Baccarats Realities!!!!

[MisterV]

Yer not a successful ap/cards-counter, yer a fraud and a bulls-shits artist and that's why you never have and never will back up any of yer claim, hey hey.

The gauntlet has been thrown by our cashew chewing baccarat savant; tell ya what, soxfan...you call KJ a bull-shit artist and a fraud because he never backs up any of his claims.

OK then, time for YOU to back up and prove your claim that you make $600K profit a year playing baccarat.

Oh, and nobody should have to make a wager in order to see the proof...either put up or shut the fuck up.

Hey hey, you're so fey.

[soxfan]

Yer not a successful ap/cards-counter, yer a fraud and a bulls-shits artist and that's why you never have and never will back up any of yer claim, hey hey.

The gauntlet has been thrown by our cashew chewing baccarat savant; tell ya what, soxfan...you call KJ a bull-shit artist and a fraud because he never backs up any of his claims.

OK then, time for YOU to back up and prove your claim that you make $600K profit a year playing baccarat.

Oh, and nobody should have to make a wager in order to see the proof...either put up or shut the fuck up.

Hey hey, you're so fey.

I already said I would pony up and prove my style. Pony up some cake and come at me with legit hand dealt baccarats outs-come and I'll play against them any damned day of the week. Funny how the kewl-J has NEVER posted any result, never said oh I got clipped the other day for so many unit, or last session I captured profits exceeding expected ev, or whatever. But, you keep kissing the kewl-frauds backs-side you dumb-fuck, pot-head, hey hey!

[soxfan]

Well, old chaps, here are some more baccarats result. My expected daily ev is 22.5 unit but right now am in the downs-ward trend, but then unlike others I live in the real world so I pony up the ugly, the bad and the good, hey hey.
+3.4
+5.25
-.55
+3.3
-1.45
-2.55
-2.45
-2.55
+1.4
-.5
+4.35
-2.45
+8.2
-5.35
-1.45
+1.5

+11.9 unit profit for the day

[kewlJ]

THIS is not posting and proving result.

I pony up the result from the shoe what I play yesterday, hey hey.
-4.4
-2.45
+2.45
+.45
+1.35
+7.35
+2.35
+4.3
-3.4
+3.3
+4.45
-4.35
+6.35
+.5
+4.3
+1.4
-1.5

[soxfan]

THIS is not posting and proving result.

I pony up the result from the shoe what I play yesterday, hey hey.
-4.4
-2.45
+2.45
+.45
+1.35
+7.35
+2.35
+4.3
-3.4
+3.3
+4.45
-4.35
+6.35
+.5
+4.3
+1.4
-1.5

I've got 4ks$ US waitin for ya, just pony up and prove yer supposed prowess-ability to keep accurate count of multiple shoe, simultaneous, hey hey.

[soxfan]

My baccarats style is not the bulls-shits style, it don't involve betting into streak and it don't employ any wild progression. My style is the strict bets-flat winner what is good for 1.25 units, nets profits longs-term, simple and plain, hey hey.

[kewlJ]

Recently a cat clipped the Bellagio for 50$ millions at the baccarats tables, and he never got backed off. How many cats have ever been backed of from the baccarats? Yer not a successful ap/cards-counter, yer a fraud and a bulls-shits artist and that's why you never have and never will back up any of yer claim, hey hey.

This is why people just ignore you baccarat retards. You probably believe this kind of nonsense.

Show me a link to a legitimate news story from a legitimate news source where someone won 50 million at baccarat from Bellagio. There is NONE! And I mean legitimate! not some tic tok or reddit story about someone like mikki maze or some other make believe shit.

A real story like this would have been headline on all the Vegas newspapers and would have been a story in every major newspaper and would have been covered by every legitimate gambling outlet. But there is nothing. This is just gambling folklore by goofy baccarat players. It isn't real!! Casinos probably make this shit up to keep you guys coming.

Look, every once in a while some super high roller does win multiple million. But in almost every case he has lost far more than that on other trips. The casinos know who he is, and what he is doing. THAT is why they tolerate the action.

If you think some casino is just allowing some unknown player to win millions, not knowing what he is doing, you might as well believe every other completely fiction fantasy out there. I hear Jack climbed the beanstalk and slayed some giants.

Baccarat players are the least grounded in reality people I have ever seen.

[soxfan]

Recently a cat clipped the Bellagio for 50$ millions at the baccarats tables, and he never got backed off. How many cats have ever been backed of from the baccarats? Yer not a successful ap/cards-counter, yer a fraud and a bulls-shits artist and that's why you never have and never will back up any of yer claim, hey hey.

This is why people just ignore you baccarat retards. You probably believe this kind of nonsense.

