VINDICATION for KJ

[terapinedtheskeptic]

I see DarkOz disputing Hunterhill suspension
Kudos to Darkoz bringing some honesty into the suspension discussion thread.

Here is what he wrote
"I get the PM suspension although I also don't agree with it.

But certainly seeking information on former members is worse?

Let's face it, the whole reason it was asked via PM was because it's creepy stalkerish.

The Wizard has been to my actual home once. I would consider it weird and creepy if someone started enquiring of the Wizard where I lived.

The PM system is supposed to be for secretive POSITIVE discussions. Like, hey, I need help on a sensitive Advantage play, would you like to join me? Etc

It's not for clandestine enquiries into other people's whereabouts."

[redietz]

I see DarkOz disputing Hunterhill suspension
Kudos to Darkoz bringing some honesty into the suspension discussion thread.

Here is what he wrote
"I get the PM suspension although I also don't agree with it.

But certainly seeking information on former members is worse?

Let's face it, the whole reason it was asked via PM was because it's creepy stalkerish.

The Wizard has been to my actual home once. I would consider it weird and creepy if someone started enquiring of the Wizard where I lived.

The PM system is supposed to be for secretive POSITIVE discussions. Like, hey, I need help on a sensitive Advantage play, would you like to join me? Etc

It's not for clandestine enquiries into other people's whereabouts."

Terapined, in general I agree with your perspectives, but this one is Pollyanna nonsense. Like (A) is for folks of good heart and (B) is a terrible thing. LOL.

Where'd you get these ideas? Is there some Bible for Alleged APs making the rounds?

[AxelWolf]

I can't confirm anything about KJ 100%.
I think it's pretty obvious he knows enough about card counting whereas I believe he's a card counter. I haven't any idea what limits he plays or if he 100% supports himself solely on that, but to be honest I don't really care.
There have been some things that he said that make me take great pause and I just find them hard to believe.

This is pretty much my opinion about kewlJ.

Card counting is actually the easiest form of +EV gambling to learn and get fairly good at quickly. Something like poker takes a lot of experience and hours at the table. Machine APing requires a lot of experience, connections, and trial-and-error, as well as a lot of time/travel in some cases.

In 2000, I developed an interest in learning how to count cards. As embarrassing as it is to admit, I was a ploppy -EV gambler up until then, despite being old enough to gamble since the early '90s. (In my defense, I only played low limits, and only gambled once every few months, so I didn't lose much.)

Anyway, I read a text file on the internet about how to card count, spent a short time running hands through a free simulator, and voila, I was a +EV BJ player. Was way harder and more time consuming to get good at poker, which I attempted the following year.

My point is that if kewlJ wanted to learn how to become a profitable BJ player, it wouldn't have been hard for him to learn. So anyone believing he's a BJ ploppy spinning a phony tale about being a counter is just speaking from a place of hatred.

At the same time, kewlJ has also been caught in a lot of lies over time, both on this forum and elsewhere. Therefore, it is unclear if he really makes much (or anything) playing blackjack these days, especially given the increasingly difficult environment to count cards and get away with it. I don't even bother anymore, except at casinos where I don't care about getting banned.

kewlJ is basically the Boy Who Cried Wolf of these AP forums. He has lied so many times that it's impossible to believe any stories he tells, which means that even when he's telling the truth, we think he's lying. That's entirely his fault.

Regarding him possibly being Asian, who cares? It doesn't matter at all what race he is. That has no bearing on anything else. I don't understand why his race is such a big talking point, aside from people trying to figure out who he is in real life.

I think it would be fair to say he has made a modest living playing blackjack. It's not that hard if you're dedicated.

[kewlJ]

I see DarkOz disputing Hunterhill suspension
Kudos to Darkoz bringing some honesty into the suspension discussion thread.

Here is what he wrote
"I get the PM suspension although I also don't agree with it.

But certainly seeking information on former members is worse?

Let's face it, the whole reason it was asked via PM was because it's creepy stalkerish.

The Wizard has been to my actual home once. I would consider it weird and creepy if someone started enquiring of the Wizard where I lived.

The PM system is supposed to be for secretive POSITIVE discussions. Like, hey, I need help on a sensitive Advantage play, would you like to join me? Etc

It's not for clandestine enquiries into other people's whereabouts."

