VINDICATION for KJ

[terapinedtheskeptic]

I see DarkOz disputing Hunterhill suspension
Kudos to Darkoz bringing some honesty into the suspension discussion thread.

Here is what he wrote
"I get the PM suspension although I also don't agree with it.

But certainly seeking information on former members is worse?

Let's face it, the whole reason it was asked via PM was because it's creepy stalkerish.

The Wizard has been to my actual home once. I would consider it weird and creepy if someone started enquiring of the Wizard where I lived.

The PM system is supposed to be for secretive POSITIVE discussions. Like, hey, I need help on a sensitive Advantage play, would you like to join me? Etc

It's not for clandestine enquiries into other people's whereabouts."

Terapined, in general I agree with your perspectives, but this one is Pollyanna nonsense. Like (A) is for folks of good heart and (B) is a terrible thing. LOL.

Where'd you get these ideas? Is there some Bible for Alleged APs making the rounds?

Check with Darkoz
I just did a copy and paste of his post from WOV
Not my perspective , his (darkoz) perspective

[kewlJ]

. Kewl on the other hand has reached out to me in private to mislead.

Are you speaking of the shuffle machine discussion?

Ok, I do have to go out for most of the remainer of the day and evening, so I am going to address this without your answer because if memory serves, I think your big gripe with me was over these automatic shuffle machines and my experience and conclusion.



So let me ask you, do you play a lot of blackjack AcctinQ? Thousands and thousands of hours against these machines in casino environment? Maybe you fancy yourself a tech guy and think you know how these machines work?

Well I have put in thousands and thousands of hours playing blackjack and a good portion against these machines (various types). And I purchased a machine, got it into the country where a friend shipped it to me. I opened it up and took it apart with my own hands to see and learn how it worked.

I am not a tech type guy so I did have to hire someone to show me exactly what it was capable of doing. So I am not speculating what these machines are capable of. I KNOW what they are capable of.

Now if I have misrepresented your expertise involving these machines in any way, please let me know and we can discuss it further.



In the meantime, when this discussion comes up, there are several questions (hi-lighted) that I pose that anyone arguing with me has never had an answer for.

1) These machines are capable of putting the cards back in sequential order. (I assume you will not argue that). So why would anyone think they don’t have the capability to put cards in any order desired?

2)The reason the machines can place the cards in sequential order (or any order) is because they have card readers. Why did these machines need card readers to read the cards?

They could have detected a missing card without card readers. Wouldn’t have known what card, but would have known the deck was a card or two short. Having card readers in these machines opened up the possibility of all kinds of things (stacking the deck) that were illegal and against most jurisdictions regulations. They didn’t go to the trouble and expense of card readers, just so they knew which card was missing when the deck was short. There is/was something else going on, or they were leaving the door open for something else to go on at a later date.

I know this. I have proven it to myself. So please inform me of your expertise to the extent you know what I saw and experienced with my own eyes and hands is wrong.

And if I am wrong and your issue is something else, please inform me and we can discuss it. Unlike Mdawg, I can and will discuss anything in a reasonable manner without just attacking those that may disagree or not beleive something I have said.

[terapinedtheskeptic]

What I find fascinating about Mdawgs long long long long long long long post regarding my suspension history at WOV is that he starts off with B9. Yes I got suspended for 3 days for calling Beethoven9th a troll. This was way way way way back when the Wizard started the no insult rule. B9 constantly insulted members and mods before the no insult rule. B9 Continued to insult but in a more sly way. Yes I called B9 a troll because it was true. B9 stopped being sly and started to outright insult the mods , especially mod beachbumbabs. B9 was suspended for that. B9 would come back and immediately insult the mods again. B9 was given so many chances yet continued to outright insult the Mods. Finally he got nuked by the wizard. For some reason the Wizard gave him another chance after being nuked. Weird. Probably the only member given a 2nd chance after being nuked. B9 immediately went back to insulting the mods. He was unbelievable with the constant hatred. Finally permanently nuked by the wizard. It's pretty rich that Mdawg is bringing up B9 , a member that couldn't control himself with his hate towards mod beachbumbabs. Kind of reminds me of Mdawg lol

[kewlJ]

Terapined, you aren't the first person to see similarities between the Dawg and several other previously banned members of WoV. This most assuredly isn't his first go-round.

