kewlJ

[kewlJ]

I'd rather read a typically unprepared kew fake story filled with poorly thought-out lies and watch him continually go down in flames, than laugh through some pitifully meaningless nonsense like this and wait for everyone to call you a retard.

(I have moved these comment's from Rob from another thread, so as not to contribute to the hijacking of that thread that Rob began)


Of course you would rather read anything about me Rob. You are obsessed with me.

You absolutely hate that I am a winning advantage player, for many years, using math and advantage play techniques to win, while you are a degenerate type losing gambler, using typical voodoo concepts and plays like progressive wagering (losing system player), "special plays", machines telling you hot and cold cycles....for God sakes. And like all degenerate gamblers you are a long term losing player using these losing gambling concepts. You might get lucky for a short period of time, but that is all it is...luck.

By the way, this hate and obsession with winning AP type players is nothing new with Rob. If you look back through his history, he has had the same hate and obsession with many real winning AP players, including mickeycrimm. And sadly, Rob has used some of the same attacks (recycled). This is a life long degenerage gambler, who just hates that there are some players that play with a mathematical advantage and win, while he donates.

From this point on Rob, why don't we just cut out the middle man, and you send me the portion of your social security check that you intend to donate each month.

[kewlJ]

MrV vs Rob Singer Gambling.

Rob is a degenerate gambler, employing long disproven voodoo -EV concepts. He may win a little short term, but overall he is a long-term losing player.

MrV is also a player playing -EV, who like Rob, may win short-term, even a couple years at a time, as he has truthfully stated, but overall is a losing long-term player.

The real difference is that MrV understand he is playing -EV and will lose over the long run. As a recreational player, gambling for enjoyment, he is fine with that.

Rob claims ridiculous nonsense about how he overcomes the -Ev with all kinds of voodoo nonsense. We have all seen it a hundred times with degenerate players. I first saw it with my grandfather and horse racing. All kind of excuses, and twisted reasoning, and then right back to the voodoo nonsense. I think the most disturbing part was the "I am about even" answers (shades of Mdawg) when of course they are way in the red.

The thing I always wonder: Are these people lying to us, or are they lying to themselves. Clearly Mdawg is lying to us. And Rob, when in a fit of desperation, stole the double up bug play from Nestor/Kane, is lying to us. But does part of them think they are losing because of bad variance, and it will soon turn around and these voodoo concepts they hold so dear will start to payoff? I think there might be some of this degenerate mindset with even these guys, who know they are lying.

I probably should be more accepting of the losing players. It is their losing that makes it possible for us AP's to win. All AP's know this. I just get really frustrated with the asinine nonsense about winning using long disproven voodoo losing concepts. If you are going to claim you win, at least have some math, something you are doing that mathematically backs it up. Is that really too much to ask and a supposed gambling forum?

[kewlJ]

MrV, any problems with or comments about the part of the above analysis involving you?

[jdog]

Actually I felt kewl obtaining someone's win/loss numbers through a friend was among one of the most plausible claims he's made. But then he gets fast and loose with the details about what he had access to and the whole thing gets sketchy again. Story consistency is always where he gets into trouble, which is the hallmark of a liar.

[MisterV]

MrV, any problems with or comments about the part of the above analysis involving you?

No, not at all.

Lifetime I am down about $66K now; I was down about $68K a few years ago but then due to happy variance / hand pays I got it down to about $56K.

But alas all good things come to an end: the hand pays dried up.

I occasionally make a BIG bet, hoping for a massive win; no joy to date, but a guy hit the BIG ONE on a machine I'd been playing and walked away from shortly before he hit: I was genuinely happy for him and not jealous: go figure.

[kewlJ]

MrV, any problems with or comments about the part of the above analysis involving you?

No, not at all.

Lifetime I am down about $66K now; I was down about $68K a few years ago but due to happy variance / hand pays I got it down to about $56K.

But alas all good thngs come to an end.

I pay to play.