I was happy to see Darkoz's post. I personally agree with it. All HH did was state that he had met me years ago. And all of the sudden he is under attack and has Mdawg contacting him seeking personal information that he can use to continue his doxxing and stalking of me. And lets be clear: what Madwg is doing is stalking. He immediately responds to any post I make hijacking the topic and often other peoples threads with his trolling and lies about me. And he has now expanded it to others like Axelwof, Terapines, MrV anyone who has ever opined that they just don't believe him. The guy (Mdawg) is sick.

And it is NOT just trolling, rising to stalking, it is doxing and attempted doxing in many cases of advantage players that can be damaged by doing so. Take his comments about Axelwolf's nationality. I have no ide if that is true or just more Mdawg lies and made up shit. But it doesn't even matter. If mdawg believes it is true, then he is attempted to dox axelwolf. To provide information that could compromise his identity. It should not be tolerated here or anywhere.

Nor should Mdawg PMing members trying to get whatever information he can on me to continue his doxxing and stalking ways. A few years ago another person 'sidthesquid' did the same thing at WoV, asking members for information on me. he did it publicly instead of privately and his account banned. (I believe it was moses). So there is precedence for Wizard taking action. Wizard is an AP, although a little different in that he is a public figure as well, but he certainly understands what is happening and what is at stake. I urge him to stop protecting and enabling Madwg and take action.

[smurgerburger]

I can't confirm anything about KJ 100%.
I think it's pretty obvious he knows enough about card counting whereas I believe he's a card counter. I haven't any idea what limits he plays or if he 100% supports himself solely on that, but to be honest I don't really care.
There have been some things that he said that make me take great pause and I just find them hard to believe.

This is pretty much my opinion about kewlJ.

Card counting is actually the easiest form of +EV gambling to learn and get fairly good at quickly. Something like poker takes a lot of experience and hours at the table. Machine APing requires a lot of experience, connections, and trial-and-error, as well as a lot of time/travel in some cases.

In 2000, I developed an interest in learning how to count cards. As embarrassing as it is to admit, I was a ploppy -EV gambler up until then, despite being old enough to gamble since the early '90s. (In my defense, I only played low limits, and only gambled once every few months, so I didn't lose much.)

Anyway, I read a text file on the internet about how to card count, spent a short time running hands through a free simulator, and voila, I was a +EV BJ player. Was way harder and more time consuming to get good at poker, which I attempted the following year.

My point is that if kewlJ wanted to learn how to become a profitable BJ player, it wouldn't have been hard for him to learn. So anyone believing he's a BJ ploppy spinning a phony tale about being a counter is just speaking from a place of hatred.

At the same time, kewlJ has also been caught in a lot of lies over time, both on this forum and elsewhere. Therefore, it is unclear if he really makes much (or anything) playing blackjack these days, especially given the increasingly difficult environment to count cards and get away with it. I don't even bother anymore, except at casinos where I don't care about getting banned.

kewlJ is basically the Boy Who Cried Wolf of these AP forums. He has lied so many times that it's impossible to believe any stories he tells, which means that even when he's telling the truth, we think he's lying. That's entirely his fault.

Regarding him possibly being Asian, who cares? It doesn't matter at all what race he is. That has no bearing on anything else. I don't understand why his race is such a big talking point, aside from people trying to figure out who he is in real life.

I think it would be fair to say he has made a modest living playing blackjack. It's not that hard if you're dedicated.

Two points:

1. The specifics of his claim, primarily to have been doing it for 6 figures for 15 years straight or whatever it is, all in LV and with minimal backoffs, is actually highly improbable (for a white male, and originally a young one at that, in particular).

Facing skepticism on this point he has tried to blur the details a bit and claim that he has been a road warrior all this time, etc., but it all doesn't add up either way.

2. The elephant in the room is that he's quite obviously a compulsive liar (faked death, fake backrooming, fake machine glitch, fake sports bonus whoring, etc.). So why believe him on anything of this nature?

I would also point out, it's actually very easy for a liar to soak up all the available info online and make a fake story for themselves. It's just a matter of having the motivation to do so... which normal people don't.

Some people have taken the position that he must be a counter because he knows a lot about counting, but all of the information he offers is just rehashes of what has been available on BJ21 and other forms for decades now.

Am I saying he neither is nor was in any sense a legitimate counter? No, because I have no evidence either way. But I do believe him being a 100% complete fraud is entirely in the cards.

[redietz]

I see DarkOz disputing Hunterhill suspension
Kudos to Darkoz bringing some honesty into the suspension discussion thread.

Here is what he wrote
"I get the PM suspension although I also don't agree with it.

But certainly seeking information on former members is worse?

Let's face it, the whole reason it was asked via PM was because it's creepy stalkerish.

