Redietz Has Resorted To Making Threats Behind The Scenes

[MisterV]

It's a veiled threat.

This is a "veiled threat."



Quit pussy footing around Mr. Crimm and tell us what he wrote.

Or is your complaint just a veiled tease?

[coach belly]

She's going to get trolled hard. And for a very long time.

Too bad things turned out this way.

Just don't threaten to leave the forum unless he apologizes.

[Gottlob1]

Monette you've always been the dimwittedest, dumbest idiot on the forum. For years you trolled a lot people with stupid ignorant blather. But you never messed with me. So I took you prisoner. I never attacked you. Do you know why? Here's why. BECAUSE I DON'T FUCK WITH PEOPLE UNLESS THEY FUCK WITH ME FIRST.

The best way to go about it. You can have your suspicions about others, but, it's best to do the best that you can, and, then, let those "chips" fall where they might.

[coach belly]

Quit pussy footing around Mr. Crimm and tell us what he wrote.

Is there a forum rule about disclosing whatever has been received via DM/PM?

V, you've always been up on the rules.

I would expect that once a message is received, the recipient may do as he pleases with it.

The recipient's penalty for the breach of confidentiality is to be removed from the sender's address book.

Big whoop.

[MaxPen]

I really hate being in the middle of this shit. I have no idea what's going on, and redietz tried to explain it to me in PM but I still don't understand.

Can someone clue me in as to what this is all about?

Druff, here's the chronological order of events. It started a few days ago:

In the Professional Sportsbetting thread, post #1019, redietz said "My girlfriend, who was in charge of a high stakes sports betting LV cartel, says "Hedging is for wienies!"

In post 1024 I responded "Which rub and tug was she working in?"

In post 1025 redietz responded "That was over the line and inappropriate, mickey crimm. I must formally withdraw that posted offer to fly you to the book club meeting here, and I must formally demand that you apologize.

If you don't apologize, I will stop participating here immediately. You need to learn some respect for people who have accomplished more than you gambling and who have earned their expertise. And I'm not talking about me."

In post #1027 I responded "Which would you say is more over the line? Insulting someone that you don't even know exists? Or threatening to kill another member of the forum?
Don't let the door hit you where the dog should have bit you."

If you don't know, redietz threatened to shoot me several months ago.

So this morning I found a PM by him in my inbox. Redietz is a journalism major. He knows how to construct sentences in a way that no overt threat is made but it's heavily implied. It's a veiled threat. Anyone who would take it differently is not to bright.

So this wasn't even a direct threat?

WTF?

[Gottlob1]

the Government of Canada site, show about 0.011 %

Considering that our voluntarily reported systems, v-safe (shut down) & VAERS, show exponentially higher numbers, wouldn't you think you might want to question the source of your data?? It's common knowledge that few administrations pushed the narrative harder than the Canadian gov.

40K contracting polio is a drop in the bucket compared to what these Covid vaccines are doing worldwide. The cardiovascular issues are only the beginning, after multiple shots many eventually develop immunosuppression which leads to cancers, but obviously this takes much longer to kill. So of course these deaths will never show up anywhere as a vaccine adverse event.

Well, first it was that Covid deaths were mistakenly enumerated, in the sense that other things resulted in those deaths. But, now, I guess, it's that also all of those other things are enumerated as Covid deaths.

In general, I would get the information that I want to try to discredit (with actual evidence) from the official government sites, instead of the other way around, from the conspiracy sites, but, then let it to the non-conspiracists to try to disprove that.

[Gottlob1]

So this wasn't even a direct threat?

Not a matter of direct/indirect. There are a number of factors that determine what a threat is, criminally speaking. What those come down to is how a reasonable person would interpret what was written/said, however. Based on dictionary definitions.

[monet]

Fucking MickeyCrimm is such a Scared Little Bitch that he is calling for the police to protect him.
Fucking Phony.
Fucking flip flops on his political stances and covid.
He's basically a democrat.
Or maybe just a rat who likes to call the cops over nothing.
I hope Redietz gets you and you keep looking over your shoulder.
Keep posting up where you go and where you been.
You left enough breadcrumbs over the years.
Stupid Queer Bitch who thinks Harvey Milk and the Fags of San Francisco are cool.
Talk about the Broke Back Boys.
He's the leader!
Always has been.
RIP

[mickeycrimm]

I really hate being in the middle of this shit. I have no idea what's going on, and redietz tried to explain it to me in PM but I still don't understand.

Can someone clue me in as to what this is all about?

