MGM pre-banning suspected money launders, others considered risky for their license

[MDawg]

For someone to money launder successfully at a casino he would need to convert cash to check and there is no way to do that any longer at table games. The casinos will not issue a check for anything over a verified win at the tables.

What these illegal bookies were/are doing makes sense, for them - they are laying bets to further and support their business. They are not simply converting cash to check.

I challenged Wolf to this



and Wizard backed me up that Wolf would lose the bet,



and of course Wolf has been babbling drunkenly incoherently and stupidly ever since about who knows what that is not relevant to the matter. When you're dealing with someone who is drunken, suffers from ADD and has the reading comprehension of a third grader, it's hard to have an on topic conversation.

[The Boz]

Please tell me you didn’t just use the Wizard to back you up AGAIN when you have him tied to a non disclosure agreement. Fucking hilarious, even for you. He has ZERO credibility in any issue involving you and again, you, I and everyone knows it. You neutered the guy, only question is if that worked to your advantage or not. But using him as a reference means nothing.

And if you are going to use the guy as someone with ANY credibility when it comes to you, why not post everything he said. Instead of just using the “As to the one……” quote.

Instead you blast Axel because again, he’s called your bullshit out for years, just like KJ, and look how you handle him. They are drunks, gay hookers, suffer from ADD, broke, living in sewers, etc.

Again, ask Druff who has more credibility, you or Axel in the “gambling” world.

Here’s another way to decide success in America. Do you have more money, assets and a better life than your parents had. In most of our cases, we all can say, YES do. I wonder if you could say that?

I highly doubt you could. Being born into a successful family is great, but without it, I’m thinking you would be the one living in the streets and sewers. Even more interesting is how you are doing compared to your siblings, assuming you have any.

No one has left more details out over the years on forums than you. Maybe it makes you a “liar”, maybe it doesn’t, but no one has been as full of shit as you in regards to the entire story. But if 1/3 of it was true, it would still not explain why us peons and losers bother you so much.

[TheGrimReaper]

I do quote the Great Garnabby in his various forms because he has something to say.

Not this time. The proper anagram solution was too hot for even the Reaper to release. The hottest one, ever. Ha.

[kewlJ]

Please tell me you didn’t just use the Wizard to back you up AGAIN when you have him tied to a non disclosure agreement. Fucking hilarious, even for you. He has ZERO credibility in any issue involving you and again, you, I and everyone knows it. You neutered the guy, only question is if that worked to your advantage or not. But using him as a reference means nothing.

Not only does Wizard have no credibility regarding anything to do with Mdawg after allowing himself to be played by Dawg over and over (probably played and paid), but something like what is being discussed, how to receive a check from the casino, is not in Mike's field of expertise. He is a math guy. That is his expertise. NOT every single thing to do with advantage play or casino procedures. Shackleford isn't the know all about everything involving casinos.

Of the people involved in this discussion, Axelwolf is the expert. If he says he can get a check from casinos in ways that others (including myself) might not be aware of, then he almost assuredly can.

[Rob.Singer]

Like most here, I know nothing about depositing cash at the cashier or whatever. I've never needed casino credit or the help of a host etc. So instead of making guesses I asked the FBI (my nephew) and if anyone really wants to know the ins and outs of casino money laundering, I'd encourage them to ask the agency too.

It is not possible these days to deposit any amount of cash with the casino cage and get a casino check for that amount--or less if you've lost--when you want to withdraw it. I don't know about the wins because I didn't ask that, but I'd expect a check is OK if you want one.

The answers are out there; all you have to do is get up off of your lazy fat asses...and ask.

[MDawg]

He's a freakin' (Ma, I didn't curse, I said freakin') idiot. Anyone who doesn't understand that markers with the signature torn out have obviously already been redeemed is a poseur. Or thinks that casinos are issuing credit lines to people who don't have the funds. Or asking SiegfriedRoy to "Show me the CTR!" to prove a seven figure win.

These things prove that he's both an idiot, and someone who steps in with a big mouth to claim this or that when he has no personal experience whatsoever in the matters at hand. Sound familiar?

This dude is a fraud. He just tries to piece together things that he imagines goes on based on a culmination of bits and pieces of stories he pulls from the Internet. Clown world.

Someone like me who is actually doing it, not just talking about it, cannot respect an idiot like that.

