The WoV Thread

[MDawg]

You have no idea what people have gotten away with winning.

It's funny because UNKewlJ often rants, crying his eyes out about how "that's NOT the way things are done" - whining with cheese about the way comps work or don't work in Vegas (when he's never been comp'ed much of anything beyond a hot dog) or whining without cheese about how high rollers are treated or not treated in Vegas when he obviously has no idea

the bottom line is I just simply believe what MDawg has posted is more plausible in it's totality. Unlike you, I have the ability to understand that there are things I don't know that others possibly do. I also have enough knowledge to understand how winning play could be tolerated under an arrangement.

[Rob.Singer]

This sand "monkey" hijacks every legit gambling discussion with his bullshit trolling.

The only thing he has demonstrated any knowledge of is the comp system. Losing players tend to know and work the comp system. That is the freaking casino model. The way it is supposed to work. Player loses, gets comped. mdawg to a tee.

Kew, when is your dense ass gonna finally get that you have a very rudimentary comprehension about the high roller comp system, and that your ad nauseum "this isn't how LV works" goes nowhere beyond the pitiful comps YOU get from losing?

Wake up and smell the urine.

[kewlJ]

Kew, when is your dense ass gonna finally get that you have a very rudimentary comprehension about the high roller comp system, and that your ad nauseum "this isn't how LV works" goes nowhere beyond the pitiful comps YOU get from losing?

Ron, when is YOUR dense ass gonna finally realize that my comprehension of how things work isn't only from my 15+ years of living and playing Las Vegas professionally. I have been fortunate enough to network with and speak with many other blackjack and table game players that make a living APing. I also have a very good friend that works the pits of a major strip casino that I speak with several times a week, not all about advantage play or gambling as he is a good friend. But I pick his brain and receive invaluable information frequently. I have had the opportunity to speak a number of times, with multiple other people working the other side, including a couple people that work surveillance.

I make it my business to know and learn everything I can, because ....it is my business. That is what I do for a living.

You cannot like me for whatever reason you want Ron. You can play your forum bad boy troll games. No one cares. But you, even as a recreational losing player, know damn well I KNOW what I am talking about. And we know you know because you Rob Singer, were one of the very first to call out Mdawg and his BS claims, before joining forces with him for trolling purposes.

So you aren't fooling anyone with these games you play old man. And stop pissing yourself so no one has to smell the urine.

[accountinquestion]

You are basically the forum equivalent of a paint by numbers painter.

[kewlJ]

You are basically the forum equivalent of a paint by numbers painter.

Leonardo Da Vinci invented paint by numbers. Um...he did pretty well for himself, no?

[Rob.Singer]

Kew, when is your dense ass gonna finally get that you have a very rudimentary comprehension about the high roller comp system, and that your ad nauseum "this isn't how LV works" goes nowhere beyond the pitiful comps YOU get from losing?

Ron, when is YOUR dense ass gonna finally realize that my comprehension of how things work isn't only from my 15+ years of living and playing Las Vegas professionally. I have been fortunate enough to network with and speak with many other blackjack and table game players that make a living APing. I also have a very good friend that works the pits of a major strip casino that I speak with several times a week, not all about advantage play or gambling as he is a good friend. But I pick his brain and receive invaluable information frequently. I have had the opportunity to speak a number of times, with multiple other people working the other side, including a couple people that work surveillance.

I make it my business to know and learn everything I can, because ....it is my business. That is what I do for a living.

You cannot like me for whatever reason you want Ron. You can play your forum bad boy troll games. No one cares. But you, even as a recreational losing player, know damn well I KNOW what I am talking about. And we know you know because you Rob Singer, were one of the very first to call out Mdawg and his BS claims, before joining forces with him for trolling purposes.

So you aren't fooling anyone with these games you play old man. And stop pissing yourself so no one has to smell the urine.

