VINDICATION for KJ

[jdog]

2) Fuck a client

That might not even do it in Florida. Didn't Casey Anthony's attorney start boning her?

[AxelWolf]

2) Fuck a client

As if that was ever going to be a problem in the first place. Unless of course, it was going to be some skanky ass hooker.

[terapinedtheskeptic]

Clearly a man who made his living by physical work

Clearly a man that constantly lies
This is exactly why I don't believe your gambling stories
you constantly lie , especially about me

Things I trust more then Mdawg
Flint MI tap water
Gas station sushi
Bill Cosby as the bartender
Taco Bell bathrooms
Tom Brady putting air in my tires
A North Korean trial
A shot from Dr Kevorkian
A Casey Anthony daycare
A fart when I have diarrhea
KewlJ
Redietz
Mister V
Jdaewoo
AxelWolf
Boz
Keystone
jdog
soxfan
Dan Druff

Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

[kewlJ]

I am going to bounce way back to the beginning subject of this thread, at the beginning of the week, because the more I learn the more it wreaks of Wizards protecting Madag bullshit.

1) in response to someone saying I was unknown to any AP's, HH casually stated that he had met me years ago and seen me several times since.

2) HH was immediately contacted by private message by Mdawg wanting information on me that he could further use to dox and identify me as he had done before.

3) HH let this be known without mentioning exactly who it was that contacted him (although everyone guessed

4) HH was suspended for 3 days.

Now 2 things about this wreak. 1) It is supposed to be a major violation to be seeking personal information from members about any member of the forum. We are not just talking Mike's silly 3 day suspension type violation, people have been banned for this. AND this protection is and has in the past been extended to former members, like myself. Sidthesquid account was banned for doing the same thing. Shackleford completely overlooked this precedent and suspended HH instead of taking some sort of action again Mdawg the person digging for information.

2). HH is a longtime member of WoV. A somewhat known longtime known AP. Based on what circles I know know he ran in and what other AP's he worked with, Shackleford should know who HH is, a legitimate AP.

And yet Shackleford once again threw all that out, his own rules, his previous precedent to once again protect Mdawg. WTF Mike? When does this shit end?

[MisterV]

I recall that after my divorce I had the hots for a big-titted blonde I represented; some time after the case concluded I asked her out; we were "an item" for awhile.

Point is: the bar could care less if a lawyer fucks a client, so long as it happens after the representation of the client ends.

I've known attorneys who wind up marrying their former client, or even their secretary: as I oft say: "Familiarity breeds attempt."

[Tasha]

I recall that after my divorce I had the hots for a big-titted blonde I represented; some time after the case concluded I asked her out; we were "an item" for awhile.

Point is: the bar could care less if a lawyer fucks a client, so long as it happens after the representation of the client ends.

I've known attorneys who wind up marrying their former client, or even their secretary: as I oft say: "Familiarity breeds attempt."

My Fictional Axl Rose dated his Client while he was his Client's Lawyer and the Prosecutor and the other Lawyer protested this, stating that it's a conflict of interest. The Judge allowed Axl to STILL be dating his Client. I looked up,"Can a Lawyer date his Client?" And got the response saying something like,"A Lawyer dating his Client while actively representing said Client is a conflict of interest, but if the relationship happens AFTER the Lawyer is no longer representing the Client, that is perfectly acceptable. " But I guess of the Judge allows a Lawyer to be dating his Client, that would be also acceptable since the Judge allowed it.

[The Boz]

I recall that after my divorce I had the hots for a big-titted blonde I represented; some time after the case concluded I asked her out; we were "an item" for awhile.

Point is: the bar could care less if a lawyer fucks a client, so long as it happens after the representation of the client ends.

I've known attorneys who wind up marrying their former client, or even their secretary: as I oft say: "Familiarity breeds attempt."

My Fictional Axl Rose dated his Client while he was his Client's Lawyer and the Prosecutor and the other Lawyer protested this, stating that it's a conflict of interest. The Judge allowed Axl to STILL be dating his Client. I looked up,"Can a Lawyer date his Client?" And got the response saying something like,"A Lawyer dating his Client while actively representing said Client is a conflict of interest, but if the relationship happens AFTER the Lawyer is no longer representing the Client, that is perfectly acceptable. " But I guess of the Judge allows a Lawyer to be dating his Client, that would be also acceptable since the Judge allowed it.

But none of your fictional stories are as interesting as your true life stories over the years. The stories of you shitting on the floor of chicken joints is the stuff of legends.

