magazine claiming to sell an RV that there was no RV. His ad had 3 pictures. The same 3 pictures he had previously stolen and posted, despite that there was room for and he paid for like 20 pictures. There is additional nonsense about an Isreali buying the non-existant RV sight unseen from overseas.

These are only a few of his BS lies.

Now I guess he thinks he will lie about Shackleford and hope I go running and ask Mike.

Rob Singer is just a retard at this point. A geriatric old fool. If he was a good troll once, those days are long gone.

[accountinquestion]

MrV, Rob has consistently fabricated information based on his own whims. Unfortunately, it appears that others are following suit. If I were to speculate, it seems that Mdawg is privately messaging individuals, filling their minds with falsehoods and spreading baseless claims. It appears that making up unfounded stories is considered fair game when someone is disliked.

Rob Singer is an individual who shared a bill of sale for an RV without any official letterhead, and all the signatures appeared to be written by the same person. He orchestrated a scam involving a $1.5 million jackpot and shared a picture taken from a computer in a storage area of a house. He also posted images of counterfeit movie prop money purchased from Amazon. Additionally, he posted pictures of an RV at a dealership that did not belong to him.

He made a commitment to meet Maxpen at South Point to prove a jackpot hit but failed to follow through, leaving Maxpen hanging. Two weeks later, he pulled the same trick with Dan Druff at Green Valley Ranch. Singer sneaked up on an RV in an RV park, took a picture of the exterior, and claimed it was his own, despite the image not matching the pictures of other RVs he previously claimed as his own. Furthermore, he placed an advertisement in an RV magazine to sell a nonexistent RV, featuring three stolen pictures instead of the paid-for allowance of twenty pictures. He concocted a tale about an Israeli buyer purchasing the nonexistent RV sight unseen from overseas.

These are just a few examples of his deceptive lies.

It seems that now he intends to fabricate falsehoods about Shackleford, hoping to provoke a reaction and prompt you to seek information from Mike.

Rob Singer has reached a point where he is nothing more than a foolish, senile old man. If he was once skilled at trolling, those days are long past.

Rob Singer is known for his controversial and widely disputed claims related to gambling systems and strategies, particularly in the context of slot machines. He gained attention for his promotion of the "Advantage Play" method, which asserts that players can gain an advantage over casinos through various techniques, including exploiting patterns in slot machine behavior.

Singer has claimed to have developed and implemented strategies that allegedly increase the odds of winning at slot machines. However, these claims have been met with skepticism and criticism from many in the gambling community, including experts and industry professionals. The effectiveness and legitimacy of Singer's methods have been heavily debated, with many dismissing his claims as unfounded or lacking scientific evidence.

It's worth noting that Singer's ideas and theories have not been widely accepted or endorsed by the broader gambling community, including professional gamblers, mathematicians, and casino operators. As with any gambling-related advice or strategies, it is always recommended to approach such claims critically and consider information from reliable and reputable sources before making any decisions.

That is all.

[Rob.Singer]

Robert, correct me if I'm wrong but weren't you BANNED from Mike's board, WOV, more than a decade ago?

Thought so.

Given that, why in hell would Mike, a reasonably stand up guy and rigorous enforcer of the rules, give a banned member the time of day, much less to discuss KJ, another banned member, with you?


Rule 16: "Messages from banned members: Do not quote anything, neither public nor private, a banned member has said. If we ban somebody it means we don't want to hear from them any longer. (Added 6/9/2016)"

Your exile to Village Of The Damned was permanent, yes?

You're confusing being "banned from a forum" (YIKES! HOW AWFUL!! HOW CAN I LIVE WITH MYSELF?!!!) with the ability to remain acquainted with the admin or others who may be active members. Do you recall Mike interviewing me on my DU glitch play? Years after being banned? We also chat at times. As usual, you dorks take this forum nonsense way too seriously. No wonder you get all worked up so easily.

I understand kew, as the now well-known forum psychotic, having no choice but to continue repeating lies about me. He's hurt, he HATES that I immediately called his phony back-rooming nonsense fake for the purpose of him getting needed attention, and he can't stand it that I keep exposing his follow-on lies in a very weak effort to save face.

AQ just posted a listing where everything he claimed other than the interior RV pics, are lies. Only thing is, I'm not in any way bothered by it, because I'm understanding of that's what the less fortunate people do. I can't control how people feel, want to think, or why. But unlike kew--who absolutely HAS to be believed or he goes out of his mind and makes long, incoherent, rambling posts--I remain happy either way because I know I'm only reading what the little people are saying.

