VINDICATION for KJ

[smurgerburger]

Do I really have to dig up where you said it was illegal?

Can't swear I didn't say something like that. I would have to see the context. But it is not illegal. How can it be? Unless the player is colluding with the dealer. That would be another story. Maybe cheating. You are getting info that you aren't supposed to have. But definitely not illegal. there is a difference.

I think I may have said "gray area", but that is not gray area of being illegal. It is gray are of my comfort level with the play. And why would I have such a strong opinion, if I hadn't done some of it?

Are you sure you are not confusing comments I made about the double up bug? I think that was illegal.

I can't find the exchange I have in mind. It may have been about it being "cheating" or a "gray area".

[kewlJ]

This UNKewl post alone from 9/23/2022, contradicts directly HunterHill's claim that he saw UNKewlJ hole carding "working with a well known hole card team" before he even arrived in Vegas.

I even showed him one of our flashing dealers which we still destroy to this day!

Since, YOU brought up hole carding and flashing dealers, and playing against the same flashing dealers over and over. I have a question for you JBJB.

My experience with HCing is very limited. I did it one summer 2-3 years after I moved to Vegas. Even set my alarm for 3am so I could play one guys 4am-noon shift. Eventually decided I didn't care for that part of it. So anyway, I feel like certain plays are really going to make you stand out.

Besides the contradiction in the timeline, "working with a well known hole card team" sounds like it would have warranted something other than a disclaimer about having "very limited experience" with it, especially from someone with such a big mouth.

Mdawg, you are very clueless about advantage players. We share what we want to share. Some share nothing. Some share things and change timelines and details to protect themselves.

There are things, (a lot) that I haven't shared. Haven't said a word about. There are things I might misdirect away from information I don't want shared. And there are times I say too much and backtrack and even lie a bit to protect myself.

But carry on with your trolling, fool.

[MisterV]

H.Hill already pulled the devious asshole move of disclosing the contents of a PM I sent him, without having the guts to state right out that MDawg is the one who PM'ed me. Maybe next thing you know he's going to try to clean that up, in Chapter 3 of this drama.

What is this 'drama" of which you speak?

Oh, you mean your long-running, obsessive / compulsive campaign to discredit KJ?

Why would you PM Hunterhill in the first place?

LOL...he posted his OP and within 25 minutes you PMed him: funny stuff!

You are determined if nothing else, and with you...yeah, there's nothing else.

[kewlJ]

Now what is this about hole carding? I thought casinos only punched a hole in the deck of cards and sold them after they were done using the cards. Why would they play with a hole in the cards?

That sounds illegal. Or maybe just a gray area. :

[MDawg]

This UNKewl post alone from 9/23/2022, contradicts directly HunterHill's claim that he saw UNKewlJ hole carding "working with a well known hole card team" before he even arrived in Vegas.

Mdawg, you are very clueless about advantage players. We share what we want to share. Some share nothing. Some share things and change timelines and details to protect themselves.

Translation: I lie a lot, got caught in yet another contradiction, and can't come up with any reason why I would have lied in just casual conversation about something that doesn't even matter, so this new lie will have to do until I can come up with something better.

What’s crazy about all this is that any normal person would realize that his ever changing story and desperate attempts to put out fires is just confirming that his story is false, and making him look even worse, but a sociopathic liar can’t help himself, and keeps lying just to cover up other lies.

You know, if the gal had even half a brain, she would have simply lied with a simple "maybe HunterHill was mistaken about the timeline," but instead, no, she has to come up with another nonsensical lie in league with the stupid one about "I made up the lawsuit to protect myself."

Huh??

[MDawg]

V, if you still think that any of this leads to anywhere other than the usual...UNKewlJ caught in yet another lie! you're definitely shoulder to shoulder with the gay boy for no reason other than the obvious.

[accountinquestion]

I'd bet $$ hunterHill has a trollish nature to him. Excellent pot-stirrer.

Even if HH saw kewl - how did he even know it was kewl? How would this have worked?

Nevermind. I see he met kewl on a team so presumably they were on the same team.

[kewlJ]

V, if you still think that any of this leads to anywhere other than the usual...UNKewlJ caught in yet another lie! you're definitely shoulder to shoulder with the gay boy for no reason other than the obvious.

What lie did I get caught in?

I mean in the real world NOT Mdawgs alternative world of delusion.

