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    In a nutshell. Slade v. Caesars doesn’t give the state power to enforce arbitrary exclusions as crimes. It supports private property rights, not state criminal authority. This was a civil case, not a criminal one. It cannot be used as criminal precedent. That's what people don't understand. It simply answered, can the CASINOS trespass for any reason. The answer is YES, but that doesn't matter one bit. The casinos can tell me the sun is pink, I don't give a fuck. They're not the ones prosecuting me and enforcing the statute. If there's no penalties, there's no law. Them trying to get the government involved to do their dirty work won't get through in the higher courts. If they want to prosecute, THEY need to sue and good luck with that.

    The question continues to be which I have always said; can the government enforce exclusions that we're done for any reason by a private business or actor? The answer is NO. It would easily breach the 14th amendment. Due process is violated. Equal protection is violated. You can even say the first amendment is violated. Protected non-verbal speech is a protected right. The state cannot criminalize a person for merely thinking strategically during a legal activity.

    Don't believe me? Here you go.

    Texas v. Johnson, 491 U.S. 397 (1989): Nonverbal conduct can be protected speech under the First Amendment.

    Roberts v. United States Jaycees, 468 U.S. 609 (1984): The right to associate and engage in expressive conduct is fundamental.

    Hell, you can even make the argument that NRS 207.200 is void for vagueness. The law’s lack of clarity invites unconstitutional discretion and infringes upon freedom of expression, association, and just operating peacefully inside a gaming establishment.

    How is due process violated? Easy. The government is intervening in private party actions trying to enforce criminal penalties to non-threatening, non-disorderly, and non-disruptive behavior such as returning to a casino open to the public, despite engaging only in legal behavior. There was no criminal act, no cheating, no disorderly conduct, and no disruption. This use of the trespass statute is an abuse of prosecutorial discretion. Here's some case law.

    United States v. Salerno, 481 U.S. 739 (1987): Government action depriving liberty must be justified by a legitimate purpose.

    Washington v. Glucksberg, 521 U.S. 702 (1997): Substantive due process protects individuals from arbitrary and oppressive state actions.

    What about equal protection? This has always been my main argument. How is that violated? Easy. The Equal Protection Clause requires the government to treat similarly situated persons alike. The state wants to criminally prosecute you for using a lawful strategy (card counting), while other gamblers who were not card counting are permitted to remain. This differential treatment is not based on a rational or lawful distinction, which the clause has to be. More case law.

    City of Cleburne v. Cleburne Living Center, 473 U.S. 432 (1985): Arbitrary enforcement based on irrational distinctions violates equal protection.

    Plyler v. Doe, 457 U.S. 202 (1982): State classifications must further a legitimate state interest.

    There is no valid governmental interest served by prosecuting someone for peaceful and lawful mental behavior. Could the CASINOS say they are protecting the businesses of the state and therefore have a public interest in defending it due to the amount of tax money they bring in, which Nevada heavily relies upon? No, but they could try. They could probably get away with that at the lower court level, but not at the high courts. If the government criminally enforces arbitrary bans without due process, you could argue that it's not just economic policy, it’s state-sanctioned arbitrary discrimination.

    Yes, a Nevada court could say protecting business/tax interests meets rational basis under equal protection.

    But no, that doesn’t give the state a free pass to enforce arbitrary exclusions through criminal law unless it’s tied to a legitimate public interest and the person had clear notice and due process.

    Here's the best part. This is for every state, even the redskin nigger faggots. Some you might win at the lower court level, others like Illinois where they've had supreme court 'precedent', which was civil similar to Nevada, you would have to win at the higher courts.

    Thank me later
    Last edited by ZenKinG; 04-18-2025 at 03:14 PM.

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    Sounds like our favorite vulture is drawing too much attention to himself.

    Must be getting angry at all those gooks camping around the slots.

    I get it, those slants are a pain in the ass living the casinos 24/7 looking for mediocre plays.

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    The rational basis review is probably going to be harder than I thought to win. It's so corrupt and Nevada can cry about tax revenue and casinos being a major economic driver of growth in the state, including jobs for its citizens. I guess the next angle would be that the police and casinos have a working interest but that might be hard to prove even though we all know they do.

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    Gosh, looks like Little Boy Blue has been hitting the law books...or googling.

    Whatever dude, you miss the key point: casinos are allowed to bar people for any reason, so long as the person barred is not a member of a protected class, e.g. spooks, 'tards, cripples.

    Clumsy card counters are not a protected class.
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    If this guy zenhomo had any type of life he'd belly-laugh non-stop at whoever was stupid enuf to start a thread like this.

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    Why isn't this retard posting more fake Ultimate X jackpots?

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    Originally Posted by jdaewoo View Post
    Why isn't this retard posting more fake Ultimate X jackpots?
    That retard won't even respond to my troll posts anymore after being constantly spanked since his idiotic Madonna story.

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    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Gosh, looks like Little Boy Blue has been hitting the law books...or googling.

    Whatever dude, you miss the key point: casinos are allowed to bar people for any reason, so long as the person barred is not a member of a protected class, e.g. spooks, 'tards, cripples.

    Clumsy card counters are not a protected class.
    Just curios if any of these that ZenKing mentions at the end of his original post are members of a protected class?

    “redskin nigger faggots”

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    Originally Posted by DGenBen View Post
    Just curios if any of these that ZenKing mentions at the end of his original post are members of a protected class?

    “redskin nigger faggots”
    I believe so.

    They can barred for pretty much ANY reason EXCEPT for being a redskin, a nigger or a faggot.
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    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Originally Posted by DGenBen View Post
    Just curios if any of these that ZenKing mentions at the end of his original post are members of a protected class?

    “redskin nigger faggots”
    I believe so.

    They can barred for pretty much ANY reason EXCEPT for being a redskin, a nigger or a faggot.
    Is redskin still a protected class?

    They have their own casinos & a lot of money now.

    Plus unless they’re in their traditional garb, most of them just look like white people (or beaners) right?

    Elizabeth Warren is one right, but she looks white?

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    I suspect so.

    It could even be that we white devils are a protected class: can a casino bar someone SOLELY because they're white?

    Seems dubious...
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    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    It could even be that we white devils are a protected class: can a casino bar someone SOLELY because they're white?

    Seems dubious...
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