Bob Dietz' Coming Appeararance On PokerFraudAlert Radio

[AxelWolf]

I've never claimed to be a master of all things; you're making shit up. Please show one post where I have indicated that? I can show posts right indicated the opposite. I would say I'm well versed in many areas of Advantage Play, and I've done many things that others haven't until after I had. I would say I'm pretty good at thinking outside the box and figuring out the best angles and angle shooting to make money from the casinos.

I'm sure many on this forum know much more about sports than I do. I'm sure there are new guys that come along that know more about sports than all of us do, including myself. I don't claim to be a Sports Guru, but I certainly know enough to spot bullshit when I see it. And I certainly know who knows what the fuck they're talking about.

Anytime I've ever mentioned your name to anyone nobody knows who the fuck you are unless they've been around on the forums. And again, I'm not a journalist, reporter, investigator or a professional fucking interviewer.

In a post, I asked you about me talking to Anthony Curtis regarding you, and you ignored it.

You can call me Anonymous all you want, but hundreds of people and the Gaming and Advantage Play Community know who I am and my real name.
And that's not just including other Unknown People. I have played with, partnered with, competed with, hung out with, been to parties with, worked with, done business with, and shared information with many well-known people in the gaming Advantage play community.

If you are neither a "journalist, reporter, investigator, or professional fucking interviewer," why would you want to interview me? What qualifies you? It's stupid. Step aside.

And why in God's name would I want to be interviewed by you? I mean, this is comical. Just step aside. Or don't. I'm going to call James Dennison tomorrow and see if he wants to film the interview live for entertainment value. It'll be good feedback for me and, if he can do it, I'm sure it'll be a fine test of my ability to think on my feet and be disciplined.

I have no idea about you "talking to Anthony Curtis" or Mr. Flowers or anyone. But it's not as if "Anthony Curtis" was quick to get into the whole sports betting gestalt or really had much (if any) interaction with sports bettors the first five to 10 years of the LVA. In fact, I was always surprised that the Advisor dragged its feet as long as it did, and then assembled a roster of people who were more advantage players than sports experts. I guess he assembled who he could, but I thought it was really tardy and he missed an opportunity.

Send along your email to integritysports@aol.com. Thanks.

It's pretty clear ditz is going to turn this pokerfraudalert appearance into a farce. Count me out. There's better shit on Netflix.

That's what he wants; he either wants us to back out or find reasons to get rid of any detractors. He wants a stage for himself so we can control the narrative and make sure it's a puff piece.

[MisterV]

Just have Dan interview him without call ins or even a script.

If redietz can pull it off without stepping all over himself then more power to him, it'll be a feather in his cap.

But if he flounders the flaming here will never end.

Hello danger of NOT being anonymous yet being arrogant, confrontational and dismissive.

[redietz]

Just have Dan interview him without call ins or even a script.

If redietz can pull it off without stepping all over himself then more power to him, it'll be a feather in his cap.

But if he flounders the flaming here will never end.

Hello danger of NOT being anonymous yet being arrogant, confrontational and dismissive.

You mean like 99% of all normal interviews? Heaven forbid!

You have to realize, V, that at no point prior to this last couple-day go-round was Axelwolf interviewing me ever mentioned. He thought he'd surprise me, I guess, and I'd back out. LOL. Sorry, we "arrogant, confrontational" folks (I don't agree with "dismissive" at all) figure -- what the hell? This will be a good test. But it is required that he read some stuff prior to the interview because he doesn't know me from Adam, and he doesn't know sports handicapping from garbage collecting. Reading a thousand words isn't likely to tax anyone's neurons, even those damaged by various and sundry beverages.

Did you say "a script?" I haven't seen a script. Can you imagine if one side prompted some call-ins without the "other side" prompting call-ins?

It's okay, V. I have some familiarity with the phrase "ambush interview." Basically, I take the gig with nothing to gain, but you know what? Never let it be said the founder of Integrity Sports hid behind a need for a script or a need to seed the call-ins. As an old journalism dude, that's not the way I do things. I do them with integrity (see what I did there?).