Show me a link to a legitimate news story from a legitimate news source where someone won 50 million at baccarat from Bellagio. There is NONE! And I mean legitimate! not some tic tok or reddit story about someone like mikki maze or some other make believe shit.

A real story like this would have been headline on all the Vegas newspapers and would have been a story in every major newspaper and would have been covered by every legitimate gambling outlet. But there is nothing. This is just gambling folklore by goofy baccarat players. It isn't real!! Casinos probably make this shit up to keep you guys coming.

Look, every once in a while some super high roller does win multiple million. But in almost every case he has lost far more than that on other trips. The casinos know who he is, and what he is doing. THAT is why they tolerate the action.

If you think some casino is just allowing some unknown player to win millions, not knowing what he is doing, you might as well believe every other completely fiction fantasy out there. I hear Jack climbed the beanstalk and slayed some giants.

Baccarat players are the least grounded in reality people I have ever seen.

Bbbbwwwaaahhh, yer the last cat on the planet what should talk about other being not grounded in realities, hey hey!!!!

[kewlJ]

A major part of being or becoming a real advantage player, who can beat the casinos long-term is understanding the casino industry. Understanding how it works, what they tolerate and don't tolerate., what happens when you win a significant amount in the 10's of thousands not millions, because there are cause and effects of winning 10's of thousands. People have to answer for it. If it happens enough people are fired or demoted. You need to understand the communications between casinos, sister or chain properties as well as non-related, and what triggers what.

Only then can you begin to win money from casinos on a regular basis using some mathematically proven advantage play method.

or you can be a baccarat player claiming to win millions while casinos don't care and love you for it.

Which sounds real and which sounds like fantasy type gambling folklore?

[soxfan]

A major part of being or becoming a real advantage player, who can beat the casinos long-term is understanding the casino industry. Understanding how it works, what they tolerate and don't tolerate., what happens when you win a significant amount in the 10's of thousands not millions, because there are cause and effects of winning 10's of thousands. People have to answer for it. If it happens enough people are fired or demoted. You need to understand the communications between casinos, sister or chain properties as well as non-related, and what triggers what.

Only then can you begin to win money from casinos on a regular basis using some mathematically proven advantage play method.

or you can be a baccarat player claiming to win millions while casinos don't care and love you for it.

Which sounds real and which sounds like fantasy type gambling folklore?

Ok, one more time; the casinos think that the baccarats is the unbeatable proposition! Baccarats ain't 21, so they assume cats wining for a fairly long period are just on the right side of variance. I'm wagering a single black chip, and there are usually lots of cats wagering waaayyy more than that when I'm playing so my actions don't stand out. I imagine that at some point I might get backed off but then I can just grind out at the mortars and brick joint, hey hey.

[kewlJ]

A major part of being or becoming a real advantage player, who can beat the casinos long-term is understanding the casino industry. Understanding how it works, what they tolerate and don't tolerate., what happens when you win a significant amount in the 10's of thousands not millions, because there are cause and effects of winning 10's of thousands. People have to answer for it. If it happens enough people are fired or demoted. You need to understand the communications between casinos, sister or chain properties as well as non-related, and what triggers what.

Only then can you begin to win money from casinos on a regular basis using some mathematically proven advantage play method.

or you can be a baccarat player claiming to win millions while casinos don't care and love you for it.

Which sounds real and which sounds like fantasy type gambling folklore?

Ok, one more time; the casinos think that the baccarats is the unbeatable proposition! Baccarats ain't 21, so they assume cats wining for a fairly long period are just on the right side of variance.

So that is your answer? Casinos think baccarat can't be beat so they would just ignore all the loss at the tables that would occur if it was being beaten like you and other baccarat nits claim?

Numbers are reported monthly. Wins and losses by game for each casino. Public information. And inside those numbers casinos have numbers for every day and every shift. They know what a table should perform every day (and shift). If there is an unusual result they may chalk it up to variance for a day or two if they know some higher end player got lucky and won that day or night. But what you are claiming is just complete non-sense by a person that just doesn't know how the industry works.

"Casinos think baccarat can't be beat so they just allow players to beat it for millions". Goofy ass, Singer-esque type stuff. Several planets to the east of reality.

But you go on. This kind of bullshit is welcome here. I am not going to bother getting involved with another one of you lunatics though. We are done.

[soxfan]

A major part of being or becoming a real advantage player, who can beat the casinos long-term is understanding the casino industry. Understanding how it works, what they tolerate and don't tolerate., what happens when you win a significant amount in the 10's of thousands not millions, because there are cause and effects of winning 10's of thousands. People have to answer for it. If it happens enough people are fired or demoted. You need to understand the communications between casinos, sister or chain properties as well as non-related, and what triggers what.