The Wizard has been to my actual home once. I would consider it weird and creepy if someone started enquiring of the Wizard where I lived.

The PM system is supposed to be for secretive POSITIVE discussions. Like, hey, I need help on a sensitive Advantage play, would you like to join me? Etc

It's not for clandestine enquiries into other people's whereabouts."

I was happy to see Darkoz's post. I personally agree with it. All HH did was state that he had met me years ago. And all of the sudden he is under attack and has Mdawg contacting him seeking personal information that he can use to continue his doxxing and stalking of me. And lets be clear: what Madwg is doing is stalking. He immediately responds to any post I make hijacking the topic and often other peoples threads with his trolling and lies about me. And he has now expanded it to others like Axelwof, Terapines, MrV anyone who has ever opined that they just don't believe him. The guy (Mdawg) is sick.

And it is NOT just trolling, rising to stalking, it is doxing and attempted doxing in many cases of advantage players that can be damaged by doing so. Take his comments about Axelwolf's nationality. I have no ide if that is true or just more Mdawg lies and made up shit. But it doesn't even matter. If mdawg believes it is true, then he is attempted to dox axelwolf. To provide information that could compromise his identity. It should not be tolerated here or anywhere.

Nor should Mdawg PMing members trying to get whatever information he can on me to continue his doxxing and stalking ways. A few years ago another person 'sidthesquid' did the same thing at WoV, asking members for information on me. he did it publicly instead of privately and his account banned. (I believe it was moses). So there is precedence for Wizard taking action. Wizard is an AP, although a little different in that he is a public figure as well, but he certainly understands what is happening and what is at stake. I urge him to stop protecting and enabling Madwg and take action.

Shackleford is an AP like I'm a porn star. You can label yourself anything as long as there's no real criteria.

I mean, c'mon, just because you TRY stuff doesn't mean you're a success at DOING stuff.

Look at me! I'm an AP!! LOL.

[kewlJ]

Two points:

1. The specifics of his claim, primarily to have been doing it for 6 figures for 15 years straight or whatever it is, all in LV and with minimal backoffs, is actually highly improbable (for a white male, and originally a young one at that, in particular).

I am more concerned with the Mdawg doxing and stalking situation unfolding right now, but I do want to respond to this. Just about every word of your point #1 is wrong....incorrect. I have averaged a little under 6 figures for 15 years and have shared some really bad years along the way as part of that average. I also have had probably 70 or so backoffs during that time.

This bothers me because the reason I wanted to share my blackjack experiences and journey was to show what kind of money a grinder type player could make and the variance and ups and down, including up and down years involved as well as all the back offs. So it bothers me to have you gloss over it getting everything wrong.

One other thing: 15 years. Longevity. That hasn't been by accident. That has been my top priority since the day I relocated to Las Vegas. I wore out my welcome in Atlantic City, and now people know a little more about that, and I wanted to achieve some longevity in Las vegas, where there is a much larger rotation of casinos to play. And every aspect of my play and plan has been about that. I do some very specific things to achieve that goal (like spreading both ways and short sessions, card counter basic strategy, so you are not playing the same hand differently at different counts, among many others) and I have shared many of these things. So I don't appreciate you glossing over the 15 years longevity. That didn't JUST happen. I worked damn hard at it, figuring out what is and isn't tolerated ect.

[coach belly]

he certainly understands what is happening and what is at stake.

What is at stake?

Apparently you think that there are some successful APs on these forums.

There are certainly some high-profile APs on these forums, but their high-profile status is of their own making...not the result of being doxxed.

Which of the top guns have kept their identity a secret from all other forum members?

Many of them write about having met others, knowing others, or being friendly with others, IRL.

Which of them are hiding from everybody, or worried about MDawg's speculation about their ethnicity?

[terapinedtheskeptic]

This is pretty much my opinion about kewlJ.

Card counting is actually the easiest form of +EV gambling to learn and get fairly good at quickly. Something like poker takes a lot of experience and hours at the table. Machine APing requires a lot of experience, connections, and trial-and-error, as well as a lot of time/travel in some cases.

In 2000, I developed an interest in learning how to count cards. As embarrassing as it is to admit, I was a ploppy -EV gambler up until then, despite being old enough to gamble since the early '90s. (In my defense, I only played low limits, and only gambled once every few months, so I didn't lose much.)

Anyway, I read a text file on the internet about how to card count, spent a short time running hands through a free simulator, and voila, I was a +EV BJ player. Was way harder and more time consuming to get good at poker, which I attempted the following year.