[pinchingyourballs]

I recall that after my divorce I had the hots for a big-titted blonde I represented; some time after the case concluded I asked her out; we were "an item" for awhile.

Point is: the bar could care less if a lawyer fucks a client, so long as it happens after the representation of the client ends.

I've known attorneys who wind up marrying their former client, or even their secretary: as I oft say: "Familiarity breeds attempt."

My Fictional Axl Rose dated his Client while he was his Client's Lawyer and the Prosecutor and the other Lawyer protested this, stating that it's a conflict of interest. The Judge allowed Axl to STILL be dating his Client. I looked up,"Can a Lawyer date his Client?" And got the response saying something like,"A Lawyer dating his Client while actively representing said Client is a conflict of interest, but if the relationship happens AFTER the Lawyer is no longer representing the Client, that is perfectly acceptable. " But I guess of the Judge allows a Lawyer to be dating his Client, that would be also acceptable since the Judge allowed it.

Thank you for this information Tasha. I have some additional legal questions and I was wondering if I might find answers to them in your collected fictional works.

Can a judge play a game on his phone behind the bench as long as the sound is off and nobody sees it? What about a game of checkers with a midget who is carefully concealed? Can lawyers bring an opaque water bottle filled with half Gatorade half hard lemonade? If the client is a pre-op tranny who has stuffed his bra with a pair of honeydew melons and he gets hungry during his trial, can he sample the fruits?

[MisterV]

I guess of the Judge allows a Lawyer to be dating his Client, that would be also acceptable since the Judge allowed it.

You guessed wrong; local / county judge's lack that power.

see Nevada's Rules of Professional Responsibility:

"1.8 Rule  .Conflict of Interest: Current Clients: Specific Rules.

A lawyer shall not have sexual relations with  (j) a client unless a consensual sexual relationship existed between them when the client-lawyer relationship commenced. This paragraph does not apply when the client is an organization."

There is NO exception for "unless a local / county judge allows it."

Regardless: lawyers do it in their briefs.

[Tasha]

I guess of the Judge allows a Lawyer to be dating his Client, that would be also acceptable since the Judge allowed it.

You guessed wrong; local / county judge's lack that power.

see Nevada's Rules of Professional Responsibility:

"1.8 Rule  .Conflict of Interest: Current Clients: Specific Rules.

A lawyer shall not have sexual relations with  (j) a client unless a consensual sexual relationship existed between them when the client-lawyer relationship commenced. This paragraph does not apply when the client is an organization."

There is NO exception for "unless a local / county judge allows it."

Regardless: lawyers do it in their briefs.

My Fictional Axl Rose and his Client weren't having SEXUAL relations, just cuddling, hugging, and kissing.

[Kim Lee]

if kewlJ wanted to learn how to become a profitable BJ player, it wouldn't have been hard for him to learn.

At the same time, kewlJ has also been caught in a lot of lies over time ... it is unclear if he really makes much (or anything) playing blackjack these days

him possibly being Asian ... has no bearing on anything else.

I don't know the history here, except that KewlJ understandable distorted to camouflage his identity. I would be more skeptical he claimed annual income of $100k+ at blackjack, massive comps, or claims to be a high-rolling winner without facing countermeasures. In any case, I don't think anybody makes much playing blackjack these days.

Being Asian allows you to play blackjack with less heat. That's why the MIT team was largely Asian. The team leader John Chang does not look like actor Kevin Spacey in the movie "21".

KewlJ has made twice as many posts as Dan Druff. What does that tell us about real pros?

[MDawg]

These sock puppets appear occasionally when UNKewlJ’s soft whine rises to its most hysterical pitches. But none have anything new to add.

At some point you will realize you're dealing with a compulsive liar.

[jdaewoo]

Why isn't this retard out winning 80% of his tie bets?

[MisterV]

These sock puppets appear occasionally when UNKewlJ’s soft whine rises to its most hysterical pitches. But none have anything new to add.

Oh, you are accusing Kim Lee of being KJ's sock, are you?

As I pointed out previously, Kim Lee joined in 2018; what, was KJ planning ahead?

Bwa ha ha ha

Just ask Dan if Kim Lee is a sock, he can cut through this shit.

But you know the truth, and it irks you that Kim Lee is posting as he does.

Suck it up,

[kewlJ]

I would prefer that Dan Druff confirm that Kim Lee is not a sock puppet of me, because these accusations are not fair to Kim Lee.

But in the absence of that, Dan Druff has confirmed that I live and post from Las Vegas. And Redeitz called Kim Lee and spoke to him on the phone and can confirm that he lives and works on the east coast as a professor at an east coast university. Not surprising Mr. No Integrity Sports Tout is not speaking up.