And BTW AQ, I know you're very unfamiliar with this procedure so I'll educate you in case you ever win the lottery. When you buy an RV (ours was used) or really any vehicle out of state, you get a bill of sale with all the seller's headers and bells and whistles with lots of connected (yellow in this case) pages etc. for your records; and then you get a generic several page version with everything required so you can bring it into your state's DMV for proper registration. You can take it or leave it. But at least take it as a teachable moment.

[kewlJ]

See Singer just never gives up. People wonder why I keep on, since he has completely been disproven with the whole Newell thing. I keep reminding folks, because he never gives up. I guess it is the Donald Trump playbook....I don't know.

I mean just look at this picture by Maxpen that is my current avatar (which I am not going to be able to stand looking at much longer). The dude is in an RV at the dealership pretending it is his. He is giving that stupid cheesy wave. And he is not even allowed to have his feet on the bed!

So his latest explanation is that yes, he was caught. That is not his RV. But he had one exactly like it, but just didn't feel like driving across town to it. Is anybody buying that nonsense?

Anyway, I don't care. Whatever makes you happy Rob. Seriously. One thing AinQ has right is Rob isn't hurting anybody anymore. Those days are gone.

[Rob.Singer]

Also, somewhere amongst those posts of mainly untruths and spins, I recall seeing an opinion that Singer's just senile and old" or something like that. True, everyone gets old. I'm still not sure how it happened to me as well as my wife, but unlike probably all of you people, we have had the opportunity to do it all together. I don't know how many here will die lonely, sad, and unfulfilled old men, but I'm guessing every one of you will.

And, while I can do nothing but wish I were much younger as the younger folks here rightfully mock me for getting old, I do expect to outlive every single one of you....and it shouldn't even be close. I've taken care of myself my whole life. Have you? Or did you start sometime when you got a little scare and now THINK you're some lifelong health fanatic?

On top of that probably disturbing piece of news for most or all here, I've got a WAAAAY better life and have a far more normalized life than you people do. I remain sharp as a tack, we've got the retirement savings to live very very comfortably at least until our 120's, and although like every successful person I've had a few setbacks and close calls over the years, I and my wife are completely at peace with everything we have and do in our declining years. It is, in effect, the definition of having and having led good lives.

Now can this low-level collection of morons, retards, losers and butt-lickers say the same? No wonder you idiots have to make up lies about me--which I have to admit are a big part of the entertainment here. And MrV---what possesses you to tell these fools that you play to lose?

[kewlJ]

Also, somewhere amongst those posts of mainly untruths and spins, I recall seeing an opinion that Singer's just senile and old" or something like that. True, everyone gets old. I'm still not sure how it happened to me as well as my wife, but unlike probably all of you people, we have had the opportunity to do it all together. I don't know how many here will die lonely, sad, and unfulfilled old men, but I'm guessing every one of you will.

And, while I can do nothing but wish I were much younger as the younger folks here rightfully mock me for getting old, I do expect to outlive every single one of you....and it shouldn't even be close. I've taken care of myself my whole life. Have you? Or did you start sometime when you got a little scare and now THINK you're some lifelong health fanatic?

On top of that probably disturbing piece of news for most or all here, I've got a WAAAAY better life and have a far more normalized life than you people do. I remain sharp as a tack, we've got the retirement savings to live very very comfortably at least until our 120's, and although like every successful person I've had a few setbacks and close calls over the years, I and my wife are completely at peace with everything we have and do in our declining years. It is, in effect, the definition of having and having led good lives.

Now can this low-level collection of morons, retards, losers and butt-lickers say the same? No wonder you idiots have to make up lies about me--which I have to admit are a big part of the entertainment here. And MrV---what possesses you to tell these fools that you play to lose?

See this is a very, very angry, bitter post by Rob. You can't say how happy and content you are with where you are at in life and then in the same breath wish everyone, the bad wishes that Rob just did. That is a bitter dude.

I guess I should really let any ill feelings I have for Rob go. He clearly is miserable and bitter on his own.

Happy day Rob. (I will even take my signature down).

[Rob.Singer]

See Singer just never gives up. People wonder why I keep on, since he has completely been disproven with the whole Newell thing. I keep reminding folks, because he never gives up. I guess it is the Donald Trump playbook....I don't know.

