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    Will be in Vegas in a few weeks with my teenage kids. We’ve seen P&T a few times so I’d like to find a good magic show, that is appropriate for teens. Prefer a skilled magician, not just flashing lights and a fog machine. Any recommendations?

    Also, is Blue Man Group worth it? Any other recommendations?

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    Try Copperfield... I heard he likes teens A LOT!

    Seriously though most of the posters on this forum don't go to the shows but hopefully someone will chime in with a valid opinion on your inquiry. Almost all the time I spend in Vegas is gambling.

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    For magic, I recommend the Mac King Comedy Magic Show at Harrah's. He is very talented, and his show is teen-friendly with lots of laughs and impressive tricks. Blue Man Group is also a great option, full of energy and music, definitely worth seeing.
    I've been to both, and my kids loved it. Vegas has a lot to offer, so you'll surely find something you all enjoy. Good luck and have fun!

    Greetings, Andrew :-)

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    The only 2 shows that stick out for me are KA and blue man. Blue man has that crowd participation. KA has the crazy elaborate set.

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    I always liked the Amazing Johnathan saw him more times than anyone probably should, but he's dead since 2022 (not just dark, but dead).



    Another great one from him, "sometimes magic sounds like tape." (at 6:45)



    Johnathan was a severe drug addict who died from a congenital heart defect condition (something like UNKewlJ), and believed that the methamphetamine kept him alive.
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    I can tell you stories about Johnathon. I knew him personally, not well though, through my late partner. To be honest, Johnathon always creeped me out the times I would meet and talk to him. If you attended one of his Halloween parties, Dark doesn't begin to describe him.

    We met Johnathon at Krave, a gay club at the corner of the Planet Hollywood complex that we frequented once a week or so back about 10-12 years ago. Johnathon wasn't gay or anything, that I know of, but he performed at that time at a theater right next door to Krave and would stop in for a drink after his show. He didn't drink alcohol at least at that time. So while I was on the dance floor dancing, Johnathon and my late partner, who were about the same age, would sit and talk. He seemed very interested in our relationship, and the 20 year difference in age. I later learned that Johnathon had a close personal relationship with Joel Ozborn, a comedian 20 years younger than him. I am not saying it was sexual as both presented as straight, but there was something going on there. It had a vibe to it.

    Anyway, we were invited to The Amazing Underground, which was a warehouse Johnathon owned or rented, just off Sunset road, just east of the airport. He housed his classic car collection there, consisting of 20 or so vehicles from the 50's and 60's and had turned the warehouse into a replica drive-in movie theater, where he would screen actual movies. Friends and guests would sit in the cars to watch the movies. He had concession stands and the whole works.

    Later we attended a Halloween party at the same location. The cars had been removed, and the warehouse transformed into a very dark haunted house. There were body bags and coffins and people jumping out from the dark at you all night long at every turn. Lots of blood and gore and body parts and girls with live snakes. He really went all out. We were invited to a second Halloween party, but I didn't want to go. It was too dark for me and many people were just too tweaked out for my liking.

    And then we sort of lost touch with Johnathon. His show changed location and Krave later closed. He next I heard he announced his heart medical condition and announced he had only a year to live, but I think lived another 6 or 7. My partner passed away during that time, and I never saw Johnathon again.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

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    More lies from the UNKewlJ one. Johnathan never mentioned knowing this loser low life male prostitute, and my connection to Johnathan was much closer than the lies you just made up.

    But it does make sense that when someone mentions something, that UNKewlJ would step in to claim some sort of affiliation.

    Originally Posted by Gottlob1 View Post
    The thing about KJ - if you actually read what he writes - is that he constantly echoes the words/phrases and themes of the immediately previous replies by others. As I noted, a while back, he's extremely suggestible. Not someone in control of even his own life. People don't always end up in places like Vegas by their own conscious volition. My guess would be some nut-job living from one day to the next, now on the internet. Certainly of negligible intelligence, etc.
    Now, if any of what UNKewlJ mentions above IS true, then nailing exactly who and what he is will be pretty simple, as I am in touch with his ex, so next time I get a chance I will show this post to her and see what she knows.

    Now time for the UNKewl shuffle...the one where he walks back whatever he just said.

    MaxPen on the UNKewl one: Compulsive liar is a fair assessment of what he is. If people go back and look at your last few stories they will see a trend in you always changing the story after you get caught lying.
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    Not walking anything back, but Johnathan wasn't married when we knew him. He did have a girlfriend, who I never met and later heard he married. By all means contact her.

    Now anyone that was hoping to see a "shuffle", I refer you to Mdawgs past, where after 7 months of reporting daily wins of over a million dollars, he posted one line....." Wizard and I went over my records and I am about even". That my friend is a shuffle.


    I have news for you poodle boy, I have mentioned that we knew Johnathon, my partner better than me, and our visit to The Amazing Underground before, and I believe on this very forum. And I am not name dropping, as like I said, I didn't care all that much for the dude. I found him a bit creepy.
    Last edited by kewlJ; 08-06-2024 at 08:45 AM.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

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    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I didn't care all that much for the dude. I found him a bit creepy.
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    Johnathan never mentioned knowing this loser low life male prostitute, and my connection to Johnathan was much closer than the lies you just made up.
    Uh-huh ... sure thing ... you bet ... Yeah, you knew this guy so well that his failure to ever mention him knowing KJ somehow proves he never knew him?

    Really, counselor?

    C'mon, hound: that proves nothing, and you know it.

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    What, Me Worry?

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    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I didn't care all that much for the dude. I found him a bit creepy.
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    Johnathan never mentioned knowing this loser low life male prostitute, and my connection to Johnathan was much closer than the lies you just made up.
    Uh-huh ... sure thing ... you bet ... Yeah, you knew this guy so well that his failure to ever mention him knowing KJ somehow proves he never knew him?