And finally, Axelwolf, I never received your email, so what the hell? Todd can confirm that. I give him full permission to read all my inbox stuff. I can't be checking this God-forsaken swampland every day, so just send the email to integritysport@aol.com.

P.S. V, you read the small bio story in the Driving Southern book. I think anyone interviewing me should probably read it. Provides color and background. I mean, if he asks how I got started doing this, that book provides half of the story. Not sure if Todd has a copy or not. I know I gave one to Munchkin. I guess if Axelwolf is paranoid about his address, I could buy him an online copy and send it to his email or something.

[coach belly]

Axelwolf, I never received your email, so what the hell? Todd can confirm that. I give him full permission to read all my inbox stuff.

Well now this is an opportunity for the admin to objectively weigh in on who is telling the truth, without much effort.

Maybe the message will be in AW's sent folder, but not in redietz's inbox.

[kewlJ]

You have to realize, V, that at no point prior to this last couple-day go-round was Axelwolf interviewing me ever mentioned. .

Really? Never mentioned, hum? Try page 1 of this very thread 51 days ago when the thread was started. Read page 1...that's all. Axelwolf was quite clear that he would like to ask some questions because he had concerns about people like Todd who run podcasts asking the tough questions. He mentioned it multiple times right there on page 1 and probably dozens of times since.

But really it is a moot point now. You have been asked the tough questions, about EV, about Kelly wagering, about why you needed "investors" or "clients" if you could really hit 56% and you haven't been able to answer a single question. Hell you haven't even answered the simplest of questions what you made (ballpark) per year throughout the incredible 40+ (or is it 50+ now) sports betting career?

You don't think that is a question that should be asked by any interviewer of a guy claiming to be one of the best professional sports bettor in the last 40 years? "Ok what kind of money did you make".

Give me a fucking break dude. You can't answer ANY of these pertinent questions even having had the time to look them up.

[AxelWolf]

Axelwolf, I never received your email, so what the hell? Todd can confirm that. I give him full permission to read all my inbox stuff.

Well now this is an opportunity for the admin to objectively weigh in on who is telling the truth, without much effort.

Maybe the message will be in AW's sent folder, but not in redietz's inbox.

I can guarantee you it's in my sent folder and has been since yesterday, 08:19 AM. I somehow replied to our conversation and it was sent to myself.

[Kim Lee]

I don't want this comment to get buried in the 184-page "Professional Sportsbetting" thread. There have been tens of thousands of pro pokers players in history, thousands of bookies, and hundreds of of card counters. But there have been very few pro sports bettors or horse bettors.

Who are the most famous "handicappers" in Las Vegas history? Unquestionable Jimmy "The Greek" Snyder. But he was a public relations media personality. Amarillo Slim's book explains how he was an incompetent bookmaking partner and losing bettor. Jimmy got fired for a racist comment and ended up broke.

Retired encyclopedia salesman Mr. America Bob McCune ran Las Vegas handicapping seminars for a couple decades. He told me that he lived off Social Security and bet $100 per game.

Lem Banker was known as a pro sports bettor and had a column in the Las Vegas Review Journal that successfully predicted many Superbowls. His house was recently listed for $680k. https://businesspress.vegas/real-est...or-680k-26170/. "In his later years, Banker still bet on sports from the comfort of his home, only for hundreds of dollars rather than tens of thousands."
https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports...at-93-2187275/

Frank "Lefty" Rosenthal was a mob bookmaker who could not get a casino license due to convictions related to fixing college basketball games. He ran a huge casino skimming scheme, ended up barred in the Black Book, and narrowly avoided an assassination. He is mostly famous for the fictionalized movie "Casino".

Andrew Beyer was a famous horse handicapper. He pioneered a data approach. But he turned away from betting and wrote books and columns.

