Bob Dietz' Coming Appeararance On PokerFraudAlert Radio

[Kim Lee]

I merely know of Redietz from studying old handicapper records.

redietz mentioned you so that you could share Typsters or Gypsters pages from your collection.

Do you have anything to share in that regard?

No. Maybe I'm a sock puppet, but I'm not your librarian and secretary. BTW, it's "Tipsters or Gypsters."

[Keystone]

I merely know of Redietz from studying old handicapper records.

redietz mentioned you so that you could share Typsters or Gypsters pages from your collection.

Do you have anything to share in that regard?

No. Maybe I'm a sock puppet, but I'm not your librarian and secretary. BTW, it's "Tipsters or Gypsters."

lol

[redietz]

redietz mentioned you so that you could share Typsters or Gypsters pages from your collection.

Do you have anything to share in that regard?

No. Maybe I'm a sock puppet, but I'm not your librarian and secretary. BTW, it's "Tipsters or Gypsters."

lol

LOL. It's kewlJ's Villanova education. What is wrong with him? I mean, really, what is wrong with him?

Kim Lee, I apologize. I mentioned that you had a better "Tipsters or Gypsters?" collection than I had. Evidently the KewlJ(s) -- there are more than one of them -- decided McCusker must be either dishonest or someone I made up or both. I'm sorry for the idiocy.

I will check in every Monday at 11 PM until whatever happens is scheduled. I'm embarrassed that Kim Lee was bothered like this. The kewlJ(s) are blithering idiots. But I'm almost as bad for mentioning that someone on this forum had read McCusker's stuff.

[kewlJ]

LOL. It's kewlJ's Villanova education. What is wrong with him? I mean, really, what is wrong with him?

Kim Lee, I apologize. I mentioned that you had a better "Tipsters or Gypsters?" collection than I had. Evidently the KewlJ(s) -- there are more than one of them -- decided McCusker must be either dishonest or someone I made up or both. I'm sorry for the idiocy.

I will check in every Monday at 11 PM until whatever happens is scheduled. I'm embarrassed that Kim Lee was bothered like this. The kewlJ(s) are blithering idiots. But I'm almost as bad for mentioning that someone on this forum had read McCusker's stuff.

Please quote or link to where I said McCusker was either made up or dishonest, redietz, you lying loser.

On the contrary, I think McCusker was the smart one in all this. He got you suckers to pay $140 each to be rated, so you can use that cherry-picked information to handi-scam other "clients".

I am actually the one that is sorry Kim Lee had to get involved. You talked him up Red, and I simply let him know. I had no idea he would come here and tell us what he thought of you, which was that maybe you were able to break even all those years if you had a wife paying the rent and supporting you....which you did!

You are some 40 year professional sports bettor Redietz.

Red, I am at least glad you didn't try to discredit Kim Lee, like coach belly did, as Kim Lee is beyond contestation as far as gambling/advantage play, as far as I am concerned.

[redietz]

LOL. It's kewlJ's Villanova education. What is wrong with him? I mean, really, what is wrong with him?

Kim Lee, I apologize. I mentioned that you had a better "Tipsters or Gypsters?" collection than I had. Evidently the KewlJ(s) -- there are more than one of them -- decided McCusker must be either dishonest or someone I made up or both. I'm sorry for the idiocy.

I will check in every Monday at 11 PM until whatever happens is scheduled. I'm embarrassed that Kim Lee was bothered like this. The kewlJ(s) are blithering idiots. But I'm almost as bad for mentioning that someone on this forum had read McCusker's stuff.

Please quote or link to where I said McCusker was either made up or dishonest, redietz, you lying loser.

On the contrary, I think McCusker was the smart one in all this. He got you suckers to pay $140 each to be rated, so you can use that cherry-picked information to handi-scam other "clients".

I am actually the one that is sorry Kim Lee had to get involved. You talked him up Red, and I simply let him know. I had no idea he would come here and tell us what he thought of you, which was that maybe you were able to break even all those years if you had a wife paying the rent and supporting you....which you did!

You are some 40 year professional sports bettor Redietz.

Red, I am at least glad you didn't try to discredit Kim Lee, like coach belly did, as Kim Lee is beyond contestation as far as gambling/advantage play, as far as I am concerned.