Druff, here's the chronological order of events. It started a few days ago:

In the Professional Sportsbetting thread, post #1019, redietz said "My girlfriend, who was in charge of a high stakes sports betting LV cartel, says "Hedging is for wienies!"

In post 1024 I responded "Which rub and tug was she working in?"

In post 1025 redietz responded "That was over the line and inappropriate, mickey crimm. I must formally withdraw that posted offer to fly you to the book club meeting here, and I must formally demand that you apologize.

If you don't apologize, I will stop participating here immediately. You need to learn some respect for people who have accomplished more than you gambling and who have earned their expertise. And I'm not talking about me."

In post #1027 I responded "Which would you say is more over the line? Insulting someone that you don't even know exists? Or threatening to kill another member of the forum?
Don't let the door hit you where the dog should have bit you."

If you don't know, redietz threatened to shoot me several months ago.

So this morning I found a PM by him in my inbox. Redietz is a journalism major. He knows how to construct sentences in a way that no overt threat is made but it's heavily implied. It's a veiled threat. Anyone who would take it differently is not to bright.

Mick, in all fairness I'm almost positive you threatened to shoot me once. "put one in you" I believe. I mean I dunt care but just stating.

Nope. Never said that.

[MaxPen]

I have to tell you guys something. I'm astounded at the lack of memory by some people here. KJ says, "Yeah, you been going after redietz ever since that SS remark he made." Monette says "You been going after redietz for a long time." Maxpussy says "You been poking redietz a long time."

So let's go back to when we all got along. Me....and maxie....and kj....and ditz. We were all very cordial with each other. Then an earth shaking event occurred. What is it been? Like, 3 years, 4 years ago? It was earth shaking to them, not to me.

I published my opinion that it was probable that Rob's double up bug story was true. maxpussy, kjocchio, and ditz were crest fallen. How could I possible go against their narrative? They were all hurt badly.

So one after another they all started attacking me. They've been attacking me to this day. These scumbag motherfuckers all started the shit. Not me. Everyone knows my policy when being trolled is to hit back and hit back hard. And that's what they've gotten. If you don't want to be insulted then don't insult me. Because, brothers, if you start insulting me I will insult your punk asses until hell freezes over. I got no quit.

So don't lay any shit on me that I'm the one that's the asshole. You three candy asses can all go fuck yourselves.

You are whining like some little girl. Just stop. It's embarrassing. I could care less that you believe the Double Up story. I can't even believe that it was so easy to own you for so long. You had me in your sig line for how long?...LOL

I pretty much stopped addressing you until you started this thread. Because frankly you're too easy. I'm done again now because I'm not into beating a dead bush. It's beyond obvious you suffered from some sort of oxygen deprivation from your heart attack.

Insult away or whatever. Nobody cares.

[MaxPen]

So this wasn't even a direct threat?

Not a matter of direct/indirect. There are a number of factors that determine what a threat is, criminally speaking. What those come down to is how a reasonable person would interpret what was written/said, however. Based on dictionary definitions.

Keep it simple for me. Is Mickey a bitch or not?

[kewlJ]

So let's go back to when we all got along. Me....and maxie....and kj....and ditz. We were all very cordial with each other. Then an earth shaking event occurred. What is it been? Like, 3 years, 4 years ago? It was earth shaking to them, not to me.

I published my opinion that it was probable that Rob's double up bug story was true. maxpussy, kjocchio, and ditz were crest fallen. How could I possible go against their narrative? They were all hurt badly.

So one after another they all started attacking me. They've been attacking me to this day. These scumbag motherfuckers all started the shit. Not me. Everyone knows my policy when being trolled is to hit back and hit back hard. And that's what they've gotten. If you don't want to be insulted then don't insult me. Because, brothers, if you start insulting me I will insult your punk asses until hell freezes over. I got no quit.

So don't lay any shit on me that I'm the one that's the asshole. You three candy asses can all go fuck yourselves.

Mickeycrimm, I have been attacking you for 3-4 years to this day? Come on man.

Look, no doubt you suddenly announcing you more or less believed the double up bug caught many of us by surprise. More than just myself, Maxpen and redietz. What made it even more surprising was that you, mickeycrimm had been the lead person, challenging Singers claim for 10 years and rightfully so. As a matter of fact, I am here because when a large group of us exited GF after the owner had his blowup, YOU mickeycrimm, suggested I come here. You specifically said there was a member here Rob Singer making ridiculous claims that I might enjoy going after.