I occasionally make a BIG bet, hoping for a massive win; no joy to date, but a guy hit the BIG ONE on a machine I'd been playing and walked away from shortly before he hit: I was genuinely happy for him and not jealous: go figure.

MrV. It is very interesting that you keep such precise records of your gambling. Most recreational players do not do that. Advantage players do. I have always thought maybe there was an advantage player buried deep inside you. Do you do any minor things that could be considered advantage play, that may serve to reduce loses, rather than turn the tables completely? Have you ever wanted to incorporate any AP techniques? I know Alan always said that playing with an advantage would make it less fun for him. And that is fair enough for a recreational play.

[MisterV]

KJ, I keep accurate records for several reasons: mainly for tax purposes, but also so as not to bullshit myself about how I do.

As for AP: I doubt I'll ever be one.

You see, the ONLY slots I play are old school, three reel dinosaurs such as Double 3X4X5X pay and Red White and Blue, and I doubt there is or could be any AP moves for these games.

If there are I'd welcome learning about it.

I eschew and do not play VP or ANY of the newer, non-old school games.

Luddites such as myself stick to our comfort zones.

[kewlJ]

Actually I felt kewl obtaining someone's win/loss numbers through a friend was among one of the most plausible claims he's made. But then he gets fast and loose with the details about what he had access to and the whole thing gets sketchy again. Story consistency is always where he gets into trouble, which is the hallmark of a liar.

Enough time has passed that I will make this statement ONCE.

I have a good friend that works the pit at a strip casinos. Ironically that friendship was born from a card counter/pit person situation. He was working the pit on a day that I had what is still my greatest day (or shoe to be more exact). I have shared that story, and am not going to do so again here. This believe it or not is a management position. Thus my use of the terms exec. Probably should have just said management.

I am extremely fortunate to have a friend in such a position. Anyone not understanding how powerfully beneficial that would be for a card counter, doesn't know card counting. And I am not talking about anything like collusion, or allowing me to play when he shouldn't, and looking the other way. That doesn't and has never occurred.

But as management, and with the computer right there in the pit, he does have access to information about me (think database info), that is extremely valuable. Card counters draw heat and consequences that they sometimes don't even know about, because there was no back off. Maybe the next time you play there is, or maybe you are just very much on their radar, which is a situation you would want to avoid. (shorten longevity). So most card counters wouldn't know that, if no official backoff had occurred.

I am lucky enough that I know that and know this information and can take whatever steps I need to have the situation blow over. (these periods are usually temporary). So I avoid that property and personnel involved for a period, avoiding that next pending backoff or baring. Extremely beneficial and powerful in terms of longevity, which is my top priority. I am so, so fortunate to have that via this friendship.

Getting caught up in meaningless forum garbage, as I sometimes do, I discussed Mdawg and his claims with my friends, who sometimes reads these forums. His immediate response was what Mdawg claimed just isn't happening. Same response most APs and real players have. So here is where I went wrong. I asked him to look around and ask around and find out what he could find out about a higher end player playing blackjack and bacarát that had been comped suites for 6 straight months (at that time). I didn't know what if anything he would or could dig up. Turns out he did. And when you think about it there just aren't that many players that meet that criteria, so probably wasn't that hard.

When he handed me that info, just gambling records win loss for that trip, I was giddy. I knew I had the dawg. Oh he would come up with some bullshit answer and triple down attacks on me, but I had proof that his claims were bullshit, which we all knew. Turns out Mdawg panicked and pulled that "about even" line, which for all intensive purposes ended any credibility and run.

BUT in sharing everything that I shared including source, I put my friend in jeopardy. I never really considered that. Again, I should have never done that for stupid internet garbage, as much as I wanted to. Massive regret on my part. Luckily nothing came of it.

If you or anyone thinks it is far fetched that people in Vegas are friends with or know someone in the industry, you don't understand Las vegas and the small town that it is despite 2 million people.

