accusations of Lying at VCT

[Dan Druff]

When people have asked me why I allow Rob Singer here, my answer is simple: He's harmless.

You seem to descend into a much darker place when you battle with people on these forums.

I descend into a dark place? You had seedvalue show up and accuse me of being a male prostitute and preying on older men. And that has been repeated by Mdawg and others a 1000 times. Doesn't get much darker than that.

You have Singer accuse me of sexual relations with family members and tell nasty lies about my partners passing, just as he did with spouses of other members before me. Doesn't get much darker and sicker than that.

This is just forum nonsense. Note that these people are accusing "kewlJ" of these things -- not your real identity. So who cares? You don't reveal who you are, and nobody in your real life will ever see these allegations. It won't affect you at all.

I have had a member from this forum show up at my home, trying to get past security for God knows what he planned.

I have had another member of this site announce that he was going to hire someone to find me (announcement did come on another forum) and then a short time later proceeded to dox me, announcing where I live and describing my condominium right down to bathrooms and square feet. And then he has repeated that information hundreds of time. A piece of that information ended up in a database entry of me.

Is there any proof this happened? Please forgive me if I am skeptical regarding your unverified claims.

You had another guy, Redietz recently state he would find me or hunt me down or some such wording.

So yeah, I get a little angry at this shit. And you say nothing about it.

I am a guy who operates a forum which has no advertising and runs at a loss. I am basically continuing a forum started in 2010 by a guy who was sick of it by 2016, and has since passed away. I am not interested in babysitting other adults who are bickering online. I only get involved when it gets extreme, or when the bickering ruins otherwise good threads.

I don't know what this lying "alot" on forums that you have repeated now is about. I have had to lie a few times and each time has been to protect myself from information getting out that I didn't want. And each time I have "owned" up to it.

And the reason, I don't just not say anything to begin with rather than end up lying to protect myself is because circumstances change. For example take the backroom incident, last year. I wanted to share that incident as a warning that casinos, at least that one, seemed to be going back in direction to a time 15 years ago of back-roomings incidents. (they have since been involved with another incident). But I didn't want my name and identity getting out.

So things changed when a news station contacted me about the story, presumably getting my info from the casino in question. That forced me to lie and try to deflect away from the information that came out. Yes, had I known information, including my name and identity would come out, I would have never said anything. But I didn't know that. So sometimes it isn't as simple as not saying anything to begin with. Circumstances change, you do what you need to do to protect yourself.

You were lying about this from the start, and only admitted to these lies when other forum members did a little research and poked holes in your story. And these lies were pointless. As I said, it's not like you just changed meaningless details such as dates and times. You fabricated major parts of the story. You also vigorously fought with people who questioned it, only to later admit you lied about some parts (again, only when people proved with hard data that you weren't being truthful).

Whole thing was a gigantic shitshow.

But, not going to rehash this with you. If you don't want me here and apparently you don't, having now adopted Mdawgs talking points, I won't post here. That simple.

I am not forcing you to be here. If you want to leave, then go. I've said this to you and anyone else who has bitched about this forum.

I am not adopting anyone's talking points. I have seen with my own eyes all of the arguments you get in here, and many of them revolve around you telling lies.

Eventually it becomes like the Boy Who Cried Wolf. Even when you're telling the truth, people don't trust you.

You're not the only one in this spot. Nobody believes Rob Singer's stories, either. But again, Singer is less controversial because most people understand this whole thing is entertainment to him. He likes trolling forums with outrageous stories and enjoys when people get agitated when trying to disprove them. Even when he acts like he's bothered by being questioned, you can read between the lines and be able to tell that he thinks the whole thing is funny.

When you lie, I get more of the "How dare these assholes not believe me?" vibe. That's why people get angry. You can keep refusing to acknowledge this, but it doesn't change the truth as to why you get into so many battles here.