Attention Dan Druff

[redietz]

The problem with masking at this stage is that the viral loads have increased so much that filtering 90% of the particles is of limited value unless you are only very briefly in hailing distance of infected people. In other words, one could do the viral load approximate math for the initial two or three Covid incarnations and understand that if you wore a mask, it might take 40 minutes or more of exposure to someone for much to get through your mask. Unfortunately, the viral loads increased so much with successive variants that you wound up getting exposed in four or five minutes to what used to take an hour. So masks are currently of limited but non-zero utility in both keeping you safe and preventing others from being infected by you. If your exposure might be walking through an airport for 30 minutes and you want to wear a mask, probably of some value. If you are on a plane for two hours in close proximity to the infected, that mask probably isn't going to do you much good. Hanging in a casino or anywhere indoors for a full day, probably not going to help much. Better than nothing, one presumes, but then you have people who are wearing masks assuming more exposure time because they are wearing masks, and that mucks up any small advantage.

And I have to say this -- if you wanted an environment where you had the best shot of getting infected, something like the WSOP is pretty much ideal. Don't be surprised, in other words, that you got the clap after spending the last 200 nights in various brothels.

[Dan Druff]

I don't want to believe it, but I do. It's obvious. I got a cough and throat congestion which came on from COVID caught on July 5 (symptoms showed July 7), and they haven't gone away.

What else is it? A shocking coincidence?

why not get a free Covid test at a pharmacy near you just to be sure_____?

if it's something else there may be a treatment plan

from the link:

"Symptoms of influenza (flu), respiratory syncytial (sin-SISH-uhl) virus (RSV), and COVID-19 are similar and may include fever, cough, and shortness of breath. Because the symptoms are similar, it can be difficult to distinguish between illnesses caused by respiratory viruses."


https://www.nfid.org/resource/how-to...e-common-cold/


hope you feel better soon

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I took a COVID test and it was positive. I didn't take one recently, because it's not useful. I know I had COVID, so whether it's showing up on a test (which it can sometimes for up to 2 months) is not useful information.

[Dan Druff]

I don't really see much point in continuing to test for Covid. It has mutated into what usually becomes a very, very nasty sinus infection for most people. Coronaviruses have been around forever, so this stuff is not going anywhere. You're probably going to get Covid once or twice every year, no big deal most of the time, it's not the deadly bogeyman it was in 2020.

It is not nearly as deadly as it was in 2020-2021. That's why I no longer worry about death or severe illness when I get it, whereas the 2020-21 versions killed some middle aged people, and in fact I had 5 acquaintances from 44-55 who died of it in 2020.

However, it's not like a cold or a flu quite yet, in that it still causes weird problems in some people which are not associated with colds or flus. In my case, I have a cough, throat clogs, and breathing issues I didn't have before, and it is not improving at all. While I've had postviral coughs in the past from colds, it has never been like this.

Others have fatigue (my son had this for 6 months), brain fog, or other issues which just drag on for a very long time.

In short, most people get over COVID with no medium or long term issues (like I did in 2022), but some are stuck with problems for a long time. I am hoping mine will clear. It's been 6 weeks already.

[jdog]

The problem with masking at this stage is that the viral loads have increased so much that filtering 90% of the particles is of limited value

red, I've agreed with most of what you said regarding Covid but there's no way a mask filters 90% of virus particles, and even if it did then not for long. Anyone who thinks a mask really helps, try this:

1) Borrow a powerful vape that cranks out a lot of vapor and take a hit.
2) Gently exhale the vapor through your nose while wearing a common disposable mask and watch what happens in a mirror.
3) Remove the mask and now look at the idiot in the mirror who thought masks do anything lol.

"The SARS-CoV-2 virus is only about 100 nanometers in diameter. The holes in your standard cloth or surgical mask are much larger than the size of a coronavirus." -CDC

[redietz]

The problem with masking at this stage is that the viral loads have increased so much that filtering 90% of the particles is of limited value

red, I've agreed with most of what you said regarding Covid but there's no way a mask filters 90% of virus particles, and even if it did then not for long. Anyone who thinks a mask really helps, try this:

1) Borrow a powerful vape that cranks out a lot of vapor and take a hit.
2) Gently exhale the vapor through your nose while wearing a common disposable mask and watch what happens in a mirror.
3) Remove the mask and now look at the idiot in the mirror who thought masks do anything lol.

"The SARS-CoV-2 virus is only about 100 nanometers in diameter. The holes in your standard cloth or surgical mask are much larger than the size of a coronavirus." -CDC

I'm talking about the N-95's. I'm assuming that's what everyone is wearing. Even if you're blocking 90% of the particles, however, it's like Russian Roulette against a machine gun. Eventually you get enough of a dosage that you'll get sick. And that "eventually" can be pretty short.

The viral load increases are immense from initial variant to today's variants, which is what you would expect. Less lethality but massive increase in conductivity, so to speak. That is also what one would expect.

[MDawg]

You can’t know to isolate unless you know that you have it.

Ah yes, the narrative again... 6ft and masks The idea that you can stop from exposing others to an extremely tiny aerosolized virus is a bit silly. Let's break it down then.

First of all if you have enough viral load that it is detectable on that test you have already spread it. But that's ok, it's probably gonna be around everywhere you go anyway... remember Covid is now very contagious. But I'll indulge you with the concept that if you take a few precautions maybe you can reduce the amount of virus spread to others in your household. Maybe enough to where they won't get symptoms... maybe. The problem is by the time you're getting any real symptoms your viral load is already dropping, so the damage has already been done. Keep in mind coronaviruses mutate very quickly and you are constantly being exposed to different variants, most of which your immune system will handle just fine.

