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  1. #721
    I have no idea if more AMA members are registered Republicans or Democrats. Based on the fact that Dems outnumber Republicans by seven or eight million in the US, I'd have to make some kind of stat guess that there are more Dems, but based on socioeconomics, I'd just as soon guess Republican AMA plurality.

    However, having said that, it's pretty clear that a formal bureaucratic "cancel culture," -- call it what it is, CENSORSHIP -- was in play from the top down for all major US medical institutions and organizations vis-a-vis the Covid-19 not-vaccines. I say "not-vaccines" because that is their current legal status in at least one US state, which may serve as precedent for the country. So a medical cancel culture censorship was clearly being employed (or forced upon) all of these medical organizations.

  2. #722
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    AMA may be liberal but can't really not be. They want to advance things from previous ways. Conservatives are against such things in a general sense.
    Advancement is not possible in a free market economy.

    Advancement happens when Chuck Schumer proposes a spending bill, and Mike Johnson pretends to oppose it until his next AIPAC contribution comes through.
    I don't need or really even want the $$$ (I have way, way more than enough and I don't hunger for material possessions)

  3. #723
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    I say "not-vaccines" because that is their current legal status in at least one US state, which may serve as precedent for the country.
    Which state are you referring to here?

  4. #724
    Originally Posted by jdog View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    I say "not-vaccines" because that is their current legal status in at least one US state, which may serve as precedent for the country.
    Which state are you referring to here?

    A lawsuit in California is moving forward regarding whether Covid-19 vaccines were indeed vaccines in the generally defined sense. Near as I can tell, the argument against was that the actions requiring "vaccination" are no longer in force, therefore moot. But not being a lawyer, I'm not sure this was the main thrust of the counter-argument. This lawsuit figures to go all the way, as the damages involved will be earth-shaking. Basically, Covid-19 vaccines as "vaccines" didn't pass the first legal checklist, so on we go.

    This is going to be fascinating, as what'll be examined is the retro-fitting of the definition of the word and industry of "vaccines" to include the mRNA products. It becomes a question of whether an industry can legally medically redefine a product based on its own immediate preferences, as opposed to a general, accepted definition of a product that's been used for decades.

    https://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datasto...7/22-55908.pdf

  5. #725
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    It becomes a question of whether an industry can legally medically redefine a product based on its own immediate preferences, as opposed to a general, accepted definition of a product that's been used for decades.
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    AMA may be liberal but can't really not be. They want to advance things from previous ways.
    If it's been used for decades, it's probably stupid and backward.
    I don't need or really even want the $$$ (I have way, way more than enough and I don't hunger for material possessions)

  6. #726
    Originally Posted by Don Perignom View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    It becomes a question of whether an industry can legally medically redefine a product based on its own immediate preferences, as opposed to a general, accepted definition of a product that's been used for decades.
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    AMA may be liberal but can't really not be. They want to advance things from previous ways.
    If it's been used for decades, it's probably stupid and backward.


    LOL. God bless those who know better. There's a lot of that going around, especially among the young.

    I'm finally catching up with some of the psychological literature. There's a real problem with males ages 15-32/33 right now. They appear to be behaviorally limited, frightened to death, and socially/sexually retarded. It's a kind of serious behavioral retardation that synchs up with widespread internet use. I suspect it has to do with reliance on porn and conducting large chunks of social interaction anonymously. Plus the middle class has been thinned and that income bell curve flattened, so you have a lot of poor males who can't get laid regularly. Putting off marriage until their 30's. Just an entirely different animal, propped up by the illusion that mastering some transient tech gives them knowledge/skills/depth of insight that eludes older people.

    But they evade evaluation of any kind (intellectual/financial/sexual), which is why anonymity is so popular.

    My late wife, with doctorates in anthropology and demography, would have loved this stuff. She foresaw the rise of rap and hip hop when they were a glean in the LA music industry's eyes.

    Deep thoughts, as they say on SNL. LOL.

