Originally Posted by redietz View Post
Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
Originally Posted by smurgerburger View Post

You would be wrong.
Ironically I have taken up cheating. I am trying to sneak chips on the table over the buyin cap. I think one dealer was suspicous. I kept greens in my pocket and would reload. Then after some $$ moved around and a new dealer I put a few more greens.The cap is $300 but everyone else is a scrub and doesn't ask for greens when it speeds up the game a lot. So the greens stick out but they fit in your pocket and are easy to add. The reds would blend in but you have to add half a stack at a time. Maybe get a table change and do it in route? I did it the last time so I'm working on my approach. I play it off dumb and they'll give me a warning. Not that they would care that much but i don't want to ever be caught if I wish to keep doing it.

Well, I may be wrong (cough, cough), but I did watch the series TILT in 2005, which (truth be told) was based on real people and real events. The Michael Madsen character, for example, was pretty assuredly "based on" Doyle Brunson, in case anyone is interested.

As far as poker cheating, I mean c'mon, you can riffle chips like Morse code if you practice a little. I don't even want to consider what I'd come up with to bolster a stable if stablemates were at the same table. With people having pieces of each other and side bets that dwarf the early payouts, you'd have to be a, pardon the Bugs Bunny




to think this stuff isn't ubiquitous. I've played in little local feeder tournaments to little WSOP events in Mississippi, and you had husband-and-wife collusion aplenty. I knew a couple who took cruises just to play poker with the rubes. So to think that actual poker players playing for big money, with serious side bets, don't exercise their God-given right to communicate under the radar, okay, you have much more faith in the common man than me. Maybe not as much experience. But much more faith.
BUT these people are so inept otherwise that they're still losing value to you. Thats the key part.

Yes, they probably lose less value to you but that doesn't mean they're even +EV to the tournament as a whole.

If the players are locals then people pick up on husband/wife interactions. There are a lot of eyes and a lot of IQ points at these tables.

I could write pages of cheat stories. Ones I've heard and ones I've been cheated. Some are even completely embarrassing for how naive I was at that moment.

People should always be looking for cheating. I've seen some crazy stuff. Coin-flip on river drawing in a blackchip (small blind is black chip .. ) game for getting a free-card. We couldn't figure it out had to be cheating. It is a fascinating world but if I talk too much about specifics it just opens me up to being doxed.

Also - you should learn to read. You're going from spouses cheating in $150 weeklies to "big money". Anyway, I don't care to get into all this because it is not an interest to me in poker but I'll give examples for consideration. You have $150 3 table tournaments with fairly bad players. It isn't big enough to have a "stable" but say 3 people are cheating what are the odds they're at the same table? If they're spending their time doing such things they're probably not developing much of a strategy. They could very well fuck themselves over and both lose big lol. Contrast this to WSOP main event where concern of collusion is laughable until it actually happens.

online it is more of a concern by far and I don't do tourneys but if you were to worry about collusion it'd be in those bellagio 10ks (or whereever in LV maybe Aria or Wynn) that happen often. It is not a concern of significance for the tournaments most people play.