If you think it usual for a pit person and a card counter AP to have a friendship, maybe you don't know or understand pit critters. Many of them are AP's or card counters at some level in their own time. there is a natural connection.

If you think friends don't do favors for friends, even stupid things they probably shouldn't, well they do.

So I am not sure exactly what is so unbelievable about this experience. I mean it is not like I said I got the information from some top secret Isreali commando (Rob).

I reside in Las Vegas. I have a friend that works the pits and has access to certain Information. I asked for a favor, I never should have and he delivered. End of story.

[kewlJ]

KJ, I keep accurate records for several reasons: mainly for tax purposes, but also so as not to bullshit myself about how I do.

As for AP: I doubt I'll ever be one.

You see, the ONLY slots I play are old school, three reel dinosaurs such as Double 3X4X5X pay and Red White and Blue, and I doubt there is or could be any AP moves for these games.

If there are I'd welcome learning about it.

I eschew and do not play VP or ANY of the newer, non-old school games.

Luddites such as myself stick to our comfort zones.

Thats all good MrV. I actually appreciate players such as yourself that say "hey I am a recreational gambler, gambling for enjoyment. Alan said this as well.

Maybe it is because we have so many players that lie about it. Some on this site. Some on other sites we all read and some of you participate on, many more on YouTube and other platforms. It is almost refreshing to hear a guy say "yeah I lose. It is entertainment for me and that is why they call it gambling".

[MisterV]

I actually reported my gambling winnings and paid income tax on them the past couple years.

But I have a question about you getting info about the Hound: how could the pit critter find him and his info if in fact he didn't win and get comped like he claimed?

Wouldn't he be just one of millions of losing turds circling in the casino's toilet, and if so, why would he be noticed?

[kewlJ]

He plays rated so the win/ LOSS is recorded. He also gets comps based on those losses (another reason it is recorded).

And yes, I am quite sure there are many whale, mini-whale (Mdawgs level is not really whale) players that fit that level of play. What was unusual about Mdawg was the 7 month long Las Vegas trip (6 months when I inquired) which include 7 straight months of comped suites. NO there are not a million players that are comped suites for 7 straight nights. You find that info (which he did) and you have your guy.

And why all those comped suites and presumably gambling wasn't at one location, that info can still be obtained, which it was. That is all I can say about that.

Really I don't want to rehash this any further, even though time has passed. I am sure you can understand that. If you have more questions MrV, I am happy to answer privately.

Mdawg was caught. Bad decision to do so (on my part, involving someone else), but never-the-less, he was caught. I think everyone understands that. If they don't they don't want to understand or believe. And now he is just a troll. I guess pretty good troll, but still just a troll. That is what his gambling story always was, from day 1.

The only reason he lasted as long as he did was because of the pictures. They sort of provided a false sense of credibility. For example piles of cash and chip in no way prove anything about winning. They prove the player had access to some cash and chips. Same with the suites. I know one very credible AP, that doesn't even think most of the things in those pictures were directly related to Mdawg. he believes Mdawg has a friend or associate (family member) that is actually the higher roller, and Mdawg just had access to that stuff, which gave him a false sense of credibility. I have no real opinion on that part of it.

[MDawg]

Already had this one down, lie #5, just that he stumbled over his feet past couple days trying to "clean it up" but only made it worse.

Story consistency is always where he gets into trouble, which is the hallmark of a liar.

And yes, that's exactly what happened over the past two days.

He should have kept his mouth shut. We would have thought he was a horse, and let him through.