My point is that if kewlJ wanted to learn how to become a profitable BJ player, it wouldn't have been hard for him to learn. So anyone believing he's a BJ ploppy spinning a phony tale about being a counter is just speaking from a place of hatred.

At the same time, kewlJ has also been caught in a lot of lies over time, both on this forum and elsewhere. Therefore, it is unclear if he really makes much (or anything) playing blackjack these days, especially given the increasingly difficult environment to count cards and get away with it. I don't even bother anymore, except at casinos where I don't care about getting banned.

kewlJ is basically the Boy Who Cried Wolf of these AP forums. He has lied so many times that it's impossible to believe any stories he tells, which means that even when he's telling the truth, we think he's lying. That's entirely his fault.

Regarding him possibly being Asian, who cares? It doesn't matter at all what race he is. That has no bearing on anything else. I don't understand why his race is such a big talking point, aside from people trying to figure out who he is in real life.

I think it would be fair to say he has made a modest living playing blackjack. It's not that hard if you're dedicated.

Two points:

1. The specifics of his claim, primarily to have been doing it for 6 figures for 15 years straight or whatever it is, all in LV and with minimal backoffs, is actually highly improbable (for a white male, and originally a young one at that, in particular).

Facing skepticism on this point he has tried to blur the details a bit and claim that he has been a road warrior all this time, etc., but it all doesn't add up either way.

2. The elephant in the room is that he's quite obviously a compulsive liar (faked death, fake backrooming, fake machine glitch, fake sports bonus whoring, etc.). So why believe him on anything of this nature?

I would also point out, it's actually very easy for a liar to soak up all the available info online and make a fake story for themselves. It's just a matter of having the motivation to do so... which normal people don't.

Some people have taken the position that he must be a counter because he knows a lot about counting, but all of the information he offers is just rehashes of what has been available on BJ21 and other forms for decades now.

Am I saying he neither is nor was in any sense a legitimate counter? No, because I have no evidence either way. But I do believe him being a 100% complete fraud is entirely in the cards.

Maybe he is, maybe he isn't
I dont believe Mdawg consistently wins at bac
I'll occasionally express my skepticism
But Mdawg being skeptical of Kewlj rises to stalking
Mdawg is on kewlj like white on rice
Its incredibly obssesive to the point of probable mental illness
Mdawg is compelled to respond to every single kewlj post
Often mdawg just responds with old quotes adding absolutely nothing to the discussion
He has to respond for the sake of responding even though he has absolutely nothing new to say
Ive been on a lot of boards and have never ever seen stalking like Mdawg does
Its insanity

[coach belly]

Its insanity

I think he's doing it to be entertaining and provocative.

What are your motivations for posting on these forums?

[kewlJ]

What are your motivations for posting on these forums?

What are yours coach belly?

I have encountered you on 3 gambling forums, but have been told that you have been and are on others over the years. All I see you do is troll and fight with advantage players. To the point that 2 or the 3 forums I have been on with you, the owners of the forums (shackleford and Dan Druff) took the unusual step of labeling you as a troll.

You seem to be very anti-advantage player. Often that is 1 of 2 things, a bitter losing degenerate gambler or someone associated with the casino industry of maybe a friend or family member is. So what is your deal and reason for being on these forums?

[MisterV]

I have stated a couple of times that the hound, as a California attorney, took an oath to behave at a higher standard than the average swinging dick, to wit: "As an officer of the court, I will strive to conduct myself at all times with dignity, courtesy and integrity."

Obviously his stalking, lieblous posts about KJ and others here violated his solemn oath.

The California bar association MIGHT take discipliary action against his license to practice law IF someone, anyone, were to submit a formal bar complaint against him to the California bar, with details / proof.

KJ says, so far, that he doesn't want to, perhaps concerned he'd have to identify himself and that the hound would then learn his identity.

But hey, ANYONE with a sharp axeto grind can take their best shot: all it takes is a bit of time and a stamp or two.


see:https://www.calbar.ca.gov/Public/Com...le-a-Complaint

[smurgerburger]

As always, stay classy V.

[coach belly]

So what is your deal and reason for being on these forums?

To be entertaining and provocative. Is that a problem?

Hey, I even got a big chuckle out stone-faced ditz, and without using any big words.

Anyway, who cares what Shack or Druff think?

Oh yeah, you do...you're obsessed with all that.

That's why MD keeps sticking you with Druff quotes, and you keep badgering Shack to renege.

[coach belly]

You seem to be very anti-advantage player.

