Recent interview with Eliot Jacobson

[accountinquestion]

Not giving an opinion on the validity of global warming or not, but just because something has broad scientific consensus does not necessarily make it true.

These are all examples of things that had broad scientific consensus in the early or mid twentieth century:

Luminous ether, eugenics, homosexuality as a mental disorder, lobotomies, cocaine as a cure all drug, health benefits of cigarettes, Thalidomide for pregnant women, DDT as a miracle chemical, craniometry, steady state universe, safety of lead in pipes gas & paint, etc. etc. etc.

You didn't have 100s or 1000s of people researching it. You didn't have a lot of things. Cavemen believed shit too. Yanno?

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Actually I’m afraid you are incorrect about that.

Just taking for example the first 3 luminous ether, eugenics, & homosexuality as a mental disorder, there were literally thousands of people researching these, writing scientific papers about these, etc. back when these theories were popular.

Even Albert Einstein was very interested in luminous ether early in his career.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luminiferous_aether

Eugenics is likely real. Tons of stuff is hereditary. Homosexuality as a mental disorder sounds like religion or politics to me. I don't even know what Luminous ether is. I do not begin to see a meaningful analogy. There have been countless transnational meetings. When I say 1000s of people I mean in us alone.

Everyone has moved on to Hickam dictum. They can no longer argue global warming isn't real. They can't point to any other real theory as to why so much increase all at once. So this is the new thing. It is a new denialism without an expiration. We will never know because other theories exist. Amazing to me how much people mentally fight to maintain clearly wrong beliefs.

[accountinquestion]

You should see how often the earth has underwent rapid temperature changes. Over what time frame. Then see how the odds are it randomly happened and all these scientists just happened to be lucky. Insane luck.

[mickeycrimm]

You didn't have 100s or 1000s of people researching it. You didn't have a lot of things. Cavemen believed shit too. Yanno?

.

Actually I’m afraid you are incorrect about that.

Just taking for example the first 3 luminous ether, eugenics, & homosexuality as a mental disorder, there were literally thousands of people researching these, writing scientific papers about these, etc. back when these theories were popular.

Even Albert Einstein was very interested in luminous ether early in his career.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luminiferous_aether

Eugenics is likely real. Tons of stuff is hereditary. Homosexuality as a mental disorder sounds like religion or politics to me. I don't even know what Luminous ether is. I do not begin to see a meaningful analogy. There have been countless transnational meetings. When I say 1000s of people I mean in us alone.

Everyone has moved on to Hickam dictum. They can no longer argue global warming isn't real. They can't point to any other real theory as to why so much increase all at once. So this is the new thing. It is a new denialism without an expiration. We will never know because other theories exist. Amazing to me how much people mentally fight to maintain clearly wrong beliefs.

What do I believe about climate change that's wrong?

[accountinquestion]

Actually I’m afraid you are incorrect about that.

Just taking for example the first 3 luminous ether, eugenics, & homosexuality as a mental disorder, there were literally thousands of people researching these, writing scientific papers about these, etc. back when these theories were popular.

Even Albert Einstein was very interested in luminous ether early in his career.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luminiferous_aether

Eugenics is likely real. Tons of stuff is hereditary. Homosexuality as a mental disorder sounds like religion or politics to me. I don't even know what Luminous ether is. I do not begin to see a meaningful analogy. There have been countless transnational meetings. When I say 1000s of people I mean in us alone.

Everyone has moved on to Hickam dictum. They can no longer argue global warming isn't real. They can't point to any other real theory as to why so much increase all at once. So this is the new thing. It is a new denialism without an expiration. We will never know because other theories exist. Amazing to me how much people mentally fight to maintain clearly wrong beliefs.

What do I believe about climate change that's wrong?

I would need a list of all your views.

I notice how everyone seems too scared to figure out the odfs of an occurance of a natural (not man-made) twmperature swing at a specific time.. so we can weigh how likely it is man-made vs natural occurance. Spend a bit of time.

If not, why not? People who apply quantitative reason to aspects of life outside of casinos tend to do far better than those who don't. Give it a whirl please.

[mickeycrimm]

Eugenics is likely real. Tons of stuff is hereditary. Homosexuality as a mental disorder sounds like religion or politics to me. I don't even know what Luminous ether is. I do not begin to see a meaningful analogy. There have been countless transnational meetings. When I say 1000s of people I mean in us alone.