The thirty-three most major UNKewl lies I can think of concern (1) his lie about Moses showing up at a condo he claimed he lived at, (2) a condo it turned out that he has no ownership in and does not even live in, where he can’t even get his story straight about what is and what is not allowed by the condo CCRs, and lies about “renting it out” AirBnB style, (3) his faking his own death, (4) lying about ever having been robbed, (5) the nonsense about MGM execs showing up at his apartment on Halloween to give him player records on someone who isn't even MDawg, (6) the backrooming lawsuit, (7) the lies about news stories being broadcast about the backrooming incident, lies about the fictional settlement related to the fabricated incident, (8) the lie about being doxxed, or ever having his name placed in any casino database, (9) the rigged shuffler, (10) $50. free play for $100K win on a slot progressive, (11) $50K multi hand VP hit, (12) lied about hitting a $4000. Royal at Hooters (now OP) with $15. free play. (13) winning a car, (14) the lie about never asking anyone else to prove anything, (15) the lie about knowing attorney Nersesian well or at all, and having him on "speed dial," (16) lies that made it clear that he has never filed taxes as a professional gambler, (17) fabricated sports bets, (18) lies about that he has calculated his exact "expected win" over a decade and a half period, (19) lies about ever playing blackjack other than red green chip action as cover for a sugar daddy hustle, (20) lying about how “many” APs know him, (21) lies about how “many” APs have offered to “hire him” for their blackjack teams, (22) lying and claiming that he has never told others how they should post and about what, (23) lying about never posting again about this or that or on this or that forum, (24) lying about why he was nuked from WOV, trying to imply that he left on his own accord, (25) lying about that he “always discloses his socks up front” (q.v. Magister), (26) lying about having gone to college after claiming for years that he never did, (27) lies about the "oily" surfboard, (28) lied about whether or not he was gay, (29) the lie about even having a dead "soul mate" which he recanted, (30) continuing to lie about what the “about even” statement of MDawg means even after realizing that it means absolutely nothing, (31) a concocted electronic blackjack game he hadn't "studied up" on enough before presenting to the crowd, (32) Lied about and misquoted the Wizard, (33) caught up in conflicting lies about a blackjack play where he couldn’t even keep track of whether or not the game was electronic.

That rigged shuffler story, besides not making any sense, reaffirmed in my mind that this guy really doesn't play much table games, because I'd expect such nonsense from a recreational player, not a card counter.

I would put FraudJ's claim of a $100k lick on $50 free play as less likely than any of Grandpa Newell's stories.

I do know. You're lying and you buried yourself yet again. Get help....RIP

He would be an idiot if he gave the chance of your 50 to 100k story to be anything but zero.

He also can't give us details about what machine hit the $100K for $50 freeplay because...no amount of "studying up" can get him out from under these lies.

And as usual, as he gets hemmed in, he is changing the story on some of these. Even renounced the existence of his "soul mate" claims he lied about him and his gay marriage too!

[MDawg]

Enough time has passed that I will make this statement ONCE.

But of course, he has already made it...TWICE.

There has never been a weakass little twit who nervously keeps on claiming "I'm OK with someone who doesn't believe me" and then goes off on rants and whining about not being believed as if someone just cut his tiny nuts off, as the serial lying kew.

[MDawg]

Actually, let's get to something more interesting, and truthful (almost nothing UNKewLyingJ says is true).

I hadn't really thought so much about the "groomer" term SoxFan keeps using,

Wow, the kewl-groomer still squealing like a little bitch, amazing, hey hey!!!!

Bbbwwwaaahhhhhh, the kewl-groomer makin the scene with yet more bulls-shits narrative, hey hey!!!!

until today.

SeedValue already verified that UNKewlJ was groomed as a yout,

I’m also the only one who figured out what Jason does for a living. Blackjack was always a cover story, you guys just didn’t believe it lol.

To be fair Kewj didn’t get into the escort business until after his partner passed away. It’s my understanding that him, and his late partner did do some low rolling AP things around town just enough to get by.

Once I confirmed all this I kind of felt sorry for the dude. I let him be, because it wasn’t worth my time to do a full Mdawg report. The guy is literally just a pathetic lonely gay escort. Maybe he makes up all these lies for entertainment. Is clear that he spends most of his days reading, and posting on every gambling forum on the internet. Sad man real sad lol neighbor guy fucked his brain up real good

but, so does this mean that SoxFan believes that the groomee has now become the groomer? But I thought UNKewlJ was more the groomed (still) for the older sugar daddy.