What you keep missing because, like the Democrats who kept trying to believe Joe Biden was "sharp as a tack" and Kamala Harris was an intelligent lady--when they all knew much better--is that nearly everything you say keeps getting mowed down like Mexicans doing their first yard on a Monday morning at 7am, by basically everyone who reads your repeated lies.

Just because you claim it doesn't make it so. And you should've paid slightly more attention to AQ and the devastating surf board calamity.

Kew, your "business" is NOT professional bj playing and your knowledge is definitelyNOT how casinos treat hi-end winners and losers. What your "business" really is, is spending ungodly amounts of time trolling the internet trying to create a false identity in you neurotic quest to convince readers that you're something you're not. Who goes thru such ridiculous hoops as that? Most certainly, NOT professional gamblers of any type. And you sir, are a bona fide charlatan.

Not all of it is in vain though. As most of us have pointed out, you have scored an A for all the bj knowledge you've gleaned and provided as part of your ruse. But you have fallen FAR short in both your thoroughness as well as your discipline and preparation, in your years-long bombastic effort. You never thought you'd get caught in so many lies, then you looked even more foolish trying to explain & squirm your way out of them (which I greatly enjoyed, by the way ).

The verdict has been in for a very long time kew. And, like just about everything else that's brought you down, you know it.

[jdaewoo]

Isn't this the retard who posted a picture of a fake jackpot out of his basement with weight equipment reflecting on the screen?

[kewlJ]

Isn't this the retard who posted a picture of a fake jackpot out of his basement with weight equipment reflecting on the screen?

LoL @ Jdaewoo.

[kewlJ]

Not all of it is in vain though. As most of us have pointed out, you have scored an A for all the bj knowledge you've gleaned and provided as part of your ruse. But you have fallen FAR short in both your thoroughness as well as your discipline and preparation, in your years-long bombastic effort.

This seems to be the common troll/KJ hater's theme these days. That I have spent 20 years learning all I could about blackjack and card counting as some kind of "ruse" on a forum with 10-12 active members. Dawg, Singer, acctinQ all have come up with or repeated this same sillyness. Not sure if each has come up with it on their own or there is some "talking points" being passed around and repeated.

But here is the thing, Not one of these guys can explain how I would benefit from that. I am not selling anything or writing a book. No matter how hard they try, there is always a point these clowns fall flat on their face, and/or their troll "theories" fall flat on their face.

[kewlJ]

But being this is the WoV thread, I want to update on Dawgs latest post at WoV. I am ignoring the claims of winning on this latest trip, just as everyuone else is ignoring it. But I want to focus on this latest post which was as follows:

Comps and other advantages based on theo loss are what the perpetual comp machine is all about.

"Theo" is a common talking point from Dawg in talking about all the comps he receives. I guess he thinks real players don't know or understand "theo".

But here is the thing: Theo is only used until the casino get to know a player. When there is no track record, they go by theo, which is basically expected loss (expected value playing -EV). So with no track record sure they go by theo.

BUT, once a player has established a reasonable record, and that record defies theo, as Mdawg claims, they no longer use theo, they use actual wins/losses. And once that player has established a record, that defies theo, like Dawg claims, THAT is when casinos will begin to take a close look at what he is doing and put a stop to it, if the players is winning defying -EV theo. This is the part Dawg has never understood.

AND this is exactly while real table game players that win long-term, choose to give up playing rated. So that track record is a little harder to see. It isn't staring the pit folks in the face.

And once casinos really begin to take a look at a player showing consistent wins that defy theo or expectation, do you know what one of the very first counter-measures is....even before they have definitively figured everything out? Yep, it is reducing and cutting off comps and offers, including no mailing players.

What Dawg claims about theo, just like the rest of his story ONLY works if he is a losing player. THAT is and has always been the only way his story and claims fit reality. So like Druff said: His story is fabricated, exaggerated or something (like the losing days) are left out.

So I have to pose the very same question that Singer asks: Why would a guy (dawg) spend 5+ years now, on this story, that every real player knows is not the way things work?