He can hide and change IP addresses, but he can't hide the hatred and other similarities.

[MDawg]

UNKewlJ on a manic



laying down 10X multiplier after 10X multiplier the end result being that he confirms to us more than ever what a liar he is.

What’s crazy about all this is that any normal person would realize that his ever changing story and desperate attempts to put out fires is just confirming that his story is false, and making him look even worse, but a sociopathic liar can’t help himself, and keeps lying just to cover up other lies.

The Pac Islander would do better to just have some Asian food and crawl back to his tunnel. Of course one doesn't need to be Asian to eat Asian food. But in his case...

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[terapinedtheskeptic]

UNKewlJ on a manic



laying down 10X multiplier after 10X multiplier the end result being that he confirms to us more than ever what a liar he is.

What’s crazy about all this is that any normal person would realize that his ever changing story and desperate attempts to put out fires is just confirming that his story is false, and making him look even worse, but a sociopathic liar can’t help himself, and keeps lying just to cover up other lies.

The Pac Islander would do better to just have some Asian food and crawl back to his tunnel. Of course one doesn't need to be Asian to eat Asian food. But in his case...

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Are you B9. You both hate Beachbumbbabs. The similarities between you and B9 are stunning. I'm surprised you went so far far far far back in WOV history to refer to an old nuked member with such hatred for the mods.
Is Coach Belly your father. He gushes over you flashing the cheese as if you are his son. Weird.

Things I trust more then Mdawg
Flint MI tap water
Gas station sushi
Bill Cosby as the bartender
Taco Bell bathrooms
Tom Brady putting air in my tires
A North Korean trial
A shot from Dr Kevorkian
A Casey Anthony daycare
A fart when I have diarrhea
KewlJ
Redietz
Mister V
Jdaewoo
AxelWolf
Boz
Keystone
jdog
soxfan

Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

[kewlJ]

. Kewl on the other hand has reached out to me in private to mislead.

Are you speaking of the shuffle machine discussion?

Ok, I do have to go out for most of the remainer of the day and evening, so I am going to address this without your answer because if memory serves, I think your big gripe with me was over these automatic shuffle machines and my experience and conclusion.



So let me ask you, do you play a lot of blackjack AcctinQ? Thousands and thousands of hours against these machines in casino environment? Maybe you fancy yourself a tech guy and think you know how these machines work?

Well I have put in thousands and thousands of hours playing blackjack and a good portion against these machines (various types). And I purchased a machine, got it into the country where a friend shipped it to me. I opened it up and took it apart with my own hands to see and learn how it worked.

I am not a tech type guy so I did have to hire someone to show me exactly what it was capable of doing. So I am not speculating what these machines are capable of. I KNOW what they are capable of.

Now if I have misrepresented your expertise involving these machines in any way, please let me know and we can discuss it further.



In the meantime, when this discussion comes up, there are several questions (hi-lighted) that I pose that anyone arguing with me has never had an answer for.

1) These machines are capable of putting the cards back in sequential order. (I assume you will not argue that). So why would anyone think they don’t have the capability to put cards in any order desired?

2)The reason the machines can place the cards in sequential order (or any order) is because they have card readers. Why did these machines need card readers to read the cards?

They could have detected a missing card without card readers. Wouldn’t have known what card, but would have known the deck was a card or two short. Having card readers in these machines opened up the possibility of all kinds of things (stacking the deck) that were illegal and against most jurisdictions regulations. They didn’t go to the trouble and expense of card readers, just so they knew which card was missing when the deck was short. There is/was something else going on, or they were leaving the door open for something else to go on at a later date.

I know this. I have proven it to myself. So please inform me of your expertise to the extent you know what I saw and experienced with my own eyes and hands is wrong.

And if I am wrong and your issue is something else, please inform me and we can discuss it. Unlike Mdawg, I can and will discuss anything in a reasonable manner without just attacking those that may disagree or not beleive something I have said.

Crickets!!!

AcctinQ, if you didn't want to discuss it, then why did you bring it up again?

I really would like to hear exactly what your expertise is involving these shuffle machines that you can tell me, who have physically had my hands on one looking under the hood and seeing how they work, that I am wrong.

I was also hoping that you might have an answer to the 2 questions that I posed, which no one has EVER had an answer for in any discussion about the shufflers. I thought you might be the one. Guess I will have to wait for the next sap that comes along talking shit about these machines that he knows nothing about.