I'm going to have to now even jump on the belief that he really is a low level card counter that had a sugar daddy like most of the AP community believes.

MaxPen specifically described how UNKewlJ was seen with older, unattractive, overweight types - obviously he's still being groomed. Although, who knows, after killing them off like he killed off at least one of his last sugar daddy's (the soul mate whose existence he disavowed), maybe now he concentrates more on the younger types?

At the end of the day though, I'm sure he hustles whatever he can, from whomever he can.

This is just another lie that you have been caught up in.

The only thing verifiable about you is you're a low level blackjack player spotted in the wild a few times. Once at blackjack tables with red and green chips in front of you and the rest in the accompaniment of an older Sugar Daddy.

Your posing about having BobN on speed dial, working for Grosjean (you know the guy who calls you a salamander), living in the Panorama being carted up and down the Strip by the car service, being databased as KewlJ, and a myriad of other things are all false. As to be expected by a complete and total fraud.

Anyone that believes a single word out of your mouth has to be a complete and utter idiot at this point. You should definitely quit posting as you feel so inclined to do every time you get completely hemmed in by your non-stop lies.

[kewlJ]

Mdawg, what the fuck is the matter with you !!??!! You are accusing someone of felonious illegal crimes. I could bring libel action against you and probably have you disbarred in the process (that is if you are a real attorney). And the fact that I am anonymous and try to maintain my anonymity, would not be defense. Read California's internet cyber harassment laws. They include saying false statements you know are false to liable someone. Exactly what YOU are doing and have been doing. Dont push me fella.

[smurgerburger]

But kewlJ....your identity would be exposed!

[MDawg]

Guess who said this UNKewlJ?

He's pretty much a pathological liar you can't believe anything he says. But also probably a sociopath and they have no guilt no shame no embarrassment. They simply make up lies to cover the other lies.

Could it be perhaps that well known AP you used to think is on your side?

But it was so well said I decided to just adopt it for myself.

How about this one UNKewlJ? What well known AP said this:

I thought that was common knowledge about Kewlj being a male prostitute.

[MisterV]

What was unusual about Mdawg was the 7 month long Las Vegas trip (6 months when I inquired) which include 7 straight months of comped suites. NO there are not a million players that are comped suites for 7 straight nights. You find that info (which he did) and you have your guy.

OK,thanks.

I see the Hound is gone full-bore homophobic on you again: funny how the more you zing him the harder he pushes back: keep it up.

[MDawg]

If ever there was evidence that drugs and alcohol rot the brain and skew perspective - V would be a poster child.

How can you read the same things as the rest of us and get such the wrong read.

Sorry Dawg, but I think you're misreading the tea leaves on this one.

KJ is far from a "tortured soul."

He said he'd troll you guys, and he did.

The audience here is so small so as to be insignificant to him in the scheme of things.

We aren't a family, we're anonymous strangers, and what we say or write about one another, while therapeutic to the sender, means less than a fart in a hurricane in the scheme of things.

With that in mind keep hurling your feces but I suspect the tumult he caused was by design, and perhaps even to his liking.

He'll weather the storm just fine.

A lot of people would like to play poker with you after seeing that post.

[MisterV]

If ever there was evidence that drugs and alcohol rot the brain and skew perspective - V would be a poster child.

How can you read the same things as the rest of us and get such the wrong read.

C'mon, Hound...did you forget I haven't had a drink since the nineties?

As for weed, my use is regular albeit moderate, and it did not prevent me from having a successful law practice and retiring "very comfortably."

Sure, I question some of KJ's claims, but I believe the core claims that he lives in LV and has made a living as a card counter over the years.

It may be that some of his tangential claims are specious but he DID say he was going to troll the trolls.

Anyway, enjoy your time in Tahoe: I assume you are woriking remotely?

Any court appearances that will require you to leave your summer nest?