[coach belly]

Kim Lee joined in 2018; what, was KJ planning ahead?

tewlj joined in 2016, so why couldn't he have created a sock puppet in 2018?

When did he create his spiderman sock?

Have you reviewed Kum Pee's posting history?...

18 posts in one month back in 2018, 2 posts in two days in 2020, and then a recent flurry of 14 posts last week week after tewlj conjured him up again.

Very suspicious.

[redietz]

I would prefer that Dan Druff confirm that Kim Lee is not a sock puppet of me, because these accusations are not fair to Kim Lee.

But in the absence of that, Dan Druff has confirmed that I live and post from Las Vegas. And Redeitz called Kim Lee and spoke to him on the phone and can confirm that he lives and works on the east coast as a professor at an east coast university. Not surprising Mr. No Integrity Sports Tout is not speaking up.

You know, you are truly a fucking idiot.

If you read what I posted, you'd know I said Kim Lee is not a sock of yours. What, I'm supposed to obsess like a certain alleged blackjack player and respond to every single post? I don't read 90% of this stuff.

Now I'm supposed to backtrack and cite thread and post where I said that? You know what? I'll do that just to point out what a lying, bullshitting scumbag you are.

Stay tuned.

[kewlJ]

Over the years, I have networked and communicated privately with a number blackjack advantage players, both professional and recreational. Some of them pretty well known. A few came to this forum, not because I asked them to, but because I was a member here. None lasted very long because of what this forum is.

In Recent years, when one of these dusts up occur, one of these well known blackjack AP will ask me privately, if I want him to poke his head in here and confirm this or that. I always say "don't bother, they will refuse to believe you anyway".

Well I didn't ask Kim Lee to come here and say anything. Redietz is the one that basically asked Kim Lee to verify something. I just passed that request along to Kim Lee. Just turns out Kim Lee verified about the opposite of what Redietz was hoping. And what Kim Lee stated was not an opinion based on nothing. Kim Lee studied the very publications from 30-40 years ago that redietz talked up, AND spoke directly to Redietz on the phone and concluded that for the most part Red's claims of 40 years professional sports bettor was baloney.

Again, that is not on me, I didn't ask him to do that. Redietz asked him to do that. When I informed Kim Lee that Redietz had mentioned him twice, for all I know Kim Lee could have showed up here and confirmed Red was a real professional sports bettor for 40 years.

So stop with this witch hunt of Kim Lee being a sock puppet. Kim Lee is a long time, successful advantage player, who has been involved in many aspects of advantage play and really unbeknowns to me, that included sports betting from years ago.

[kewlJ]

I would prefer that Dan Druff confirm that Kim Lee is not a sock puppet of me, because these accusations are not fair to Kim Lee.

But in the absence of that, Dan Druff has confirmed that I live and post from Las Vegas. And Redeitz called Kim Lee and spoke to him on the phone and can confirm that he lives and works on the east coast as a professor at an east coast university. Not surprising Mr. No Integrity Sports Tout is not speaking up.

You know, you are truly a fucking idiot.

If you read what I posted, you'd know I said Kim Lee is not a sock of yours. What, I'm supposed to obsess like a certain alleged blackjack player and respond to every single post? I don't read 90% of this stuff.

Now I'm supposed to backtrack and cite thread and post where I said that? You know what? I'll do that just to point out what a lying, bullshitting scumbag you are.

Stay tuned.

Yes, you should repeat it. If someone is stating a lie about and innocent person just to slander then to attempt to discredit them and you know it is a lie, you should speak up each and every time. The repeating of this shit is what these people, especially your buddy Mdog do. The theory is if you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes truth (or accepted as truth).

You may not like what Kim Lee concluded, but he doesn't deserve this witch hunt. I am sure he can handle it, but he doesn't deserve it. And if you know the truth because you have spoken with him, you should speak up each and every time these fucktards play their troll game.

[coach belly]

Kim Lee studied the very publications from 30-40 years ago that redietz talked up, AND spoke directly to Redietz on the phone and concluded that for the most part Red's claims of 40 years professional sports bettor was baloney.

Kim Lee is a long time, successful advantage player, who has been involved in many aspects of advantage play and really unbeknowns to me, that included sports betting from years ago.

Unbeknowns...yes.

Your claims above are entirely fabricated, purely a figment of your imagination.

There is absolutely no corroboration to substantiate anything that you wrote.

Of course, nobody is required or expected to prove anything, including stories they make up about their sock puppets, or whoever or whatever else they decide to write about.