I mean just look at this picture by Maxpen that is my current avatar (which I am not going to be able to stand looking at much longer). The dude is in an RV at the dealership pretending it is his. He is giving that stupid cheesy wave. And he is not even allowed to have his feet on the bed!

So his latest explanation is that yes, he was caught. That is not his RV. But he had one exactly like it, but just didn't feel like driving across town to it. Is anybody buying that nonsense?

Anyway, I don't care. Whatever makes you happy Rob. Seriously. One thing AinQ has right is Rob aren't hurting anybody anymore. Those days are gone.

That sounds like a cry-out from you to everyone to take their eyes off of you and put them on me, after getting caught in what was it--100 lies?

I don't mind it kew--I get my fun from knowing you're a person who absolutely NEEDS to have others' acceptance, yet you just watched your entire house of phony cards come tumbling down....along with all those whom you didn't want to witness such an embarrassment.

If I were to die right now I feel greatly satisfied that I have succeeded in being a driving reason for you having to make such a stupid and humiliating mistake, complete with lies and all your bs. Naturally, I am on your mind day and night. That means I'm doing things right. And I like it!

[kewlJ]

Whatever you say Rob. Peace be with you.

[Rob.Singer]

Also, somewhere amongst those posts of mainly untruths and spins, I recall seeing an opinion that Singer's just senile and old" or something like that. True, everyone gets old. I'm still not sure how it happened to me as well as my wife, but unlike probably all of you people, we have had the opportunity to do it all together. I don't know how many here will die lonely, sad, and unfulfilled old men, but I'm guessing every one of you will.

And, while I can do nothing but wish I were much younger as the younger folks here rightfully mock me for getting old, I do expect to outlive every single one of you....and it shouldn't even be close. I've taken care of myself my whole life. Have you? Or did you start sometime when you got a little scare and now THINK you're some lifelong health fanatic?

On top of that probably disturbing piece of news for most or all here, I've got a WAAAAY better life and have a far more normalized life than you people do. I remain sharp as a tack, we've got the retirement savings to live very very comfortably at least until our 120's, and although like every successful person I've had a few setbacks and close calls over the years, I and my wife are completely at peace with everything we have and do in our declining years. It is, in effect, the definition of having and having led good lives.

Now can this low-level collection of morons, retards, losers and butt-lickers say the same? No wonder you idiots have to make up lies about me--which I have to admit are a big part of the entertainment here. And MrV---what possesses you to tell these fools that you play to lose?

See this is a very, very angry, bitter post by Rob. You can't say how happy and content you are with where you are at in life and then in the same breath wish everyone, the bad wishes that Rob just did. That is a bitter dude.

I guess I should really let any ill feelings I have for Rob go. He clearly is miserable and bitter on his own.

Happy day Rob. (I will even take my signature down).

Right through that hole in your empty head....again.

The last para.--how dumb are you to have to take all the bait I lay out for you all these years? I don't believe there's been one time you weren't too weak to latch onto it.

Can't help it kew--you make me feel better every time I read this place. I've had more success with you than I had at video poker!

[Rob.Singer]

Whatever you say Rob. Peace be with you.

I know kew, I wear you down. That's why I'll be around this earth far longer than you.

[AxelWolf]

I swear you used to be able to see who voted in the polls. There shouldn't be polls without there being a public record of who voted. I guarantee there is some poling fraud going on. Or I guess people could've voted before all the facts were in. I doubt we have that many legitimate posters here.

[Ozzy]

I swear you used to be able to see who voted in the polls. There shouldn't be polls without there being a public record of who voted. I guarantee there is some poling fraud going on. Or I guess people could've voted before all the facts were in. I doubt we have that many legitimate posters here.

LOLZ About 1/3rd of active members are the work of 2 regulars

[smurgerburger]

I think it's an option you can toggle when you create the poll.

Mdawg's poll lets you see who voted.

[Rob.Singer]

I swear you used to be able to see who voted in the polls. There shouldn't be polls without there being a public record of who voted. I guarantee there is some poling fraud going on. Or I guess people could've voted before all the facts were in. I doubt we have that many legitimate posters here.

LOLZ About 1/3rd of active members are the work of 2 regulars

And you see why kew starts most of the polls. He gets 5 votes!
Once dishonest..... always dishonest.