Everyone has moved on to Hickam dictum. They can no longer argue global warming isn't real. They can't point to any other real theory as to why so much increase all at once. So this is the new thing. It is a new denialism without an expiration. We will never know because other theories exist. Amazing to me how much people mentally fight to maintain clearly wrong beliefs.

What do I believe about climate change that's wrong?

I would need a list of all your views.

I notice how everyone seems too scared to figure out the odfs of an occurance of a natural (not man-made) twmperature swing at a specific time.. so we can weigh how likely it is man-made vs natural occurance. Spend a bit of time.

If not, why not? People who apply quantitative reason to aspects of life outside of casinos tend to do far better than those who don't. Give it a whirl please.

I ain't got time for all that horseshit.

[accountinquestion]

Lol redietz. You 2 are so busy.

You read all sorts of fake news meant to placate the smooth brained. Coming up with an estimation off odds this is random occurance and not as predicted isn't rocket science. It is easier than AP math.

[accountinquestion]

"If the fracturing of our once stable climate doesn’t terrify you, then you don’t fully understand it. The reality is that, as far as we know, and in the natural course of events, our world has never — in its entire history — heated up as rapidly as it is doing now. Nor have greenhouse gas levels in the atmosphere ever seen such a precipitous hike.
Think about that for a moment. We’re experiencing, in our lifetimes, a heating episode that is probably unique in the last 4.6 billion years."~Bill McGuire

Yea thinking about it more this is a weird problem as it would seem that maybe there actually is 0 chance of this being random?


Mmmmmm man drill baby drill.

So fucked

[mickeycrimm]

"It's not what you don't know that gets you. It what you know for sure....that is just not true, that gets you." Mark Twain

[accountinquestion]

"It's not what you don't know that gets you. It what you know for sure....that is just not true, that gets you." Mark Twain

How many times does Tucker pause the interview and say real solemnly 'Thats because they hate America' ?

There are lies about everything. The real question is what is true? And that answer is the whopper.

Wow I listen to the first minute of this and you can already see the grift. I wanted to hear about climate change lies but he's literally going on about how fossil fuels are made up. I'd listen to more of it but it starts out with such rubbish. For a low-rent uneducated hobo maybe this sort of thing is compelling but for someone who is sad their country is going to complete shit it is not compelling to listen to.

No fossil fuels aren't a big conspiracy. I'm sure there are lots of questions unanswered and possibly some accepted answers are wrong. Regardless - tying this into climate change denial is some grade-A loser bullshit.

It is crazy how this is the new thing. Question all science because COVID. (And Russians/Chinese want our country to fall apart. Embracing ignorance is a great way to ensure that.)

Tucker the elite, from elite schools, feeding people nonsense and telling them how the other elites are taking over.

[accountinquestion]

So I hadn't seen this guy but once you look into them they're usually pretty well known. You hear how the guys researching climate change always do it for the money but there really isn't that much money behind studying climate change.

Wait! What ? Those solar panel manufacturers that can't stay in business in America - They're the ones funding all those grants of the climate change commies. Who ELSE would fund all these researchers?

It is a rubbish talking point introduced to seed doubt into the issue of climate change.

Then you get a guy like this and he's directly fed by corporate interests on the OTHER side and you'll never hear this same talking point. Even when the talking point fits MUCH better.

https://archive.ph/WYcR7 Just another hack grifter willing to say anything. There will always be people like this.

Then Tucker .. what a fake ass phoney. Most retards who believe him can't see through it. Just like they think Trump is looking out after their interests. You'd never see him have a real debate or put this guy across from even a person semi-competent on these issues.

[Rob.Singer]

So I hadn't seen this guy but once you look into them they're usually pretty well known. You hear how the guys researching climate change always do it for the money but there really isn't that much money behind studying climate change.

Wait! What ? Those solar panel manufacturers that can't stay in business in America - They're the ones funding all those grants of the climate change commies. Who ELSE would fund all these researchers?

It is a rubbish talking point introduced to seed doubt into the issue of climate change.

Then you get a guy like this and he's directly fed by corporate interests on the OTHER side and you'll never hear this same talking point. Even when the talking point fits MUCH better.

https://archive.ph/WYcR7 Just another hack grifter willing to say anything. There will always be people like this.

Then Tucker .. what a fake ass phoney. Most retards who believe him can't see through it. Just like they think Trump is looking out after their interests. You'd never see him have a real debate or put this guy across from even a person semi-competent on these issues.