Are you saying that just because a person has spread it unknowingly he might and well continue to do so knowingly? So I test positive in Vegas and I continue to hit the tables, meet our friends, go to restaurants, invite people over to our house or hotel room, throw dinner parties, and make sure we give it to them too?

The rest of what you are talking about is all about YOU the person who has Covid, how bad it is or is not, for the person who already has it. The point in knowing is to stay home, and away from everyone - i.e., the point being OTHERS.

It's not all about you when it comes to Covid. (I clipped the rest of your post, which was more about why Covid shouldn't matter, but again, you don't have the right to make the decision for others. Once you find out you have it, you should isolate (who said anything about 6' and masks...I said isolate, as in quarantine) for a period of time at least. Even just 5 days.)

If everyone thinks the way you seem to be thinking - I don't care if I have it, and even if I do, I'm going out there and making sure I expose as many as possible! - no wonder Covid cases are back on the rise.

Or did you not make yourself clear, and just ignoring Covid and getting out there knowing you have it and exposing as many as possible to it, is not what you're advocating?

At the gym, if someone has even a common cold, he is considered a selfish bastard if he works out anyway, and hits the sauna or steam room with the rest of us.

[MHF]

Achieving immortality was never about one long session.

Well said. Once in a while you spit out something I appreciate.

Yes, but the above holds only if you come back as yourself, and, so, by thus recalling the theory of everything, each time.


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[jdog]

At the gym, if someone has even a common cold, he is considered a selfish bastard if he works out anyway, and hits the sauna or steam room with the rest of us.

Don't know what to tell you man. You just don't get it and I did say to take measures anytime you're sick?? But your body is a 24/7 breeding ground for all kinds of bacteria and viruses... everyone is. To not accept this as fact seems futile to me. Seems like you bought the narrative hook, line and sinker. But it was all about selling fear to push pharmaceuticals. They saw an opportunity and seized it... it's actually fairly impressive in the scope of the manipulation, of course with the exception of it being so unethical and killing people.

Bottom line is Covid will still be a big deal if you make it one. To me it's just another thing that goes around.

[MDawg]

Doesn't matter what it is, if you're aware that you're sick with something (airborne) contagious, stay home. That's just common decency.

[accountinquestion]

Yea, first time I had covid was in LV. Some friend had comps to burn from vulturing and it was during WSOP. He invited some busted ass poker player who kept trying to convince us he wasn't broke. Anyway, I could tell he was sick... he made up excuses. Didn't want to go stay at the Hooters. Then later I realize he is sitting facing away from everyone. He knew he was sick and sure enough I get it.

To this day I wonder how virus load impacts any of this. It is sorta a face with your body's defenses. Various ways it could work but maybe I would never have even had symptoms if the dipshit hadn't been sitting across from me during eating.

[Dan Druff]

I had no option to "stay home", as my COVID showed up on Day 2 of the WSOP Main Event.

First, I didn't know it was COVID. Thought it was a cold at the time.

Second, I had already entered for $10k, so obviously I wasn't going to abandon my stack at that point. I was completely healthy on Day 1, and in fact that's where I believe I caught the COVID. (Day 2 took place two days after Day 1.)

[Rob.Singer]

Yea, first time I had covid was in LV. Some friend had comps to burn from vulturing and it was during WSOP. He invited some busted ass poker player who kept trying to convince us he wasn't broke. Anyway, I could tell he was sick... he made up excuses. Didn't want to go stay at the Hooters. Then later I realize he is sitting facing away from everyone. He knew he was sick and sure enough I get it.

To this day I wonder how virus load impacts any of this. It is sorta a face with your body's defenses. Various ways it could work but maybe I would never have even had symptoms if the dipshit hadn't been sitting across from me during eating.

You had covid before the pandemic period?

[jdog]

Doesn't matter what it is, if you're aware that you're sick with something (airborne) contagious, stay home. That's just common decency.

Already agreed with you twice on this.

First, I didn't know it was COVID. Thought it was a cold at the time.

But there's the problem. It seems to come on at first as a mild sore throat for me.

by the time you're getting any real symptoms your viral load is already dropping, so the damage has already been done.

And there's another problem. People who are very sick with Covid in the hospital often have little to no viral load.

[jdog]

Have to agree with Singer on his perspective of keeping your immune system in top shape. Sure doesn't hurt to sanitize things you know a lot of people are touching and, of course your hands occasionally. Exercise (particularly cardio), adequate sleep and gut health all aid tremendously in staying healthy and free of illness. Probably 90% of all times I've ever been sick there is usually a precipitating factor that has diminished my immune system. It could be something as simple as forgetting to take a jacket when you really needed one all day.

[accountinquestion]

Yea, first time I had covid was in LV. Some friend had comps to burn from vulturing and it was during WSOP. He invited some busted ass poker player who kept trying to convince us he wasn't broke. Anyway, I could tell he was sick... he made up excuses. Didn't want to go stay at the Hooters. Then later I realize he is sitting facing away from everyone. He knew he was sick and sure enough I get it.

To this day I wonder how virus load impacts any of this. It is sorta a face with your body's defenses. Various ways it could work but maybe I would never have even had symptoms if the dipshit hadn't been sitting across from me during eating.

You had covid before the pandemic period?

Uhh, no.

Dumbass, I can't even begin to grasp how you came to think I even implied this.

Edit - lol I see. Hooters. No it has been renames to Oyo. I knew that but didn't care to think about the name and hooters is more lol. Pathetic, Singer. Scraping the bottom out of the bucket. Such a loser.