Try again. I was the top college football profit guy three of the final five years of "Tipsters or Gypsters?" Also made all of the top 10 multi-year college football rankings.

Nice try, though, kewlJ(s). You do realize there are actual copies of these magazines? I guess not.

[kewlJ]

I was the top college football profit guy three of the final five years of "Tipsters or Gypsters?"

Maybe you did well 3 of the final 5 years. Noone is doubting you had some good years that you cherry-pick when selling to your "clients".

Are you just going to ignore the fact that Kim Lee also has all those copies of T & G and after studying them and your results in their entirety, it sound like he doesn't think you did all the well.....as per the maybe you broke about even if your wife was supporting you comment.

Red, YOU did this. You talked shit about this Tipsters & Gypsters from 20, 30, 40 years ago, thinking there was no one to challenge you. You practically invited Kim Lee here. I just passed along the invitation. And he has all but shot holes in your entire claims, which you have been claiming the whole time I have been on this forum.

So don't talk to me about the Kewl(s), which is bullshit. It is just me.

[kewlJ]

Kim Lee, if you are wondering what this is all about, here are the cliff notes.

For a long time on this forum, Redietz, was the only person or member that claimed much with sports betting. He claimed he has been a winning professional sports bettor for 40 years. No one much challenged him. No reason to.

Then a few years ago some of the more traditional AP's here started doing some things with sports betting at an advantage. First Axelwolf, and later myself. I am not sure if mickey crimm is actually doing something with sports betting or just learning everything he can learn. As for me, I have just been doing the very basic bonus whoring of online casinos for about 18 months now. I am not in it for the long run. I know I will wear out my welcome and already have at one book. I currently have 5 that I am playing.

Well Redietz blew a gasket that some of the APs were doing something with sports betting. How dare we. He started attacking all the AP's and advantage play in general, calling us Leonardo de AP and other stupid shit. And along the way, some started to question and challenge his claims. In part because he was saying stupid shit about EV that didn't make sense. And just other comments that just sort of didn't fit.

So that's where we are. Red brought your name up as having a collection of T & G's and I contacted you to let you know he mentioned you twice. I didn't know if you would show up here and if you did, just what you might say. But I am glad you did. Pretty much revealed and confirmed what most of us thought.

[MisterV]

Once again, naysayers say KJ invented Kim Lee as a sock.

Once again I say take it to Dan Druff to sort out...sock or no sock?

FWIW Kim Lee started posting here in 2018, so if he is KJ's sock as claimed then give KJ a golf clap for preparation.

[redietz]

I was the top college football profit guy three of the final five years of "Tipsters or Gypsters?"

Maybe you did well 3 of the final 5 years. Noone is doubting you had some good years that you cherry-pick when selling to your "clients".

Are you just going to ignore the fact that Kim Lee also has all those copies of T & G and after studying them and your results in their entirety, it sound like he doesn't think you did all the well.....as per the maybe you broke about even if your wife was supporting you comment.

Red, YOU did this. You talked shit about this Tipsters & Gypsters from 20, 30, 40 years ago, thinking there was no one to challenge you. You practically invited Kim Lee here. I just passed along the invitation. And he has all but shot holes in your entire claims, which you have been claiming the whole time I have been on this forum.

So don't talk to me about the Kewl(s), which is bullshit. It is just me.

Again, you are incorrect. I was with "Tipsters or Gypsters?" for roughly 10 years. I had two losing seasons, which is exactly on the pace I have reported, which is that I have lost once every six to seven years. I lost my first year with McCusker, after a ridiculous slam-bang record writing a column for a newspaper the year before. McCusker's numbers, and the reason he stopped publishing, were extremely tough on handicappers because he pinned you down to Fri/Sat lines from one location, which resulted in at least a 2% to 3% overall degradation versus actual likely betting records, but he did that so as to provide numbers most of his readership would have used. That's why handicappers migrated to other monitors, such as the Oklahoma City Sports Monitor, where you could call in whenever lines were most favorable. I stayed with McCusker to the end, because I thought the way he did things was the proper way. He editorialized based on what he knew about various handicappers.