So to hear you flip flop and suddenly announce you believed or might believe Singers double up claim was well....surprising to say the least. And if I remember correctly, you didn't really offer much of an explanation. Just that you had spoken to Singer on the phone and now suddenly believed him or believed it possible.

Well Rob Singer is a master troll. A master manipulator and a good word smith. When he suddenly came up with this double up bug, he knew he needed someone for credibility. IIRC, he contacted both you and Axelwolf doing what he does to try to manipulate them. He got what he wanted from you.

But I really don't care. That was years ago. You are free to believe in the Easter Bunny if that is what you choose. I let that go long ago. Apparently you haven't. What has taken place between you and Maxpen as a result of that, well that is between you two. I never liked it much nor thought it very mature of either of you and I think I said that a few times.

So is THAT what your attacks of redietz have been about for the last 9 months or so? You have been waiting in the weeds to get even with him all this time? Anyway, I don't care. You can hate me. Hate redietz, Hate Maxpen because we were surprised that you suddenly changed your opinion after years (nearly a decades) with no explanation. I am just long, long past that. I honestly wish you nothing but the best mickeycrimm.

[MisterV]

Is there a forum rule about disclosing whatever has been received via DM/PM?

No.

Whether by design or omission no such rule appears to have been promulgated by alan or Dan.

[kewlJ]

I can confirm that FraudJ does not appear flamboyant in person. He appears to be a submissive male to older white sugar daddies.

There is another theory floating around that you didn't actually see him. That you saw this couple and they were odd enough to stick out in your brain but Kewl just sucked it up to give himself credibility.

Boy, you and whoever you are talking to certainly have a lot of conspiracy theories floating around. Seems like a lot of making up shit, or possibilities of shit to fit your narratives.

I never knew if MaxPen saw me or not. We both seemed to have seen two different casinos (tuscany and East Cannery) taking advantage of a blind patron....a very regular, somewhat unpleasant older blind guy. So I thought there was a chance we were at the same table during one of those incidents. But it could very well be that we each experienced these casinos doing this at different times. But I can tell you that my partner did not play blackjack except in very rare circumstances, a pre-planned play we did while out of town. So he would not have been at the table had Maxpen and I been at the same table. And he wouldn't have been hanging around nearby. So there is no chance Maxpen ever saw my partner. He made that up. And now is using that because he has decided he wants to join in discrediting me.

And the same goes for Club Fortune. Because I mentioned Club Fortune once or twice, Maxpen decided he saw me and my partner there. I don't believe that.

Now Axelwolf also once stated that he saw me and my partner outside of Eastside Cannery. And it was on a day or shortly after a day that we were there. Long after Eastside cannery was no longer in my blackjack rotation, we still hit it up once a week to eat lunch at the buffet. We liked that little buffet. Great Boston Cream Pie. So once a week when on the eastside of town, maybe at Sam's town, or traveling up from Sunset Station, we would hit eastside, play our free play and eat at the buffet. So it wasn't inconceivable that Axelwolf saw me and my partner there, but he wouldn't have seen me playing blackjack as it was after I no longer played there, so any talk from either of these guys about what limits I may have played is either an honest mistake, or intentionally made up. I am trying to give the benefit of the doubt.

I played the locals type casino circuit for 11 years, so it isn't inconceivable that someone somewhere along the way from one of these forums saw me and even played at the same table. But if someone is going to claim that, they better be accurately describing me, and what stakes and how I play. If they are describing something else, they are either mistaken or lying. It is that simple.

[mickeycrimm]

I really hate being in the middle of this shit. I have no idea what's going on, and redietz tried to explain it to me in PM but I still don't understand.

Can someone clue me in as to what this is all about?

Druff, here's the chronological order of events. It started a few days ago:

In the Professional Sportsbetting thread, post #1019, redietz said "My girlfriend, who was in charge of a high stakes sports betting LV cartel, says "Hedging is for wienies!"

In post 1024 I responded "Which rub and tug was she working in?"

In post 1025 redietz responded "That was over the line and inappropriate, mickey crimm. I must formally withdraw that posted offer to fly you to the book club meeting here, and I must formally demand that you apologize.

If you don't apologize, I will stop participating here immediately. You need to learn some respect for people who have accomplished more than you gambling and who have earned their expertise. And I'm not talking about me."

In post #1027 I responded "Which would you say is more over the line? Insulting someone that you don't even know exists? Or threatening to kill another member of the forum?
Don't let the door hit you where the dog should have bit you."

If you don't know, redietz threatened to shoot me several months ago.