Successful sports and horse bettors use large quantitative models and/or have access to off-market lines. This includes Billy Walters, Zeljko Ranogajec, David Walsh, and their associates. You have a better chance of starting in the N.B.A. than being like these guys, because there are far few pro sports bettors than major league athletes. Most of the people in this thread do not know anybody who regularly makes six-figures from betting sports or horses.

[MDawg]

Nothing you have to say may overcome your association with a known sociopathic liar.

KewlJ, you have repeatedly lied on this and other forums. You have admitted to many of these lies.

kewlJ has also been caught in a lot of lies over time, both on this forum and elsewhere. Therefore, it is unclear if he really makes much (or anything) playing blackjack these days.

kewlJ is basically the Boy Who Cried Wolf of these AP forums. He has lied so many times that it's impossible to believe any stories he tells.

Your judgment stinks.

[jdaewoo]

Why isn't this retard out winning 80% of his tie bets?

[Don Perignom]

I don't want this comment to get buried in the 184-page "Professional Sportsbetting" thread. There have been tens of thousands of pro pokers players in history, thousands of bookies, and hundreds of of card counters. But there have been very few pro sports bettors or horse bettors.

Successful sports and horse bettors use large quantitative models and/or have access to off-market lines. This includes Billy Walters, Zeljko Ranogajec, David Walsh, and their associates. You have a better chance of starting in the N.B.A. than being like these guys, because there are far few pro sports bettors than major league athletes. Most of the people in this thread do not know anybody who regularly makes six-figures from betting sports or horses.

I don't know what your point is, but that's a weird take.

Most APs I know are opportunistic. They seek the easiest money wherever it's available. So they bet sports when it's popular and accessible, as it has been for the last 5+ years. When sports inevitably dials down, they'll shift emphasis to something else.

[Kim Lee]

But there have been very few pro sports bettors or horse bettors.

There is also surprisingly little proprietary trading on Wall Street. Most of those broker-dealers make their money off of fees and commissions. Their trading desks answer customer calls and fill orders. It is not hard to make money by filling customer orders with a small spread. They are just high-class bookies. Most traders are like clerks managing inventory, not speculative investors. There are very few proprietary trading desks.

The whole asset management industry, including hedge funds, is full of marketing.

Once in the dear dead days beyond recall, an out-of-town visitor was being shown the wonders of the New York financial district. When the party arrived at the battery, one of his guides indicated some handsome ships riding at anchor. He said, "Look, those are the bankers and brokers yachts." "Where are the customers yachts?" asked the naïve visitor.

[AxelWolf]

or have access to off-market lines.

As did Lem Banker.

How many games got added to someone's winning record after they got down for a small amount at one place on a number impossible for everyone else to get?
That shit adds up, espesilly on key numbers.

[AxelWolf]

Regarding the great Lem banker. Richard Rander AKA Jai alai took over for Lem, giving out picks for whatver publications/TV.

Jai alai was indeed a very good guru sports bettor. Very smart successful Advantage Players invested with him and he made 100's of thousands, only to fuck them out of it.

Others made a lot of money off Jai alai's picks, but they knew not to give the guy any money.

I warned people about him, but they didn't listen.

I was asked to listen to the facts and help negotiate a settlement between Jai alai and another party(we will call him Joe) Jai alai said he knew I was biased against him personally, but he knew I would be fair based on the facts alone. Jai alai's only defence was the fact that he was certain that Joe would have fucked him so he fucked Joe first and kept the money. LOL. Obviously, I sided with Joe, and as predicted, Jai alai never paid.

Fun Fact: Early on, Jai alai wanted me to lie for him regarding his poker winning sessions so he could get himself into some record books. It's amazing the lengths people will go to for notoriety in the gambling world.

[MisterV]

I don't know what your point is, but that's a weird take.

His point may be that to be a truly successful professional sports bettor one must network with myriad sources of intormation and take advantage of all existing technologies, especially computer based, i.e.: "successful sports and horse bettors use large quantitative models and/or have access to off-market lines."