  7. #727
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by Don Perignom View Post

    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    AMA may be liberal but can't really not be. They want to advance things from previous ways.
    If it's been used for decades, it's probably stupid and backward.


    LOL. God bless those who know better. There's a lot of that going around, especially among the young.

    I'm finally catching up with some of the psychological literature. There's a real problem with males ages 15-32/33 right now. They appear to be behaviorally limited, frightened to death, and socially/sexually retarded. It's a kind of serious behavioral retardation that synchs up with widespread internet use. I suspect it has to do with reliance on porn and conducting large chunks of social interaction anonymously. Plus the middle class has been thinned and that income bell curve flattened, so you have a lot of poor males who can't get laid regularly. Putting off marriage until their 30's. Just an entirely different animal, propped up by the illusion that mastering some transient tech gives them knowledge/skills/depth of insight that eludes older people.

    But they evade evaluation of any kind (intellectual/financial/sexual), which is why anonymity is so popular.

    My late wife, with doctorates in anthropology and demography, would have loved this stuff. She foresaw the rise of rap and hip hop when they were a glean in the LA music industry's eyes.

    Deep thoughts, as they say on SNL. LOL.
    Actually, that was the only word that caught my attention.

    What does gleam in the eye mean?

    If you say that something is only a gleam in someone's eye at present, you mean that it is only being planned or considered, and has not yet been properly begun.
    Every one /everyone knows it all; yet, no thing /nothing is truly known by any one /anyone. Similarly, the suckers think that they win, but, the house always wins, unless to hand out an even worse beating.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsa6ojQcYXQ

    Garnabby + OppsIdidItAgain + ThomasClines (or TomasHClines) + TheGrimReaper + LMR + OneHitWonder (or 1HitWonder, 1Hit1der) + Bill Yung ---> GOTTLOB1, or GOTTLOB = Praise to God!

    Survived by MHF.

    Blog at https://garnabby.blogspot.com/

  8. #728
    .
    Dengue fever is spiking greatly - it is caused by mosquitoes multiplying much faster in warmer wetter weather

    one in 800 people on the planet have it - Puerto Rico is in a state of crisis and new patients have overwhelmed other countries

    there is no cure for dengue fever

    there are now 10.2 million cases in the Americas - almost double the next highest year and at least tripling most other years - and the year is only half over

    the article claims it is caused by climate change - warmer and wetter weather

    I'll standby waiting for Mickey to tell everybody that it's all just some BS




    https://archive.ph/y5F83


    .
    Last edited by Half Smoke; 07-01-2024 at 05:13 AM.
    the foolish sayings of a rich man often pass for words of wisdom by the fools around him

  9. #729
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by Don Perignom View Post

    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    AMA may be liberal but can't really not be. They want to advance things from previous ways.
    If it's been used for decades, it's probably stupid and backward.


    LOL. God bless those who know better. There's a lot of that going around, especially among the young.

    I'm finally catching up with some of the psychological literature. There's a real problem with males ages 15-32/33 right now. They appear to be behaviorally limited, frightened to death, and socially/sexually retarded. It's a kind of serious behavioral retardation that synchs up with widespread internet use. I suspect it has to do with reliance on porn and conducting large chunks of social interaction anonymously. Plus the middle class has been thinned and that income bell curve flattened, so you have a lot of poor males who can't get laid regularly. Putting off marriage until their 30's. Just an entirely different animal, propped up by the illusion that mastering some transient tech gives them knowledge/skills/depth of insight that eludes older people.

    But they evade evaluation of any kind (intellectual/financial/sexual), which is why anonymity is so popular.

    My late wife, with doctorates in anthropology and demography, would have loved this stuff. She foresaw the rise of rap and hip hop when they were a glean in the LA music industry's eyes.

    Deep thoughts, as they say on SNL. LOL.
    I'm tellin ya this because it may not be very apparent to you but you come across as a very angry individual in this post. Those poor 15 to 32/33 year olds. Why, the precision alone!

