Douche Dawg

[MDawg]

Just remember though

I really don't care what people think about me.

, which is why he posts volumes almost daily trying to establish that he is what (and who) he claims. Except of course when he loses track of what he's said...which is when he shifts to claiming that he is NOT who (or what) he claims.

This poor fool could not make it clearer: HE IS THE MOST TORTURED SOUL IN THE HISTORY OF ONLINE CONCOCTIONISTS!

It's just way too funny watching nearly everybody everywhere laugh at and make fun of him for being a proven liar about his BS blackjack claims, and how so many successful people just bother the shit out of him.

If there's ever been anybody more incapable of trying and trying to change other people's opinions about himself, that person hasn't been born yet.

[MisterV]

Yeah, KJ has lied...he admitted it.

I have no problem with it as he articulated a reasonable explanation for it.

But YOU Mr. Hound...you've no justification for the tissues of lies you've used to wipe the asses of gambling forums for years.

Oh, we KNOW that you're lying, but the REASON is murky.

Whatever, playing Whack a Mole is great sport.

[coach belly]

what does Johnson have to do with MDawg?

In an earlier discussion about MDawg, tewlj made the claim that the maximum number of Blackjack hands won in a row is about 15. I referenced a piece where Johnson was reported to have won 40 hands in a row.

That's the connection.

[MDawg]

V, even you with your inexplicable reasons for sticking up for UNKewlJ in qualified ways at times, knows that the jury of his peers (meaning, pretty much everyone on all these forums) has already come back with a solid conviction on multiple fraud counts with regards to the UNKewl one.

As far as MDawg, it's primarily just one babbling fool repeating the same nonsense without providing any back up. His ongoing nonsense just amounts to “I don’t think he could be winning” - whereas in his case he’s been caught in multiple lies and even admitted to a few.

What's funniest about the UNKewl :clown: is he keeps repeating himself (at great length) as if he has 'stablished anything. The only thing he has established is how obsessed he is with MDawg Tater and RSinger! Repeating yourself ad nauseam without providing a shred of proof to back up your claims, doth not make a case.

[coach belly]

Ginger Adams Otis "reported" on one lucky session. Why use the word "reported?" Did she witness it or not? Record it live or not? Film it or not? If she did not witness it herself, who "reported" it to her? Is it on tape? Is it hearsay? Why am I asking these questions when someone as detail-oriented as yourself is not?

I'm not inclined to audit the mechanics of each newspaper article I read. This wasn't an opinion piece, I'm comfortable with the examination of fact-checkers and editors in that regard.

[coach belly]

"He demonstrated how he does it." LOL. What did he demonstrate? What is "it?"

Whatever you were referring to here...

how he does it.

Maybe I was mistaken, what did you mean?

[coach belly]

"In front of a reliable witness."

Who is reliable? Shackleford? <YES>

What makes him a reliable witness? <CONSTRUCT>

He knows basic math of gambling? <YES>

That makes him "reliable?" <YES>

"Reliable" to whom? <WOV MEMBERS>

"The event was fully reported."

How was it "fully reported?" <POSTED ON WOV>

Were there line by line notes shared with the audience? <RELEVANT EQUIVALENT WAS SHARED>

Video? Why not? <LIKELY PROHIBITED BY CASINO>

What is your definition of "fully reported?" <ALL RELEVANT INFO>

[MaxPen]

I don't know what the purpose of all these quotes are?

It was axiomatic to we One L's that "If you can't bowl them over with your brilliance, then baffle them with your bullshit."

KJ, no one will ever give the slightest hoot about anything you might post about MDawg. Or, for that matter, about MrV. Or, versa, what they post about you. Their lives are well over, in terms of money made, and a profession locked into. Neither tries to develop themselves, however, online. But, you, on the other hand, have done nothing in comparison. So, like Tasha, you really and actually ought to just give it up. Just say that you are getting on with your life, and, then, fuck off online, for good. How many more decades are you willing to devote to this stuff? If you have a family, think of them, as well. Anyone can flush himself down the toilet of life. Ha.

To be fair. Other than time spent sleeping in tunnels FraudJ pretty much resides in or near public restroom stalls. So I'd say he pretty much resides on the edge or as close to a toilet flush as one can get.

[coach belly]

I have no problem with it as he articulated a reasonable explanation for it.

What was the reasonable explanation for fabricating the lawsuit story, and continuing to lie about it for weeks?

[kewlJ]

He demonstrated how he does it, in front of a reliable witness. The event was fully reported.

Is this comment in regard to the session that Shackleford witnessed, where Mdawg won a small amount?

If so, Shackleford was paid for that. That hardly makes him a reliable independent witness. Additionally, he is prohibited from speaking to what he saw or thinks by a DNA imposed on him, specifically so he can't. WTF? WHY??.

As much as I call him now compromised by his actions on his forum, I hope he wouldn't take it to the level of lying for Mdawg. This is a man who has a reputation as one of the leading gambling math experts, to the point that the new media and television shows frequently call on his for his expert math opinions. I surely hope he wouldn't throw that reputation down the drain to protect this Mdawg character. But we don't know do we because he is prohibited by an agreement requested and still enforced by Mdawg not to say what he thinks.

Additionally, no one, not myself, not Axelwolf, not any one of dozens of real players that challenge Mdawgs claims, have ever suggested that he didn't or couldn't win a short session (extremely small sample size). That he did so is proof of nothing...NADA.

That would be like if I videotaped myself playing a short session of blackjack in which I won 4 hands and lost 3 and said "see that is proof of my claims".

Belly, are you ever going to stop playing these retarded (we tar dead) games?