Only then can you begin to win money from casinos on a regular basis using some mathematically proven advantage play method.

or you can be a baccarat player claiming to win millions while casinos don't care and love you for it.

Which sounds real and which sounds like fantasy type gambling folklore?

Ok, one more time; the casinos think that the baccarats is the unbeatable proposition! Baccarats ain't 21, so they assume cats wining for a fairly long period are just on the right side of variance.

So that is your answer? Casinos think baccarat can't be beat so they would just ignore all the loss at the tables that would occur if it was being beaten like you and other baccarat nits claim?

Numbers are reported monthly. Wins and losses by game for each casino. Public information. And inside those numbers casinos have numbers for every day and every shift. They know what a table should perform every day (and shift). If there is an unusual result they may chalk it up to variance for a day or two if they know some higher end player got lucky and won that day or night. But what you are claiming is just complete non-sense by a person that just doesn't know how the industry works.

"Casinos think baccarat can't be beat so they just allow players to beat it for millions". Goofy ass, Singer-esque type stuff. Several planets to the east of reality.

But you go on. This kind of bullshit is welcome here. I am not going to bother getting involved with another one of you lunatics though. We are done.

No need to keep going around and round. Bottom line, I'm willing to pony up and accept the challenge, now what you, hey hey?

[kewlJ]

No need to keep going around and round. Bottom line, I'm willing to pony up and accept the challenge, now what you, hey hey?

Do me a favor. And I ask this respectfully. Just stop directing anything to or towards me. I just am not interested in dealing with another one of you baccarat nut cases who thinks what you read on tick tok, reddit or youtube is real. That is as far from gambling reality as you can get.

So do what you want. say what you want. another fucftard making ridiculous claims here isn't going to matter. Just leave me out of it.

Thank you and have a delusional day.

[MisterV]

I'm willing to pony up and accept the challenge, now what you, hey hey?

Fuck this "challenge" bullshit, soxfan: ain't gonna happen and it is wholly unnecessary.

Just provide PROOF.

Oh wait...you have none?

Just hot air and itchy typing fingers?

Got it.

[jdaewoo]

Oh look, a retard says he's a longterm winner without using any AP. Never seen that before.

[coach belly]

the casinos assume cats wining for a fairly long period are just on the right side of variance.

That's right, and exactly what happened with Jacobson's big player.

if you want to claim you are a winning player doing whatever, have something you can point to that makes your play +EV

Your logic is all FUBAR.

Pointing at something on a forum has no effect on whether or not a player has been winning or has won.

Additionally, there are no forum requirements whatsoever to either be a winning player, or to claim to be a winning player.

An individual player doesn't need a mathematical edge to win. As a matter of fact, the math proves that a player can win without a mathematical edge. Jacobson confirmed it...and it happens continuously.

Any analysis relying on expectation must encompass the entire scale of expected results, including winning.

Their comps only prove that they have played, not whether or not they have won or lost overall. If it's important to you to prove that they have not won overall, then your opinion about "the way things work" proves nothing.

[MisterV]

I suppose that it could happen in theory, but I doubt it is happening as soxfan claims.

No, I think he wants bathe in the reflected glory (or is it shame?) of KJ and the hound who gather a great deal of attention for their unsubstantiated claims.

Sure, he sees how the game works and now he wants to play: that's cool.

[soxfan]

No need to keep going around and round. Bottom line, I'm willing to pony up and accept the challenge, now what you, hey hey?

Do me a favor. And I ask this respectfully. Just stop directing anything to or towards me. I just am not interested in dealing with another one of you baccarat nut cases who thinks what you read on tick tok, reddit or youtube is real. That is as far from gambling reality as you can get.

So do what you want. say what you want. another fucftard making ridiculous claims here isn't going to matter. Just leave me out of it.

Thank you and have a delusional day.

I have said that I will pony up, accept the challenge and prove my style. Now, what about you? Are you gonna pony up and prove something, just one thing to back up all of yer bulls-shits narrative and claim, hey hey?

[MisterV]

How could he participate in a challenge and protect his anonymity?

[soxfan]

I'm willing to pony up and accept the challenge, now what you, hey hey?

Fuck this "challenge" bullshit, soxfan: ain't gonna happen and it is wholly unnecessary.

Just provide PROOF.

Oh wait...you have none?

Just hot air and itchy typing fingers?

Got it.

The challenge is the only way to prove anything. By playing on a fly against real result in real time will prove, without doubt my claim. Otherwise any proof I provide will have squealing cunts come over the top to say that the proff was doctored, photo-shop, whatever. Now you keep yer nose in the fraud-j's asshole and maybe he'll give you a shot after he's done with his hen-peck jew boyfriend, hey hey.