Again, the multi-year ratings in the final years of "Tipsters or Gypsters?" summarized things nicely. Kim Lee may have been focused on NFL plays, which I did after the first two or three seasons. But the NFL plays were rated 1 to 5 units, while the college plays were 5 to 20 units, with a unit representing a certain percentage of bankroll, all of which was explained in "Tipsters or Gypsters?" While I did manage an NFL percentage #2 rating one season, it was with a very small number of plays, and I'm sure my NFL percentage dragged my college percentage down if you combined the two. Initially I tried to get away with not doing the NFL, but the client ratios were too daunting. About 10% of bettors were college-only, 30% were NFL-only, and 60% did both.

If you wind up the top college profit guy three times in five years ('86, '89, and '90), and you were the #3 college profit guy back in '83, that's not a bad record for 10 years of doing it. That 1990 "Tipsters or Gypsters?" was the last, by the way.

Kim Lee is no sock. I had some email exchanges with him way back when. I may have actually spoken to him on the phone once, but I'm not sure about that.

[kewlJ]

Once again, naysayers say KJ invented Kim Lee as a sock.

Once again I say take it to Dan Druff to sort out...sock or no sock?

FWIW Kim Lee started posting here in 2018, so if he is KJ's sock as claimed then give KJ a golf clap for preparation.

I hope Druff does weight in on this made up attack of Kim Lee being a sock puppet. As far as I know we are on opposite ends of the country....not that it should matter.

MrV, Kim Lee may have started here in 2018, for a brief period, but he has been an AP and on forums since way before I came along. I first encountered him at Wongs Bj21, and we didn't hit it off. There were some harsh words. I don't even remember what it was about. But later we got a long well and spoke occasionally privately and I learned a lot from him. He did one of the most creative, think-out-side-the-box things with blackjack play that I have ever heard of. THAT is the kind of guy he is. I am lucky to have him as an acquaintance that I very occasionally communicate with.

I haven't seen JBJB post here in some time, but there still should be a couple members here that know Kim Lee from back in the day. Before my day even.

[kewlJ]

If you wind up the top college profit guy three times in five years ('86, '89, and '90), and you were the #3 college profit guy back in '83, that's not a bad record for 10 years of doing it. That 1990 "Tipsters or Gypsters?" was the last, by the way.

1986. 1989. 1990. hun? Good for you Bob Dietz. Do you even know what year it is now? That period was 35-40 years ago and you are STILL trading off it. STILL using that to handi-scam clients.

And that really is the whole point.

[MDawg]

A high pitched soft whine, ever rising in frequency and volume.

[mickeycrimm]

LOL. It's kewlJ's Villanova education. What is wrong with him? I mean, really, what is wrong with him?

Kim Lee, I apologize. I mentioned that you had a better "Tipsters or Gypsters?" collection than I had. Evidently the KewlJ(s) -- there are more than one of them -- decided McCusker must be either dishonest or someone I made up or both. I'm sorry for the idiocy.

I will check in every Monday at 11 PM until whatever happens is scheduled. I'm embarrassed that Kim Lee was bothered like this. The kewlJ(s) are blithering idiots. But I'm almost as bad for mentioning that someone on this forum had read McCusker's stuff.

Please quote or link to where I said McCusker was either made up or dishonest, redietz, you lying loser.

On the contrary, I think McCusker was the smart one in all this. He got you suckers to pay $140 each to be rated, so you can use that cherry-picked information to handi-scam other "clients".

I am actually the one that is sorry Kim Lee had to get involved. You talked him up Red, and I simply let him know. I had no idea he would come here and tell us what he thought of you, which was that maybe you were able to break even all those years if you had a wife paying the rent and supporting you....which you did!

You are some 40 year professional sports bettor Redietz.

Red, I am at least glad you didn't try to discredit Kim Lee, like coach belly did, as Kim Lee is beyond contestation as far as gambling/advantage play, as far as I am concerned.

Try again. I was the top college football profit guy three of the final five years of "Tipsters or Gypsters?" Also made all of the top 10 multi-year college football rankings.

Nice try, though, kewlJ(s). You do realize there are actual copies of these magazines? I guess not.

Who monitored McCuckster?

[redietz]

If you wind up the top college profit guy three times in five years ('86, '89, and '90), and you were the #3 college profit guy back in '83, that's not a bad record for 10 years of doing it. That 1990 "Tipsters or Gypsters?" was the last, by the way.