[accountinquestion]

Kewl enjoy the bone you were thrown.

[MisterV]

V, if you still think that any of this leads to anywhere other than the usual...

Actually, I was hoping that this seemingly irrefutable proof would act as an eipiphany for you and induce you to admit you were wrong, apologize, and seek peace.

[MDawg]

He doesn't even know how to take advantage of that freebie bone.

Straight out the gate he's coming with the "I lied to protect myself" when confronted with the glaring contradiction both in timeline and deeds with what HunterHill claimed and what UNKewlJ himself claimed he has done. No wonder he didn't want to confirm that H.Hill even had the right guy.

And you're right AccountInQuestion, that was what I asked HunterHill in the PM I sent him, how do you know it was even KewlJ?



So what did he look like if it really was Kewlj.

And how did you know it was he did he tell you “I’m Kewlj” lol.

Because Kewlj himself denies ever having worked with any teams ever.

[MDawg]

"Because Kewlj himself denies ever having worked with any teams ever."

"To be fair" (as Nathan and AxelWolf would say):

I have a friend who is a top AP in this town that is well known. Author of a top AP book, years ago. He has been to my home a number of times now and I have worked with him and his team a number of times.

versus

I was recruited for teams at least twice. Another top, long running team claims they were recruiting me that I was not aware of. I turned down all offers.

and OF COURSE, today's latest gobbledegook:

Anything I may have done as a team or in conjunction with other AP's, I don't share because it involves other players. I don't feel it is my right to share that.

Maybe some day.

[kewlJ]

V, if you still think that any of this leads to anywhere other than the usual...

Actually, I was hoping that this seemingly irrefutable proof would act as an eipiphany for you and induce you to admit you were wrong, apologize, and seek peace.

Never going to happen. He will never admit he is wrong or a losing player who is comped accordingly or even well. Even though he is fooling no one, for quite a while now, he will never stop. Even if Wizard were to decide it was time for him to step forward and say what he thinks, Mdawg would just turn on him. he will never give up the charade.

[kewlJ]

"Because Kewlj himself denies ever having worked with any teams ever."

"To be fair" (as Nathan and AxelWolf would say):


versus


and OF COURSE, today's latest gobbledegook:

Anything I may have done as a team or in conjunction with other AP's, I don't share because it involves other players. I don't feel it is my right to share that.

Maybe some day.

I love that Mdawg just doesn't get it.

Now who is this Hunter Hill? related to Hank Hill?

[MDawg]

I see he met kewl on a team so presumably they were on the same team.

No, H.Hill's post claimed that he met UNKewlJ while UNKewlJ was working with a well known hole carding team before UNKewlJ ever came to Vegas.

Of course all that contradicts UNKewlJ's claim made here a couple years ago that he never hole carded until a few years after he came to Vegas, and even then just for a summer, "very limited" experience.

UNKewlJ as usual, you should have just kept your mouth shut. We would have thought you were a horse, and let you through.

[MDawg]

If you want to skip all the prior posts and get to what remains as valid as ever:

You can't get to the truth with a fraud.

[Keystone]

I see he met kewl on a team so presumably they were on the same team.

No, H.Hill's post claimed that he met UNKewlJ while UNKewlJ was working with a well known hole carding team before UNKewlJ ever came to Vegas.

Of course all that contradicts UNKewlJ's claim made here a couple years ago that he never hole carded until a few years after he came to Vegas, and even then just for a summer, "very limited" experience.

UNKewlJ as usual, you should have just kept your mouth shut. We would have thought you were a horse, and let you through.

I see you`re not going to refute my other post asking if you wanted to blow KJ....noted, and entered for the record

[kewlJ]

While I am not thrilled that this came out, it has been 15+ years, so probably no harm can come from it.

AND, it has been a hoot, watching Mdawg lose his mind....AGAIN!! I feel like I owe somebody (maybe Hank Hill) some money for this amusement.

[MisterV]

H.Hill's post claimed that he met UNKewlJ while UNKewlJ was working with a well known hole carding team before UNKewlJ ever came to Vegas.

Does the term "working with" mean the same as "working for?"

Could be KJ's association with HH's team with short-lived and casual, or perhaps he focused on counting while they focused on hole carding?

Whatever, you didn't provide a "Gotcha!"

[MDawg]

All that came out was that you got caught in more lies. And that HunterHill was just fucking with all of us (including with UNKewlJ himself).