So this morning I found a PM by him in my inbox. Redietz is a journalism major. He knows how to construct sentences in a way that no overt threat is made but it's heavily implied. It's a veiled threat. Anyone who would take it differently is not to bright.

So this wasn't even a direct threat?

WTF?

If I go to Las Vegas without first publicly apologizing I will come to great harm. If that was said to you then you would take it as a direct threat.

[MaxPen]

I can confirm that FraudJ does not appear flamboyant in person. He appears to be a submissive male to older white sugar daddies.

There is another theory floating around that you didn't actually see him. That you saw this couple and they were odd enough to stick out in your brain but Kewl just sucked it up to give himself credibility.

Boy, you and whoever you are talking to certainly have a lot of conspiracy theories floating around. Seems like a lot of making up shit, or possibilities of shit to fit your narratives.

I never knew if MaxPen saw me or not. We both seemed to have seen two different casinos (tuscany and East Cannery) taking advantage of a blind patron....a very regular, somewhat unpleasant older blind guy. So I thought there was a chance we were at the same table during one of those incidents. But it could very well be that we each experienced these casinos doing this at different times. But I can tell you that my partner did not play blackjack except in very rare circumstances, a pre-planned play we did while out of town. So he would not have been at the table had Maxpen and I been at the same table. And he wouldn't have been hanging around nearby. So there is no chance Maxpen ever saw my partner. He made that up. And now is using that because he has decided he wants to join in discrediting me.

And the same goes for Club Fortune. Because I mentioned Club Fortune once or twice, Maxpen decided he saw me and my partner there. I don't believe that.

Now Axelwolf also once stated that he saw me and my partner outside of Eastside Cannery. And it was on a day or shortly after a day that we were there. Long after Eastside cannery was no longer in my blackjack rotation, we still hit it up once a week to eat lunch at the buffet. We liked that little buffet. Great Boston Cream Pie. So once a week when on the eastside of town, maybe at Sam's town, or traveling up from Sunset Station, we would hit eastside, play our free play and eat at the buffet. So it wasn't inconceivable that Axelwolf saw me and my partner there, but he wouldn't have seen me playing blackjack as it was after I no longer played there, so any talk from either of these guys about what limits I may have played is either an honest mistake, or intentionally made up. I am trying to give the benefit of the doubt.

I played the locals type casino circuit for 11 years, so it isn't inconceivable that someone somewhere along the way from one of these forums saw me and even played at the same table. But if someone is going to claim that, they better be accurately describing me, and what stakes and how I play. If they are describing something else, they are either mistaken or lying. It is that simple.

I never said I saw you and your partner at Eastside. You were with him at Club Fortune. He was playing a wheel poker machine with you standing behind him. You and him actually wound up eating in the cafe about 3 tables over from my wife and I.

That was the day I realized exactly who you were. Because I had seen you at Eastside Cannery prior to that but without your partner.

I never said anything about Tuscany. I also never said that we were at the same table ever.

I stand by my statement that I could to this day pick you out of a police lineup.

[mickeycrimm]

I have to tell you guys something. I'm astounded at the lack of memory by some people here. KJ says, "Yeah, you been going after redietz ever since that SS remark he made." Monette says "You been going after redietz for a long time." Maxpussy says "You been poking redietz a long time."

So let's go back to when we all got along. Me....and maxie....and kj....and ditz. We were all very cordial with each other. Then an earth shaking event occurred. What is it been? Like, 3 years, 4 years ago? It was earth shaking to them, not to me.

I published my opinion that it was probable that Rob's double up bug story was true. maxpussy, kjocchio, and ditz were crest fallen. How could I possible go against their narrative? They were all hurt badly.

So one after another they all started attacking me. They've been attacking me to this day. These scumbag motherfuckers all started the shit. Not me. Everyone knows my policy when being trolled is to hit back and hit back hard. And that's what they've gotten. If you don't want to be insulted then don't insult me. Because, brothers, if you start insulting me I will insult your punk asses until hell freezes over. I got no quit.

So don't lay any shit on me that I'm the one that's the asshole. You three candy asses can all go fuck yourselves.

You are whining like some little girl. Just stop. It's embarrassing. I could care less that you believe the Double Up story. I can't even believe that it was so easy to own you for so long. You had me in your sig line for how long?...LOL

I pretty much stopped addressing you until you started this thread. Because frankly you're too easy. I'm done again now because I'm not into beating a dead bush. It's beyond obvious you suffered from some sort of oxygen deprivation from your heart attack.

Insult away or whatever. Nobody cares.