    Really, counselor?

    C'mon, hound: that proves nothing, and you know it.

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    V you never seem to get it. Whenever kew sleazes into a discussion trying to make it all about him due to his neurotic craving for attention, there is absolutely nothing to be believed--as reiterated numerous times by just about every active member here.

    You're only taking the contrerian position because of your dislike of mdawg and your jealousy over his life and wealth. Of course, as has been said before, whenever anyone of substance describes where they're traveling that's not to some type of casino, the go-nowhere/do-nothings on this low-level forum brings those type of inconsequential feelings to all the "little people" around here.

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    Robert, I've no interest in nor jealousy of his, your, or anyone's "wealth."

    Fact is I am "quite comfortable" myself, having worked hard, invested, and inherited.

    What, me worry?
    What, Me Worry?

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    V, the fact is, you're an addict alcoholic, and that explains most of the way that you act. Not all, most. And Denial is not a river in Egypt!

    You do realize that the rate of alcoholism is quite high among us lawyers no? And the fact that you substituted one substance for another doesn't cure you of alcoholism...or addiction.

    Just at least Know Thyself and don't try to deny it.
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    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I didn't care all that much for the dude. I found him a bit creepy.
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    Johnathan never mentioned knowing this loser low life male prostitute, and my connection to Johnathan was much closer than the lies you just made up.
    Uh-huh ... sure thing ... you bet ... Yeah, you knew this guy so well that his failure to ever mention him knowing KJ somehow proves he never knew him?

    Really, counselor?

    C'mon, hound: that proves nothing, and you know it.

    .
    The fact is, Johnathan does not know UNKewlJ. And UNKewlJ has not mentioned knowing him before, so why would I have mentioned someone who does not know UNKewlJ before?

    And given that UNKewlJ has not mentioned Johnathan before, why would I have brought him up in the context of the perennially UNKewl one anyway?

    The fact is, No One knows UNKewlJ other than the couple of APs who have run into him and observed him playing extremely low stakes blackjack as cover for sugar daddy activities. Riddle me that one, V, how someone could have been doing something or other in or at casinos for two decades and yet no one in town has seen or heard of him other than as a male prostitute?
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    Originally Posted by Knucklehead View Post
    Will be in Vegas in a few weeks with my teenage kids. We’ve seen P&T a few times so I’d like to find a good magic show, that is appropriate for teens. Prefer a skilled magician, not just flashing lights and a fog machine. Any recommendations?

    Also, is Blue Man Group worth it? Any other recommendations?
    I have not been to Paradox Experience, but if your kids like magic it might be up their alley

    https://lasvegas.paradoxexperience.com/

    Maybe someone can chime in if they know it's worth it, or if it's kind of lame. I think it only opened very recently.

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    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    And UNKewlJ has not mentioned knowing him before, so why would I have mentioned someone who does not know UNKewlJ before?

    And given that UNKewlJ has not mentioned Johnathan before, why would I have brought him up in the context of the perennially UNKewl one anyway?

    I posted the following several years ago, so Dawgs assertion that I never posted knowing Johnathan is more Dawg bullshit. (or I guess Dogshit)

    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post

    I knew Jonathan a little bit back in 2011-2012. It was really my partner who became casual friends with him at the time. I will get into that in a moment. At that time Jonathon had been diagnosed with a major heart condition but was still performing. I don't know, but I suspect that because he has had this heart condition for 15 years now, which certainly would have placed him in high risk category, he got vaccines and boosters. Just a guess.

    So we met Jonathon at a gay club on the corner of LVB and Harmon, attached to Planet Hollywood Casino. Jonathon was not gay that I know of (married to a woman) but at the time was performing at Planet Hollywood nightly and he would stop by the club after his show for a drink or two (I believe non-alcoholic). That is where my partner met him (I was usually on the floor dancing). They were almost the same age and had a lot in common and would talk for an hour or so many nights.

    We were invited to attended a screening at Jonathon's, "drive in movie theater", which was a warehouse converted to resemble an old drive in movie theater. Jonathon collected old cars from the 70's and had maybe 20 at the "drive-in" that guests would occupy to watch the movie. There were concession stands and the ceiling was painted with stars. It was pretty cool.

    We also attended one of his Halloween parties at his home that he was known for. He went all out. He took Halloween very seriously. It was like a really good haunted house that evolved into a party.

    My partner and Jonathon grew apart after that as we moved from the condo we were living at a block from the strip and Jonathon's show at Planet Hollywood closed. Jonathon's show moved to one of the casinos downtown for a period and then I heard stopped performing altogether due to his declining health. Rest in peace Jonathon
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

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    That, is simply proof that people stopped reading your
    Originally Posted by MDawg
    SChiZoPHreNiC UNKewl PYsCHo babble
    some time ago.

    I skimmed what you wrote today, be thankful that I spent any time at all looking at your nonsense.
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    Just proof what a small person Mdawg is, that he can't even admit when proven wrong. We have seen this a number of times now though.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

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    KJ was Jonathan the inspiration for your own heart defect?

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    GOOD POINT.
    I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.

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    Originally Posted by smurgerburger View Post
    KJ was Jonathan the inspiration for your own heart defect?
    I don't have a heart defect. But my first heart valve replacement due to a virus that damaged the value occurred in 2011, several years before we met Johnathan and even more years before I learned he had a heart issue which I believe, not sure, but believe may have been from birth, but worsened over time.

    BUT, damn good try (attempted troll) on your part, smurgerburger. I have come to expect nothing less from you.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

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