[MDawg]

It is not possible these days to deposit any amount of cash with the casino cage and get a casino check for that amount--or less if you've lost--when you want to withdraw it. I don't know about the wins because I didn't ask that, but I'd expect a check is OK if you want one.

That is pretty much it, notwithstanding soft whine (UNKewlJ) and drunken fidgety babble (A.Wolf).

[AxelWolf]

No one on these forums plays with enough cash to matter to MGM. I’m a credit player and I rarely have to pay the casinos at all so I’d never get into this situation anyway.

As an example even a money in the mattress type like A.Wolf is just a blip doesn’t have enough cash in play to matter plus he’s about to retire to that landlocked desolate lot he bought. Low end has beens aren’t suspected of money laundering.

None of my properties are land locked or in desolate area's. Both places are within less than 30 minutes to towns.

Much of my California property isn't easily accessible with a car unless it's a wheel drive. However, it's off a highway the creek is easy to cross by foot. Also I have access on both sides of the road to other smaller parts of the property. It's also less than 40 minutes to a big city.

My Washington property does have a 30+ acres island that needs a.new bridge since the other one washed out. The main part of the property is accessible just fine
I just moved my 35 foot class A on to my property without issues. I thought there could be since there's some rough areas down the driveway.
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I timed it this afternoon, and it only took 15 minutes to get to the center of town to the grocery store, that's after unlocking, opening, and closing 2 gates.

[AxelWolf]

Please tell me you didn’t just use the Wizard to back you up AGAIN when you have him tied to a non disclosure agreement. Fucking hilarious, even for you. He has ZERO credibility in any issue involving you and again, you, I and everyone knows it. You neutered the guy, only question is if that worked to your advantage or not. But using him as a reference means nothing.

Not only does Wizard have no credibility regarding anything to do with Mdawg after allowing himself to be played by Dawg over and over (probably played and paid), but something like what is being discussed, how to receive a check from the casino, is not in Mike's field of expertise. He is a math guy. That is his expertise. NOT every single thing to do with advantage play or casino procedures. Shackleford isn't the know all about everything involving casinos.

Of the people involved in this discussion, Axelwolf is the expert. If he says he can get a check from casinos in ways that others (including myself) might not be aware of, then he almost assuredly can.

There are usually ways to get around a casino's rules. Perhaps not all the time at all the casinos, but certainly sometimes at some of the casinos.

I tried to make a bet regarding this with Mdawg, but it seems that Mike advised him against it, as Mdawg didn't know all the ways it could be done. After that, Mdawg then made sure to include AT THE CAGE FOR TABLE GAMES, and other aspects. I never said anything about getting checks from THE CAGE or for the tables, I said...from the casino. If someone needs a check related to gambling from a casino for whatever reason, they don't care where it's from. Im sure you could still get a check from the cage after playing table games, even after having lost money.

[AxelWolf]

FYI, I sent recorded proof and documentation(paperwork), where the casino told me they were CTR'ing me, and they said the form they were using was for a CTR(it was a different form, but they said it was for CTR). I even had them clarify with a manager.

[MDawg]

When you're dealing with someone who is drunken, suffers from ADD and has the reading comprehension of a third grader, it's hard to have an on topic conversation.

Nothing was "changed." Rather, A.Wolf has no idea what was even being discussed in the first place. As usual.

The Gossage—Vardebedian Papers

And loves to open his mouth to chime in on things about which he knows little. The dim recollections from yesteryear of a has-been.


How could someone so obviously inept and unlucky

One time I was driving axelwolf across state lines on Christmas Day. We stopped at multiple gas stations along the way, but they were all sold out of gas. We barely reached the final gas station before a huge distance of no gas. Running on fumes. That gas station was closed until 8am. It was around 1am at the time. Both me and the other passenger in the car said that we should just stop here and wait for them to open at 8am so we can buy gas. Axelwolf raised his voice and started yelling at us to drive into the desert with no gas. His reasoning was that there was no phone signal, and because of that we can't stay there. Axelwolf started yelling and told me to drive into the desert. So I did. And we ran out of gas in the middle of the desert. We were forced to pay a tow truck company $300 to deliver 2 gallons of gas to us, and they didn't even show up until 8am.