The implication may be that redietz lacked the ability to do this then and now.

[coach belly]

Maybe the message will be in AW's sent folder, but not in redietz's inbox.

I can guarantee you it's in my sent folder and has been since yesterday, 08:19 AM. I somehow replied to our conversation and it was sent to myself.

LOL...I sure spotted that coming from a mile away...2800 miles away, actually.

It's kinda like tewlj feeding bullshit lines for Kim Lee to post.

[MDawg]

Well, can you expect A.Wolf to be technologically proficient? After all, he has a non-existent memory, incapable of even quoting properly at WOV constantly ends up getting the HTML quoting function code wrong, that he can't handle a simple <<Send>> function on a forum or email should come as no surprise.

A.Wolf is truly proof that casinos must be stupid that someone like him is apparently capable of getting over on them.

Axelwolf was drunk 80% of the time I worked with him. He used to have me order his drinks for him, so that he could have two drinks at the same time. Always captain morgan.

Axelwolf's decision making skills were affected by his drinking, no question. He would be drunk, then make poor decisions, which in the end costed team money.

I believe that 99% of people would have made the right decision in that moment, but axelwolf was not able to.

I have personally witnessed axel forget very important details multiple times. One time I lost $2000 while working with him. When I brought it up, he said "You're so full of shit."

[Don Perignom]

The implication may be that redietz lacked the ability to do this then and now.

I guess so, but it assumes you need one specific tactic to beat sports, whereas in fact sports can be beaten through any of multiple tactics.

The difficulty level is overstated imo.

[AxelWolf]

Maybe the message will be in AW's sent folder, but not in redietz's inbox.

I can guarantee you it's in my sent folder and has been since yesterday, 08:19 AM. I somehow replied to our conversation and it was sent to myself.

LOL...I sure spotted that coming from a mile away...2800 miles away, actually.

It's kinda like tewlj feeding bullshit lines for Kim Lee to post.

How is it BS? I have the proof. It was an honest mistake. I have since corrected the issue and set it again. It's not the first time it's happened, and won't be the last. VCT will time out/log you off if you let too much time go by; perhaps it had something to do with that.

[redietz]

[QUOTE=MisterV;195315]

His point may be that to be a truly successful professional sports bettor one must network with myriad sources of intormation and take advantage of all existing technologies, especially computer based, i.e.: "successful sports and horse bettors use large quantitative models and/or have access to off-market lines."

The implication may be that redietz lacked the ability to do this then and now.

I think one of the problems with Kim Lee's summary is that he uses the word "sports" as opposed to other words. Kind of like saying there are very few "surgeons-who-can-operate-on-every-bone-and-organ" in the world. Not terribly surprising, but how significant is that observation?

The distinction I'm making is one of definition, which -- as in most cases -- the common fallacy is to mis-define behaviors and actions, usually in a way that (1) simplifies things in a definitional way, (2) amplifies the ego and alleged abilities of the person involved a la Leonardo Da APs, but in this case Leonardo Da "Sports Bettors," and (3) benefits the sports books (as always).

Another analogy is that successful handicappers treat "sports betting" more like the Eskimos treat "snow." In other words, and I mean literally, the Eskimos have more words for snowfall and don't lump all the varieties together just because that's the way Westerners see "snow." Translating all the Eskimo definitions of snow into a couple (1) simplifies things, (2) makes the people who have to deal with their two definitions of "snow" confident they know it all and (3) benefits those who sell snow shovels.

I know Boz has a pretty good handle on what I'm talking about; not sure "APs" have the humility or precision required.

And I'm not even broaching the subject of addiction. Specialization may retard addiction to launching funds on variegated events that really have nothing in common. A college football specialist, such as myself, has 220 days out of the year where's he's betting almost nothing. That does tend to immunize one to some degree from many behavioral pitfalls. Sports books would prefer a different kind of behavior.

[MDawg]

perhaps it had something to do with

your gross technical incompetence.