Players can win at gambling. They can win short-term or small sample size by doing almost anything. Playing black/red at roulette, playing a progression betting system. Playing almost any of the many disproven voodoo strategies or "systems". Nobody is questioning that.

BUT to win long-term, like 5 years as Mdawg claims, it has to be something, some form of advantage play that turns the math to the players advantage. Mdawg has never, never come close to demonstrating or explaining that. he says things like "betting into hot streaks", "I win because I have a large bankroll" (lots of money). And a whole lot of other gambling voodoo jibberish. he has even claimed he is Rainman.

So just knock your usual trolling shit off belly. This guy no more wins (long-term) than Jack climbed up that beanstalk and slayed the Giants. He no more wins than Singer drove his Newell RV around the west playing the double up bug. He no more wins than Tasha will win the WSoP next year, or than BBB will win the Boston Marathon.

Gambling IS Math!! I am sorry that AinQ freaks out when I say that, but it is true. And if you are going to claim long-term winning at gambling, you should at least be able to explain what you are doing to flip them math in your favor. Everything else is Jack shimmying up that beanstalk.

[coach belly]

Shackleford was paid for that. That hardly makes him a reliable independent witness. Additionally, he is prohibited from speaking to what he saw or thinks by a DNA imposed on him, specifically so he can't. WTF? WHY??.

The fact that he was paid by DarkOz to witness the session doesn't disqualify him as a reliable independent witness.

Expert witnesses get paid, DarkOz enlisted Shack for the MD session. DO previously paid him to testify as an expert witness on his behalf in an action brought against him by a casino.

He must have considered him to be reliable, and hasn't questioned his reliability since.

Everyone but you seems to be satisfied that all information relevant to the actual challenge has been fully reported, and confirmed as complete and truthful by the witness.

Whatever else the NDA covers is irrelevant, all parties agreed not to disclose anything other than what's been reported.

[coach belly]

I'm going to feature it in a paper that I'll publish on my blog.

Oh brother....our resident Martian must be agitated over all the UFO press lately.

Send us each a hard copy, but please be kind and print it on 2-ply, or else most won't "read" it.

[kewlJ]

The fact that he was paid by DarkOz to witness the session doesn't disqualify him as a reliable independent witness.

The fact that he signed a NDA to not say what he saw and thinks disqualifies him as a witness.

What witness, paid or unpaid have you ever heard of take the stand and when asked what he saw or his expert opinion on what he saw, say I can't say because I agreed not to?

[coach belly]

What witness, paid or unpaid have you ever heard of take the stand and when asked what he saw or his expert opinion on what he saw, say I can't say because I agreed not to?

Well-drafted NDAs routinely include provisions that eliminate confidentiality obligations when the relevant individual is subject to the order of a court or another governmental agency.

That doesn't apply here.

[MisterV]

Why did douche dawg insist on a NDA?

Why muzzle the witness?

Slimeball tactics by a manipulator.

[kewlJ]

Why did douche dawg insist on a NDA?

Why muzzle the witness?

Slimeball tactics by a manipulator.

I am not going to look for it, but I know there is a post where Dan Druff questioned the same thing. If what Mdawg claimed was anywhere close to reality, he would want Wizard to confirm. The fact that he went to such lengths to prevent that, tells all you need to know.

Of course Dan Druff can always weigh in again. Dan?

[coach belly]

he would want Wizard to confirm.

The Wizard did confirm, a condition of the challenge was that the session be witnessed and the results confirmed by the Wizard.

Everything else was superfluous and irrelevant.

[kewlJ]

he would want Wizard to confirm.

The Wizard did confirm, a condition of the challenge was that the session be witnessed and the results confirmed by the Wizard.

Everything else was superfluous and irrelevant.

That little one session challenge was never in question. No one questioned that. Not Axel. Not me. No one else.

What is questioned or challenged is his claim of all the winning over the past 5 years (long-term).

The closest Wizard can and has come is when this topic comes up specific to Mdawg wizard will say something like "I will repeat no system can overcome the house edge and make a winning system" (meaning long-term).

Wizard has done this probably 3 or 4 times. Why do you think he chooses those exact words? He is basically saying, as much as he can that Mdawg is playing some long disproven system (probably some sort of progression wagering), that can NOT result in long-term winning. And yet according to his reports...5 years now of winning. I speculate that it is some sort of progression because that would result in many winning sessions, but every once in a while a bigger losing session that would wipe out all those wins and more.

If Mdawg just doesn't mention that once in a while bigger losing session, everything else about his claims work. All the winning sessions. All the high end compos. The casinos and personnel not caring once bit. You add that piece that he is conveniently leaving out and everything falls into place. The problem is that once piece changes him from a winning to losing player. Just like they discovered when Wizard and Mdawg went over his records.

[coach belly]

Why do you think he chooses those exact words?

He chose those words long before he witnessed or contemplated MDawg or his play.

MDawg's session report stated that there was no progression system wagering, other than pressing up his bets during a winning streak. There was one repeater streak in the shoe, and he caught it.

The Wizard confirmed that's what happened.

He's gone over MDawg's records, he knows if MD has been winning or not.

Why hasn't he thrown any challenge flags?

[kewlJ]

He's gone over MDawg's records, he knows if MD has been winning or not.

Why hasn't he thrown any challenge flags?

Ahhhh....he did.

Where and why do you think that statement "additionally Wizard and I went over my records and I am about even for this trip" came from or about?

Prior to that statement Mdawg had posted wins over the previous 7 months totaling $500k. And then that statement.

That was Mike going over the records and calling him out to come clean. And he really only came half clean. What he claims was "about even" was really pretty good in the red.

I mean what good is a fucking half clean dog? It smells less?