I believe that 99% of people would have made the right decision in that moment, but axelwolf was not able to.

ever succeed at anything, let alone in getting over on casinos? Evidently, casinos are quite stupid, which should explain to most of those here how it might be possible for someone who actually has brains, to operate at will inside them.

[AxelWolf]

Nothing was "changed." Rather, A.Wolf has no idea what was even being discussed in the first place. As usual.



How could someone so obviously inept and unlucky

One time I was driving axelwolf across state lines on Christmas Day. We stopped at multiple gas stations along the way, but they were all sold out of gas. We barely reached the final gas station before a huge distance of no gas. Running on fumes. That gas station was closed until 8am. It was around 1am at the time. Both me and the other passenger in the car said that we should just stop here and wait for them to open at 8am so we can buy gas. Axelwolf raised his voice and started yelling at us to drive into the desert with no gas. His reasoning was that there was no phone signal, and because of that we can't stay there. Axelwolf started yelling and told me to drive into the desert. So I did. And we ran out of gas in the middle of the desert. We were forced to pay a tow truck company $300 to deliver 2 gallons of gas to us, and they didn't even show up until 8am.

I believe that 99% of people would have made the right decision in that moment, but axelwolf was not able to.

ever succeed at anything, let alone in getting over on casinos? Evidently, casinos are quite stupid, which should explain to most of those here how it might be possible for someone who actually has brains, to operate at will inside them.

Where are his witnesses? None, no one, and yet I have people who say differently.

He was going to run out of gas, regardless, we were between two gas stations. I said go forward, not backwards, just to run out of gas anyway, and then have to go back forward. We were never going to make it to any gas station. I wasn't the one who didn't get gas in the first place; it wasn't my car, and I had no clue he was low until it was too late. Of course, I was the one to kept us from freezing by starting a fire in the desert, and I was the one who got us out of the situation.

You forget the part where I thought him a lot and helped him. You forget the part where he owed me and others money and ghosted EVRYONE for over a year including disappearing from the BJ discord and then came back and started talking shit and making excuses why he didn't pay the money he owed for a year or so.

[MDawg]

Nothing was "changed." Rather, A.Wolf has no idea what was even being discussed in the first place. As usual.



How could someone so obviously inept and unlucky

One time I was driving axelwolf across state lines on Christmas Day. We stopped at multiple gas stations along the way, but they were all sold out of gas. We barely reached the final gas station before a huge distance of no gas. Running on fumes. That gas station was closed until 8am. It was around 1am at the time. Both me and the other passenger in the car said that we should just stop here and wait for them to open at 8am so we can buy gas. Axelwolf raised his voice and started yelling at us to drive into the desert with no gas. His reasoning was that there was no phone signal, and because of that we can't stay there. Axelwolf started yelling and told me to drive into the desert. So I did. And we ran out of gas in the middle of the desert. We were forced to pay a tow truck company $300 to deliver 2 gallons of gas to us, and they didn't even show up until 8am.

I believe that 99% of people would have made the right decision in that moment, but axelwolf was not able to.

ever succeed at anything, let alone in getting over on casinos? Evidently, casinos are quite stupid, which should explain to most of those here how it might be possible for someone who actually has brains, to operate at will inside them.

Where are his witnesses? None, no one, and yet I have people who say differently.

He was going to run out of gas, regardless, we were between two gas stations. I said go forward, not backwards, just to run out of gas anyway, and then have to go back forward. We were never going to make it to any gas station. I wasn't the one who didn't get gas in the first place; it wasn't my car, and I had no clue he was low until it was too late. Of course, I was the one to kept us from freezing by starting a fire in the desert, and I was the one who got us out of the situation.

You forget the part where I thought him a lot and helped him. You forget the part where he owed me and others money and ghosted EVRYONE for over a year including disappearing from the BJ discord and then came back and started talking shit and making excuses why he didn't pay the money he owed for a year or so.

Granted there are two sides to every story but you don't seem to be denying the basic facts of his desert narrative.

And you'll note that I at least occasionally respond to you directly versus the way I just turn on the AI quote machine when it comes to UNKewLyingJ, so it means that I recognize that you have accomplished some things and grant you that respect. But your foible is that you jump in to try to appear the expert on most anything (very UNKewl of you), and often without even reading closely enough whatever is being discussed to know what the actual issue is.