[Tasha]

Terapinedtheskeptic you seem obsessed with MDawg and I don't think he has bothered to even respond to any of your posts in a while.

[terapinedtheskeptic]

Terapinedtheskeptic you seem obsessed with MDawg and I don't think he has bothered to even respond to any of your posts in a while.

Not nearly as obsessed as he is with Kewlj. Its not even close
Im responding to his incessant hatred of kewlj turning this place into a cesspool
He's sending the B team against me instead. His "father" coach belly lol

[AxelWolf]

What I find fascinating about Mdawgs long long long long long long long post regarding my suspension history at WOV is that he starts off with B9. Yes I got suspended for 3 days for calling Beethoven9th a troll. This was way way way way back when the Wizard started the no insult rule. B9 constantly insulted members and mods before the no insult rule. B9 Continued to insult but in a more sly way. Yes I called B9 a troll because it was true. B9 stopped being sly and started to outright insult the mods , especially mod beachbumbabs. B9 was suspended for that. B9 would come back and immediately insult the mods again. B9 was given so many chances yet continued to outright insult the Mods. Finally he got nuked by the wizard. For some reason the Wizard gave him another chance after being nuked. Weird. Probably the only member given a 2nd chance after being nuked. B9 immediately went back to insulting the mods. He was unbelievable with the constant hatred. Finally permanently nuked by the wizard. It's pretty rich that Mdawg is bringing up B9 , a member that couldn't control himself with his hate towards mod beachbumbabs. Kind of reminds me of Mdawg lol

I do believe there's a difference between B9 and Beethoven9th. Baccaratfrom79 =B9 in some cases.

Baccaratfrom79 took his boss's identity, baccarat Adventures/stories, pictures, and Adventures and used them for himself pretending they were his.
I was suspicious that Mdawg might in fact be Baccaratfrom79 at the beginning, however, I disregarded that notion soon after.
At some point, he jumped the shark making up some big whoppers. I think he saved some 60 people's lives in a row or some nonsense.
Then he went total batshit crazy. Oh yeah, it was B79 we called him, perhaps disregard.

[coach belly]

lol

turtle hed the septic

Take the skin and peel it back
Now doesn't it make you feel better?

[kewlJ]

I do believe there's a difference between B9 and Beethoven9th. Baccaratfrom79 =B9 in some cases.

Baccaratfrom79 took his boss's identity, baccarat Adventures/stories, pictures, and Adventures and used them for himself pretending they were his.
I was suspicious that Mdawg might in fact be Baccaratfrom79 at the beginning, however, I disregarded that notion soon after.
At some point, he jumped the shark making up some big whoppers. I think he saved some 60 people's lives in a row or some nonsense.
Then he went total batshit crazy. Oh yeah, it was B79 we called him, perhaps disregard.

Interesting. While I was at Wov off and on since 2012, which covers some of that time period, I just didn't have any interest or get involved in those type of discussions involving baccarat, so I defer to your judgement.

But here is a question or observation I have about baccarat players on gambling forums. It seems like there is a disproportionate number of baccarat players believing or at least claiming to be long term and usually big winning players when there is no evidence of anything that would make or turn their play +EV. Why is that? Is it something about baccarat or are these types of people (a little delusional) drawn to the game?

[soxfan]

The kewl-J always like to make the scene with all kinda narrative and theory. And, he wanna re-visit his tale of supposedly gettin his mitts on a shuffles-machine and figure out that some joint was gonna use the shuffles-machine for some undisclosed nefarious purpose, hey hey!

[Dan Druff]

I have stated a couple of times that the hound, as a California attorney, took an oath to behave at a higher standard than the average swinging dick, to wit: "As an officer of the court, I will strive to conduct myself at all times with dignity, courtesy and integrity."

Obviously his stalking, lieblous posts about KJ and others here violated his solemn oath.

The California bar association MIGHT take discipliary action against his license to practice law IF someone, anyone, were to submit a formal bar complaint against him to the California bar, with details / proof.

KJ says, so far, that he doesn't want to, perhaps concerned he'd have to identify himself and that the hound would then learn his identity.

But hey, ANYONE with a sharp axeto grind can take their best shot: all it takes is a bit of time and a stamp or two.


see:https://www.calbar.ca.gov/Public/Com...le-a-Complaint

If only!