When Trump won his landslide election victory, all this greenie nonsense lost and common sense will soon take over.

It's fun watching the lefties keep coming apart at the seams with their silly theories and beliefs though. I'm just worried my popcorn will run out!

[jdaewoo]

Maybe the dealership where you take pictures of RVs you could never afford but pretend to own could give you some popcorn. Retard.

[accountinquestion]

So I hadn't seen this guy but once you look into them they're usually pretty well known. You hear how the guys researching climate change always do it for the money but there really isn't that much money behind studying climate change.

Wait! What ? Those solar panel manufacturers that can't stay in business in America - They're the ones funding all those grants of the climate change commies. Who ELSE would fund all these researchers?

It is a rubbish talking point introduced to seed doubt into the issue of climate change.

Then you get a guy like this and he's directly fed by corporate interests on the OTHER side and you'll never hear this same talking point. Even when the talking point fits MUCH better.

https://archive.ph/WYcR7 Just another hack grifter willing to say anything. There will always be people like this.

Then Tucker .. what a fake ass phoney. Most retards who believe him can't see through it. Just like they think Trump is looking out after their interests. You'd never see him have a real debate or put this guy across from even a person semi-competent on these issues.

When Trump won his landslide election victory, all this greenie nonsense lost and common sense will soon take over.

It's fun watching the lefties keep coming apart at the seams with their silly theories and beliefs though. I'm just worried my popcorn will run out!

The best thing about the above post is Singer feels I respect him enough to begin to care what he says in these posts of his. Lol. Not everyone is Kewl.

Happy New Years everyone!

[mickeycrimm]

[Rob.Singer]

Poor climate change/global warming alarmists. Being on the 20 side of yet another 80/20 issue must be terrifying.

[accountinquestion]

Poor climate change/global warming alarmists. Being on the 20 side of yet another 80/20 issue must be terrifying.

I wish I was wrong. More than you - I'm sure.

Which is so telling. Being wrong would make me happy. I sometimes click on articles about technologies that might keep the world from going down the drain but thats about it.

But sure, go listen to some influencer that would be an absolute no one in life if they hadn't found an audience to sell nonsense to.

Just like any other product - people buy what they desire. In the land of media this means that people buy the news/view they want to hear. You can know the level of bullshit pretty easily and the same reason I am not bothering to click on Mickey's link.

If you notice - Mickey doesn't ever want to argue/debate anything. He cries off telling me hes blocked me. What he can do is report things from these grifter-influencers. Whatever. He'll never have to deal with any of this mess and it is easy enough to be a coward of sorts about this stuff.

However - EXCELLENT THREAD. THANK YOU FOR THE BUMP. I need to keep posting things on occasion. Not simple bullshit but real stuff.

[jdaewoo]

When it comes to health and science I have 2 rules.

1) I tend to listen to people with MDs and PhDs
2) I tend not to listen to retards

[mickeycrimm]

Poor climate change/global warming alarmists. Being on the 20 side of yet another 80/20 issue must be terrifying.

I wish I was wrong. More than you - I'm sure.

Which is so telling. Being wrong would make me happy. I sometimes click on articles about technologies that might keep the world from going down the drain but thats about it.

But sure, go listen to some influencer that would be an absolute no one in life if they hadn't found an audience to sell nonsense to.

Just like any other product - people buy what they desire. In the land of media this means that people buy the news/view they want to hear. You can know the level of bullshit pretty easily and the same reason I am not bothering to click on Mickey's link.

If you notice - Mickey doesn't ever want to argue/debate anything. He cries off telling me hes blocked me. What he can do is report things from these grifter-influencers. Whatever. He'll never have to deal with any of this mess and it is easy enough to be a coward of sorts about this stuff.

However - EXCELLENT THREAD. THANK YOU FOR THE BUMP. I need to keep posting things on occasion. Not simple bullshit but real stuff.

The debate is over, said Al Gore, after he said the polar caps would melt by 2012.

[jdaewoo]

Just in case it isn't clear, mickey sure as fuck isn't in category #1.

[mcap]

When it comes to health and science I have 2 rules.

1) I tend to listen to people with MDs and PhDs
2) I tend not to listen to retards

Generally agree with this but feel conflicted when the guy with an MD and PHD sounds like a retard because he has such a thick northeastern accent.