[accountinquestion]

Lol get help.

[kewlJ]

Lol get help.

Go to AA.

[accountinquestion]

Lol get help.

Go to AA.

One has to play more than AA in life?


Actually it is an interesting question - Does the average AA member have a bigger problem with substances than Kewl has with his fake identity on the internet? I feel the addiction is no less in Kewl but perhaps the outcome is harmless. Really have no clue what the guy does to support himself but pretty damn sure it isn't counting cards.

[MDawg]

With sociopaths it's all about what they need at the moment. It is now evidently clear that this is what we are dealing with when it comes to this fraud.

[jdaewoo]

Why isn't this retard playing more fake baccarat?

[Rob.Singer]

But being this is the WoV thread, I want to update on Dawgs latest post at WoV. I am ignoring the claims of winning on this latest trip, just as everyuone else is ignoring it. But I want to focus on this latest post which was as follows:

Comps and other advantages based on theo loss are what the perpetual comp machine is all about.

"Theo" is a common talking point from Dawg in talking about all the comps he receives. I guess he thinks real players don't know or understand "theo".

But here is the thing: Theo is only used until the casino get to know a player. When there is no track record, they go by theo, which is basically expected loss (expected value playing -EV). So with no track record sure they go by theo.

BUT, once a player has established a reasonable record, and that record defies theo, as Mdawg claims, they no longer use theo, they use actual wins/losses. And once that player has established a record, that defies theo, like Dawg claims, THAT is when casinos will begin to take a close look at what he is doing and put a stop to it, if the players is winning defying -EV theo. This is the part Dawg has never understood.

AND this is exactly while real table game players that win long-term, choose to give up playing rated. So that track record is a little harder to see. It isn't staring the pit folks in the face.

And once casinos really begin to take a look at a player showing consistent wins that defy theo or expectation, do you know what one of the very first counter-measures is....even before they have definitively figured everything out? Yep, it is reducing and cutting off comps and offers, including no mailing players.

What Dawg claims about theo, just like the rest of his story ONLY works if he is a losing player. THAT is and has always been the only way his story and claims fit reality. So like Druff said: His story is fabricated, exaggerated or something (like the losing days) are left out.

So I have to pose the very same question that Singer asks: Why would a guy (dawg) spend 5+ years now, on this story, that every real player knows is not the way things work?

You persist in making a fool of yourself. All you're proving is how little you know about "theo" and how you will go to any lengths to strip mdawg of his proven ability to win with witnesses present. And all while you continue to concoct a false online identity of yourself.

You HAVE to be an alcoholic.

[jdaewoo]

Doesn't this retard have more fake jackpot to win in his basement, next to the exercise equipment he's clearly never used.

[MisterV]

you will go to any lengths to strip mdawg of his proven ability to win with witnesses present.

Rob, ANYBODY, even a clueless dolt-troll like Karen can have one winning session.

Doesn't matter if the witness was the Wiz: the hound had a close to even chance of winning that session, and he won.

Luck happens.

That certainly does nothing to prove his claims of nearly nonstop winning.

But hey, he's KJ's main antagonist and "The enemy of my enemy is my friend."

Got it.

Now, wise up.

[MDawg]

he's KJ's main antagonist and "The enemy of my enemy is my friend."

That don't even make sense. You have much more agin UNKewlJ than agin MDawg.

UNKewlJ lied to your face and made a fool of you.

I'd prefer to have the case exist than to conclude KJ lied to me; not that he owes me the truth, but I really wouldn't like it at all.

[MDawg]

Whenever any of kew's fabricated tales come under scrutiny, you can almost SEE the sweat pouring down his girly-face as he hopes his fake internet life isn't completely crumbling. And of course, where would we be without his multiple, long-winded rambling essays that go on & on, because he just isn't convincing himself that he's satisfactorily making others believe his lies.

It's such a beautiful thing