    Redietz - you seem far happier when talking about dicks. Childhood experiences, dimension preferences, and just general size distribution. When typing about that you just seemed to be in your element. Your treatise on cocks is worthy of your blog. I'd suggest preserving that post outside VCT so that others can enjoy.

    This post tho? You just come across as weirdly angry. Was that your intention?

  10. #730
    Originally Posted by Don Perignom View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    It becomes a question of whether an industry can legally medically redefine a product based on its own immediate preferences, as opposed to a general, accepted definition of a product that's been used for decades.
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    AMA may be liberal but can't really not be. They want to advance things from previous ways.
    If it's been used for decades, it's probably stupid and backward.
    I'm not sure if you are ridiculing things that do change after having not changed? I'll take a medical establishment that updates itself as we learn going forward.

    100 years ago was 1925. There were not even TVs. Medical practices are far faaaaar from being that refined.

  11. #731
    Originally Posted by Half Smoke View Post
    .
    Dengue fever is spiking greatly - it is caused by mosquitoes multiplying much faster in warmer wetter weather

    one in 800 people on the planet have it - Puerto Rico is in a state of crisis and new patients have overwhelmed other countries

    there is no cure for dengue fever

    there are now 10.2 million cases in the Americas - almost double the next highest year and at least tripling most other years - and the year is only half over

    the article claims it is caused by climate change - warmer and wetter weather

    I'll standby waiting for Mickey to tell everybody that it's all just some BS




    https://archive.ph/y5F83


    .
    Simultaneous failing harvests across the globe. Some amongst nuclear armed countries. Stuff like this. Failing infrastructure that was never designed for the new weather patterns. Ecosystems not meant for their new climate. People's unwillingness to sacrifice. Indeed, many would rather mock those that do. Inflation across the board due to related issues. Gross migration across countries and away from coastal reasons.

    Tbh, people are pretty shit.

    It is all why I'm a doomer.

  12. #732
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    I'll take a medical establishment that updates itself as we learn going forward.
    If sanity prevailed, they would carefully consider why things were done the old way, before they force the new way. But they're far too arrogant for that.
    I don't need or really even want the $$$ (I have way, way more than enough and I don't hunger for material possessions)

  13. #733
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Tbh, people are pretty shit.
    Typical attitude of committed leftists.

    Anti-human religion.

    But I'm the one who's hateful and intolerant.
    I don't need or really even want the $$$ (I have way, way more than enough and I don't hunger for material possessions)

  14. #734
    Originally Posted by Half Smoke View Post
    .
    Dengue fever is spiking greatly - it is caused by mosquitoes multiplying much faster in warmer wetter weather

    one in 800 people on the planet have it - Puerto Rico is in a state of crisis and new patients have overwhelmed other countries

    there is no cure for dengue fever

    there are now 10.2 million cases in the Americas - almost double the next highest year and at least tripling most other years - and the year is only half over

    the article claims it is caused by climate change - warmer and wetter weather

    I'll standby waiting for Mickey to tell everybody that it's all just some BS




    https://archive.ph/y5F83


    .

    Yea it’s a total disaster here in Florida. SIX cases reported in 2024, that’s right SIX people were found with it. And it’s basically a light case of the flu. And it’s gone within a week for most with no medication needed. Florida uses multiple tools for mosquito mitigation annually. It’s not a concern for civilized countries.

    Of course it’s far worse in Africa, but what disease isn’t based on their personal hygiene and health care. Hell them fucking monkeys caused hundreds of billions in profits for drug companies and their shareholders.


    https://www.floridatoday.com/story/n...s/74202773007/

  15. #735
    You can't internalize all the world's problems without going nuts. It's better to trust that a grand intelligence within the universe will keep things in balance.

  16. #736
    Originally Posted by Don Perignom View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    I'll take a medical establishment that updates itself as we learn going forward.
    If sanity prevailed, they would carefully consider why things were done the old way, before they force the new way. But they're far too arrogant for that.
    Of course the AMA carefully considers all of it. Why wouldn't they?