[mickeycrimm]

Havent done it in a few years but i never had a problem getting a check for a handpay.

[MDawg]

And? So?

Wolf is talking about not even playing not even winning and depositing cash in a casino and having them issue a check for the cash. He's an idiot if he thinks any NV casino today would do that.

These two sentences here:

You can get checks issued from casinos without losing or winning a penny.

You can get a check issued in an amount for MORE than you actually won.

tell me he hasn't received a check from any brick and mortar casino in at least a decade, and probably two.

Today, casino Compliance will not issue a check for other than a verified win, and only up to that exact amount of the verified win.

All the checks I receive for some time now include in the memo verbiage to this effect



In this particular situation, I kept depositing my winning chips until, end of trip, I withdrew them all via check. That particular winning check was mid six figures, and dates from this year - I have many such checks from this year alone, and one or more seven figure ones from this year. I can and have shown Wizard close to seven figures in winning checks in just a six month or so period a few or so years ago, and he posted about some of these online at WOV, verifying having seen them, and would have kept doing so until one or more jealous WOV members cried to him about that practice and asked him to stop with the verifications.

As a matter of fact, the year he was verifying all those wins was the same year I made the "about even" accommodation post to get my Adventures of MDawg thread unhidden, so there you have it, the impossibility of that I could have other than won big that year.

Concurrent with all those winning checks I was providing actual logged in video of my player accounts corroborating the year end wins.

(And if cash was placed on deposit to make the win happen, the check cut will not include a penny of that cash.)

As a credit player, every check I get is only for a verified win. Period. Since no cash is involved.


Wolf just has some dim recollections of yesteryear when he spouts on about any of this. I know what is going on today.

[MisterV]

And you'll note that I at least occasionally respond to you directly versus the way I just turn on the AI quote machine when it comes to UNKewLyingJ,

This is freakin' rich: the hound uses AI to flame KJ.

Seems kinda...lame, and should Dan Druff allow AI generated posts from anybody?

Could set a very bad precedent to let the AI generated posts bloom and blossom.

[MDawg]

As opposed to...

KJ keeps trying to manually rephrase the same old nervous essays over and over. Can you imagine how much time and angst that takes?

[kewlJ]

verified chip win: Getting a check, even one that says 'verified win" does NOT prove the results that Mdawg tries to make it look like it proves.

day 1: Player buys in for 10K and loses 10k.

day 2: Player buys in for 10k and loses 10k.

day 3: Player buys in for 10k, wins 14k. he requests a check for that win and the check says "verified win". Player (dawg) than posts a picture of the check claiming he won 14k. But he really lost 6k for the entirety of his 3 days play. he just neglected to mention the other 2 losing days.

Just a scam Mdawg is using to mislead (and try to impress) people on gambling forums. And it doesn't even have to be 3 separate days. It can be the same day, 3 separate sessions. Please note in my signature where Mr. Dan Druff says "or largely incomplete". It is just a dawg scam, for whatever weird reason. And that reason likely is that he is just an insecure narcissist trying to impress strangers on the internet.

[MDawg]

Yer not only an inveterate, compulsive, pathological liar, yer an imbecile as well, hey hey.

[kewlJ]

And dawg does the same thing with pictures of chips & cash. Pictures of chips and cash, do not prove you won anything. It is about as meaningful as climbing behind the steering wheel of an RV and claiming you own it.

There guys, are just so fucking desperate to impress a bunch of strangers on a gambling internet forum. Fucking retarded!

The people sharing real gambling experiences on this forum are APs: mickeycrimm, Axelwolf, myself, Zenking (despite that some here seem to despise him) and Dan Druff, although Druff sometimes leaves parts of the story out, like his recent blackjack backoff story. (and he gets upset when others do that...)

The non-AP/recreational players that share real gambling experiences are MrV, and believe it or not Tasha (at least some of her stories).

There may be other actual APs on this forum, but they don't share shit. And the majority of the rest of the people are just trolling and/or making up completely ridiculous shit, like Singer, Dawg, it now appears Redietz, that Canadian dude, Soxfan.

It is just ridiculous. How did we get so many complete fucktards trying to impress complete strangers on the internet. These people must have one hell of a life to be doing this and to think that real players don't know the difference.

What a fucking forum