1986. 1989. 1990. hun? Good for you Bob Dietz. Do you even know what year it is now? That period was 35-40 years ago and you are STILL trading off it. STILL using that to handi-scam clients.

And that really is the whole point.

Best record (or second best) in The Wise Guys for 30 years, which I retired from two years ago. Seems to be more recent, as in two games each week ATS for three decades. That period was, oh, two years ago. Ancient.

Now, since I respond with this every time you say the above, one would think you would get tired of providing me an obvious opening to brag. Makes me think there is more than one KewlJ(s). Or your memory is pitiful, which isn't good for card counters or Villanova students.

[Rob.Singer]

Once again, naysayers say KJ invented Kim Lee as a sock.

Once again I say take it to Dan Druff to sort out...sock or no sock?

FWIW Kim Lee started posting here in 2018, so if he is KJ's sock as claimed then give KJ a golf clap for preparation.

I hope Druff does weight in on this made up attack of Kim Lee being a sock puppet. As far as I know we are on opposite ends of the country....not that it should matter.

MrV, Kim Lee may have started here in 2018, for a brief period, but he has been an AP and on forums since way before I came along. I first encountered him at Wongs Bj21, and we didn't hit it off. There were some harsh words. I don't even remember what it was about. But later we got a long well and spoke occasionally privately and I learned a lot from him. He did one of the most creative, think-out-side-the-box things with blackjack play that I have ever heard of. THAT is the kind of guy he is. I am lucky to have him as an acquaintance that I very occasionally communicate with.

I haven't seen JBJB post here in some time, but there still should be a couple members here that know Kim Lee from back in the day. Before my day even.

WTF?? You hope that Dan weighs in on this?

How many times have you called Druff a liar for "weighing in" on your phony stories, your being some kind of pretend bj pro, and for your boatload of lies upon lies surrounding your make-believe forum existence?

This is more proof that you're a simple, confused liberal who's best trait is lying about yourself and everybody else. Most people laugh at people like that. Around here you're the laughing stock. Just ask all the AP's who've help carve you out a new asshole--only for you to shit yourself again and again.

[kewlJ]

Pretty sure I have never called Dan Druff a liar. Could you post where I did?

[MDawg]

I don't know what this lying "alot" on forums that you have repeated now is about.

If you don't want me here and apparently you don't, having now adopted Mdawgs talking points, I won't post here. That simple.

Is this like the 10th time you've announced you're leaving? Why are you still here?

[Keystone]

I don't know what this lying "alot" on forums that you have repeated now is about.

If you don't want me here and apparently you don't, having now adopted Mdawgs talking points, I won't post here. That simple.

Is this like the 10th time you've announced you're leaving? Why are you still here?

Get some new material already sand maggot

[Rob.Singer]

Pretty sure I have never called Dan Druff a liar. Could you post where I did?

Typical diversion-laced lie. Every time Dan gets forced to straighten your ass out here, it comes with a healthy dose of your lies getting you into trouble....again and again and again.

And you call what you do a life?

[kewlJ]

Pretty sure I have never called Dan Druff a liar. Could you post where I did?

Typical diversion-laced lie. Every time Dan gets forced to straighten your ass out here, it comes with a healthy dose of your lies getting you into trouble....again and again and again.

And you call what you do a life?

Dan Druff stating that I have not been truthful about some thing (Something I have always said btw), is NOT me calling him a liar, Rob. You said I have called Dan Druff a liar and I never have. You seem to be one very confused old geriatric. Is there some medicine you should be taking for that, that you skipped or something?

What I have said, is I don't think Dan Druff, a poker player quite understands the battle that APs that play for a living fight on an almost daily basis with the casinos, and that goes double for table game type AP's. Poker players aren't fighting that battle. I do know Dan Druff does some APing, but just don't know how much. He seemed quite surprised that he was backed off or 86ed from a casino, playing blackjack recently, so like I said, I don't know how familiar he is which this battle and why we HAVE to be less than honest when sharing things on forums.

That said, Dan Druff has stated that he thinks I change details and what I will call not gambling details more than I should or need to. But that really isn't his call. I do what I do, change some details, lie a little about non gambling things to throw people off my tracks. THAT is the only way I feel comfortable sharing anything on these forums.

But again, NEVER have I called Dan Druff a liar, that I recall.