    Is this some sort of trans-gender rant? You people are far more up on that stuff than I am, so I won't be defending any specific instances of your AMA issues.

    Who is "they"?

  17. #737
    Originally Posted by Don Perignom View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Tbh, people are pretty shit.
    Typical attitude of committed leftists.

    Anti-human religion.

    But I'm the one who's hateful and intolerant.
    I just don't like humans in general but you're not worth the effort to go into that. Who cares. You don't. You're just looking to beef while patting yourself on your own back that you're above doing as much. Clownish.

    Who cares? "religion"? WTF are you even going on about. I had no idea you were a nutterball.

    How does any of this lead to me being intolerant.

    Wrong is wrong. If that makes me intolerant then go buy some big boy pills and start your regimen.

  18. #738
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Who is "they"?
    Sorry, I was trying to be concise, but was instead unclear apparently.

    Original sentence:

    If sanity prevailed, they would carefully consider why things were done the old way, before they force the new way. But they're far too arrogant for that.

    Revised sentence for clarity:

    If sanity prevailed, the medical establishment would carefully consider why things were done the old way, before the medical establishment forces things to be done the new way. But the medical establishment is far too arrogant for that.

    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    I just don't like humans in general but you're not worth the effort to go into that. Who cares. You don't. You're just looking to beef while patting yourself on your own back that you're above doing as much. Clownish.
    Which human politician do you dislike the least?
    I don't need or really even want the $$$ (I have way, way more than enough and I don't hunger for material possessions)

  19. #739
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by Don Perignom View Post



    If it's been used for decades, it's probably stupid and backward.


    LOL. God bless those who know better. There's a lot of that going around, especially among the young.

    I'm finally catching up with some of the psychological literature. There's a real problem with males ages 15-32/33 right now. They appear to be behaviorally limited, frightened to death, and socially/sexually retarded. It's a kind of serious behavioral retardation that synchs up with widespread internet use. I suspect it has to do with reliance on porn and conducting large chunks of social interaction anonymously. Plus the middle class has been thinned and that income bell curve flattened, so you have a lot of poor males who can't get laid regularly. Putting off marriage until their 30's. Just an entirely different animal, propped up by the illusion that mastering some transient tech gives them knowledge/skills/depth of insight that eludes older people.

    But they evade evaluation of any kind (intellectual/financial/sexual), which is why anonymity is so popular.

    My late wife, with doctorates in anthropology and demography, would have loved this stuff. She foresaw the rise of rap and hip hop when they were a glean in the LA music industry's eyes.

    Deep thoughts, as they say on SNL. LOL.
    I'm tellin ya this because it may not be very apparent to you but you come across as a very angry individual in this post. Those poor 15 to 32/33 year olds. Why, the precision alone!

    Redietz - you seem far happier when talking about dicks. Childhood experiences, dimension preferences, and just general size distribution. When typing about that you just seemed to be in your element. Your treatise on cocks is worthy of your blog. I'd suggest preserving that post outside VCT so that others can enjoy.

    This post tho? You just come across as weirdly angry. Was that your intention?
    I like the post for one thing. Redietz acknowledges the left has diminished the middle class.
    Druff, let us know when you receive redietz’ credit score.

  20. #740
    Originally Posted by Half Smoke View Post
    .
    Dengue fever is spiking greatly - it is caused by mosquitoes multiplying much faster in warmer wetter weather

    one in 800 people on the planet have it - Puerto Rico is in a state of crisis and new patients have overwhelmed other countries

    there is no cure for dengue fever

    there are now 10.2 million cases in the Americas - almost double the next highest year and at least tripling most other years - and the year is only half over

    the article claims it is caused by climate change - warmer and wetter weather

    I'll standby waiting for Mickey to tell everybody that it's all just some BS




    https://archive.ph/y5F83


    .
    Quit misrepresenting what I say. You fuck faces need to clean that shit up. Lie about someone else. I have never denied climate change. I'm just not the fucktard fanatic about it that you are.
    Druff, let us know when you receive redietz’ credit score.

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