Run and hide like you did last time you scared little bitch. Hard to stepandfetchit for the team when you are hiding in your momma's basement. If you pop your head up....U MY BITCH!

[mickeycrimm]

There is another theory floating around that you didn't actually see him. That you saw this couple and they were odd enough to stick out in your brain but Kewl just sucked it up to give himself credibility.

Boy, you and whoever you are talking to certainly have a lot of conspiracy theories floating around. Seems like a lot of making up shit, or possibilities of shit to fit your narratives.

I never knew if MaxPen saw me or not. We both seemed to have seen two different casinos (tuscany and East Cannery) taking advantage of a blind patron....a very regular, somewhat unpleasant older blind guy. So I thought there was a chance we were at the same table during one of those incidents. But it could very well be that we each experienced these casinos doing this at different times. But I can tell you that my partner did not play blackjack except in very rare circumstances, a pre-planned play we did while out of town. So he would not have been at the table had Maxpen and I been at the same table. And he wouldn't have been hanging around nearby. So there is no chance Maxpen ever saw my partner. He made that up. And now is using that because he has decided he wants to join in discrediting me.

And the same goes for Club Fortune. Because I mentioned Club Fortune once or twice, Maxpen decided he saw me and my partner there. I don't believe that.

Now Axelwolf also once stated that he saw me and my partner outside of Eastside Cannery. And it was on a day or shortly after a day that we were there. Long after Eastside cannery was no longer in my blackjack rotation, we still hit it up once a week to eat lunch at the buffet. We liked that little buffet. Great Boston Cream Pie. So once a week when on the eastside of town, maybe at Sam's town, or traveling up from Sunset Station, we would hit eastside, play our free play and eat at the buffet. So it wasn't inconceivable that Axelwolf saw me and my partner there, but he wouldn't have seen me playing blackjack as it was after I no longer played there, so any talk from either of these guys about what limits I may have played is either an honest mistake, or intentionally made up. I am trying to give the benefit of the doubt.

I played the locals type casino circuit for 11 years, so it isn't inconceivable that someone somewhere along the way from one of these forums saw me and even played at the same table. But if someone is going to claim that, they better be accurately describing me, and what stakes and how I play. If they are describing something else, they are either mistaken or lying. It is that simple.

I never said I saw you and your partner at Eastside. You were with him at Club Fortune. He was playing a wheel poker machine with you standing behind him. You and him actually wound up eating in the cafe about 3 tables over from my wife and I.

That was the day I realized exactly who you were. Because I had seen you at Eastside Cannery prior to that but without your partner.

I never said anything about Tuscany. I also never said that we were at the same table ever.

Why didn't you and your wife, monette, go over and say hi?

[kewlJ]

I never said I saw you and your partner at Eastside. You were with him at Club Fortune. He was playing a wheel poker machine with you standing behind him. You and him actually wound up eating in the cafe about 3 tables over from my wife and I.

Well You are WRONG! He did not play wheel poker. Our machine play consisted of jacks or better or bonus video poker played to get the disproportionate mailer bonuses. No wheel poker, no VP poker variants including the 100% game. Jacks or better if full pay, if not bonus poker.

And never did I just stand behind him watching him play. I don't like video poker. I played it ONLY because a fellow AP convinced me it was a good AP opportunity for a little supplemental income. But I didn't like playing it. And about the only thing worse I can think of would be standing there watching somebody else play.

Sounds like you may have seen two people that matched our ages, which at that time would have been a guy in his early 30's and a guy in his late 40's or maybe 50. I can probably walk into any casino any time of the day and find two people matching that description playing or eating together.

[mickeycrimm]

Fucking MickeyCrimm is such a Scared Little Bitch that he is calling for the police to protect him.
Fucking Phony.
Fucking flip flops on his political stances and covid.
He's basically a democrat.
Or maybe just a rat who likes to call the cops over nothing.
I hope Redietz gets you and you keep looking over your shoulder.
Keep posting up where you go and where you been.
You left enough breadcrumbs over the years.
Stupid Queer Bitch who thinks Harvey Milk and the Fags of San Francisco are cool.
Talk about the Broke Back Boys.
He's the leader!
Always has been.
RIP

What's the matter. maxpussy ain't packing you up the ass hard enough. Quit crying to me about it, girl.

I've never posted up where I'm going or where I'm at. Yeah sure, I've posted pics of joints I was at two months prior. Go hang out and wait for me to return sometime in the next decade.

Kill yourself by climbing up your ego and jumping down to your IQ.