I'm anti childless cat-men.

I discovered a whole kitty-condo full of them on the AP forums.

[accountinquestion]

While mdawg stalks kewl - kewl made it his point in his online life to hound the hounds over truths. Kewls lies were specifically designed to mislead people in a way mdawg never has. I've never once considered going off and using mdawg as a source of some gambling info. Tbh I don't read his trip reports or whatever it is he does. Never have. Kewl on the other hand has reached out to me in private to mislead. Kewl dug this hole on his own and it is own doing to stick around and be abused by mdawg.

Even myself has become tired of it and barely read it but Kewl is far far from some innocent nice guy. I initially took him as a very seasoned pro AP and repeated things he told me based off that. It sucks to be kewl but it also sucks to be lied to by some weirdo catfish.

[kewlJ]

. Kewl on the other hand has reached out to me in private to mislead.

Are you speaking of the shuffle machine discussion?

[AxelWolf]

I see DarkOz disputing Hunterhill suspension
Kudos to Darkoz bringing some honesty into the suspension discussion thread.

Here is what he wrote
"I get the PM suspension although I also don't agree with it.

But certainly seeking information on former members is worse?

Let's face it, the whole reason it was asked via PM was because it's creepy stalkerish.

The Wizard has been to my actual home once. I would consider it weird and creepy if someone started enquiring of the Wizard where I lived.

The PM system is supposed to be for secretive POSITIVE discussions. Like, hey, I need help on a sensitive Advantage play, would you like to join me? Etc

It's not for clandestine enquiries into other people's whereabouts."

I was happy to see Darkoz's post. I personally agree with it. All HH did was state that he had met me years ago. And all of the sudden he is under attack and has Mdawg contacting him seeking personal information that he can use to continue his doxxing and stalking of me. And lets be clear: what Madwg is doing is stalking. He immediately responds to any post I make hijacking the topic and often other peoples threads with his trolling and lies about me. And he has now expanded it to others like Axelwof, Terapines, MrV anyone who has ever opined that they just don't believe him. The guy (Mdawg) is sick.

And it is NOT just trolling, rising to stalking, it is doxing and attempted doxing in many cases of advantage players that can be damaged by doing so. Take his comments about Axelwolf's nationality. I have no ide if that is true or just more Mdawg lies and made up shit. But it doesn't even matter. If mdawg believes it is true, then he is attempted to dox axelwolf. To provide information that could compromise his identity. It should not be tolerated here or anywhere.

Nor should Mdawg PMing members trying to get whatever information he can on me to continue his doxxing and stalking ways. A few years ago another person 'sidthesquid' did the same thing at WoV, asking members for information on me. he did it publicly instead of privately and his account banned. (I believe it was moses). So there is precedence for Wizard taking action. Wizard is an AP, although a little different in that he is a public figure as well, but he certainly understands what is happening and what is at stake. I urge him to stop protecting and enabling Madwg and take action.

Shackleford is an AP like I'm a porn star. You can label yourself anything as long as there's no real criteria.

I mean, c'mon, just because you TRY stuff doesn't mean you're a success at DOING stuff.

Look at me! I'm an AP!! LOL.

The Wizard IS a part-time Advantage player. He seeks out good plays and he plays them with an advantage. I know this to be true as I have shared some good+EV plays with him and we made money. I know he does AP stuff he can't discuss. I'm sure Advantage play makes up very little of his income as it seems he has lots of irons in the fire.

[kewlJ]

Shackleford is an AP like I'm a porn star.

The Wizard IS a part-time Advantage player. He seeks out good plays and he plays them with an advantage. I know this to be true as I have shared some good+EV plays with him and we made money. I know he does AP stuff he can't discuss. I'm sure Advantage play makes up very little of his income as it seems he has lots of irons in the fire.

So I guess that means Redeitz is a porn star? What gay porn videos might we have seen you in Red?

[terapinedtheskeptic]

So what is your deal and reason for being on these forums?

To be entertaining and provocative. Is that a problem?

Hey, I even got a big chuckle out stone-faced ditz, and without using any big words.

Anyway, who cares what Shack or Druff think?

Oh yeah, you do...you're obsessed with all that.

That's why MD keeps sticking you with Druff quotes, and you keep badgering Shack to renege.

I like the Druff quote
At least Kewlj adds something original and finishes with the Druff quote
The Druff quote is right on the money
Mdawg often just posts quotes and nothing more

Are you Mdawgs father? You certainly play the part. Dad to the rescue lol



Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".