The California Bar doesn't give a shit unless something is either:

1) Egregious
-or-
2) Proven in a court of law

Lots of very badly behaved attorneys in California, and the bar does nothing, despite lots of complaints.

[jdaewoo]

There are essentially 2 ways to be disbarred.

1) Fuck with a client's money

2) Fuck a client

Keep your IOLTA account in good order and keep your dick/twat in your pants and you aren't getting disbarred short of stabbing a judge in the eye.

[MDawg]

Terapinedtheskeptic you seem obsessed with MDawg and I don't think he has bothered to even respond to any of your posts in a while.

T.Pined can't help talking about someone who is clearly so fascinating to him, but I don't see anything worth responding to any longer - if he comes with something different, something NEW, I might respond. The thrill is gone!

Clearly a man who made his living by physical work, self-educated, a terrific bore as soon as he has spotted you as "a man of intelligence."

It is interesting though how UNKewl he is with the same sort of

repeating embellishments or outright lies about others over and over.

From what I have been told, Terapined is some guy whose mind boggles and can't relate to anyone who has ever earned more than $50K a year.

As I pointed out, he was going on and on in 2020 and early 2021 about how there was no way MDawg would ever show his face in front of Wizard to be witnessed playing Baccarat, that this was "impossible" and "No way Mdawg allows us to see him."

He's extremely stubborn, opinionated and has a one track mind - quite different from any Deadhead of which I can think.

As I pointed out at WOV, every time he got suspended, he ran with his tail between his legs for up to a year or so, before returning - so you tell me if he takes forums and suspensions seriously or not. It is typically the guy who goes to great lengths to say he doesn't take any of this seriously, who takes it the most seriously of all (for example, look at UNKewlJ).

[terapinedtheskeptic]

Terapinedtheskeptic you seem obsessed with MDawg and I don't think he has bothered to even respond to any of your posts in a while.

T.Pined can't help talking about someone who is clearly so fascinating to him, but I don't see anything worth responding to any longer. The thrill is gone!

Clearly a man who made his living by physical work, self-educated, a terrific bore as soon as he has spotted you as "a man of intelligence."

It is interesting though how UNKewl he is with the same sort of

repeating embellishments or outright lies about others over and over.

Mdawg way way way off the mark
Why am I not surprised by the flailing
As usual, Mdawg lies unless he considers being on a keyboard 40 hrs a week before I retired physical work.
Yea I did have to climb my home steps to get to work in my home office but I don't consider that very physical lol

[kewlJ]

As far as me filing a complaint against Mdawg with the Cal Bar. I have thought of it at times. But I just wouldn't feel comfortable doing so. Mdawg doxed me which caused real financial harm to me and my career. But I won't do that to other people. That is all I am going to say about that.

But I do want to go back to this thread, started by MrV. When HH spoke up, I knew this topic would come up. But I wasn't thrilled with the wording of this thread at first. because I have nothing to be vindicated about. I am a real AP living playing this town who has shared some (many at times too much) of my experiences. Have I changed things, and even lied along the way to protect myself? Absolutely. EVERY AP that shares a lot of what they do needs to do some of that. But any untruth I have told have been about minor details, not what I do or make. SO I didn't feel I needed vindication.

But whether I felt I needed it or not, it did come, when HH spoke up. Haters here refuse to accept it but it did come. Again, that is on them, not me. While I still can't picture HH, or remember a formal meeting introduction, the information I have learned this week, clears up a few things about why, how we met 16 years ago. Why our paths crossed at that time. I just feel bad that he is now subject to Mdawg vicious slanderous attacks.

[MDawg]

What’s crazy about all this is that any normal person would realize that his ever changing story and desperate attempts to put out fires is just confirming that his story is false, and making him look even worse, but a sociopathic liar can’t help himself, and keeps lying just to cover up other lies.

[kewlJ]

You are a very sick dog (not Dawg, but dog). You are a narcissist, liar, very insecure and small person and a degenerate losing type gambler telling a story. And seemingly angry as hell at real players that win using math and advantage play techniques. You are the absolute person the casinos want. Someone that loses money in exchange for some overpriced comps worth a tiny fraction of his losses. That is the casino model and Mdawg fits it perfectly.