This Ain't No Poll

[kewlJ]

MDOG, Why do you comment about things you know NOTHING about? The topic of this thread really is about video poker play, and Red has hijacked it to talking about my sports betting. YOU know nothing about either topic. And yet here you are commenting. You know who else comments about shit they don't know about? Tasha! You are right there on par with Tasha. You must be proud.

Well they`re both black and idiots, so yeah

Yeaah, Dawg I am not surprised at. Like Tasha, we know he is clueless about most things he talks about.

The one that surprises me is Bob Dietz. Why is the greatest sports bettor of the 20th century....not 21st, but 20th, a man with a super high IQ having such trouble understanding what I am doing, the simplest of advantage plays involving sports betting.

I am quite sure, Boz, axelwolf, mickeycrimm, Druff, Kim Lee and anyone else that does anything with sports betting gets it. Only the world's greatest sports bettor is in a fog about it.

Not just me I guess. The world's greatest sports better also doesn't seem to know about EV in sports betting and is at odd with what most other successful sports betters do and say. Just about every clip mickeycrimm posts of successful sports bettors is in conflict with what SuperTout says.

I guess maybe he is right and everyone else in the world is wrong. Yeah....that's probably it.

[MDawg]

In fairness to MDawg, he has definitely proven more about himself than I understand you to have done.

If I have to be honest here, at this point MDawg actually has way more credibility than you. He's actually met up with the wizard, played Baccarat at a medium level, and won.

since kewl has never (and never will) provided proof of anything, MDawg has to be considered the more credible between the two.

SooPoo supports MDawg:

[Rob.Singer]

since kewl has never (and never will) provided proof of anything, MDawg has to be considered the more credible between the two.

SooPoo supports MDawg:

Kew: what do you have to say about this small selection of AP's who aren't seeming to believe a word you say....all while giving at least some credibility to the words of mdawg? How much does it hurt, and why?

Might this be part of the reason you're seen by everyone as being such a big liar about everything & everyone you're envious of?

Take your time. Don't have another panic attack.

[mickeycrimm]

The Change Boys get mentioned at 18:15. That was Axel and his crew.

The place where Bob hit all the royals was actually called Ray's.

Axel has written some about the vegas bars. Perhaps he could tell us a little more.

Yes I just re-listened. It was Ray's, but those 25-30 $50k royals were over just 9 months, not 12 like I first thought I heard. That makes it even more stupifying. If ANYONE were to do that in any LV casino while using an inserted slot card, assuming they're winning like we're assuming about Bob, said casino would stop that player cold in his tracks--and far sooner than 25-30 huge royals. But here we have a well-known LV LOCAL VIDEO POKER PRO mopping up at a local neighborhood bar month after month after month, and what'd they do--look the other way and just kept on accepting the punishment?

Or....could he have been LOSING for maybe 6 months and then started getting luckier with making a profit near the end of his stint? Can axel help on this?

Either way, it had to take tons of daily play to get to that point. That's hard to stomach.

My best year for royals, before the multi-line machines, was 1999 where I hit 21 royals. It generally takes about a million hands to do that. So Dancer had to have been practically living in the place to hit that many royals in 9 months. If its true then you have to wonder how he got away with it. He was playing deuces which has longer royal odds than Jacks because you never throw away a deuce.

[kewlJ]

Kew: what do you have to say about this small selection of AP's who aren't seeming to believe a word you say....all while giving at least some credibility to the words of mdawg? How much does it hurt, and why?

I am absolutely fine with it Rob.

Look, I know what most real AP's think about me and if I am and have done what I claim. This is a troll forum that there is a lot of bickering, even among APs, and some times you are going to be on different sides of a "discussion" Sometimes it even gets heated, and there is some trolling and negative comments made.

Take someone like Axelwolf. sure he has said some not too flattering things about me on occasion. But at other times, he has said, he believes I am what I claim and added something to the effect that you can't know what I know about blackjack card counting unless you have done it at the level I claims. Something to that effect.

What about mickey? You can find some negative things he has said about me. (usually involving political view or something more than advantage play), but you can find and quote some negative things. But he has also said, something to the effect that I am what I claim and all you people trolling me know it as well.

But here is the funny thing Rob. You don't see me quote mickey or Axelwolf when they say something positive about me. No need. It is you trolls and haters that cherry pick something said like that.

And one more thing Rob. I don't really care what anyone thinks of me. I know you think I do, but you are absolutely delusional. Similarly, I am pretty sure mickey doesn't care about some of the negative things some people say about him. Nor does axelwolf. Why would we? It doesn't change what we do, what we make, if more or less people believe something we have said.

[kewlJ]

Here is another example, Rob. You boy MDOG posts negative quotes said about me, over and over and over. Same quotes from the same dozen people or so, and very few are real APs and if they are they are taken out of context. I mean he quotes some of the absolute craziest MFers, on some of the trolliest forums (even worse than here). What does that shit prove? That some crazy ass MFers dont like me. Good!

Do you think I couldn't do that with him? Not only the people on this forum that repeatedly go on record saying they don't believe him, but I could quote probably 50, maybe 100 (many APs) from WoV over the years that have said in no uncertain terms they don't believe him. What does that prove. He knows no one believes him. I know that no one believes him. YOU know that no one believes him. I dont need to post quotes every 2 minutes, like a crazy person.

[MDawg]

at the end of each day he tries to comfort himself in that tunnel that someone, somewhere believes him, and obviously doesn't enjoy the fact that no one believes him, compulsive liars like him are sociopathic enough to be beyond feeling any guilt or remorse, and would therefore not be expected to commit suicide over this sort of thing.

[jdaewoo]

Why isn't this retard posting more crap pretending to be a high roller?

[Rob.Singer]

Here is another example, Rob. You boy MDOG posts negative quotes said about me, over and over and over. Same quotes from the same dozen people or so, and very few are real APs and if they are they are taken out of context. I mean he quotes some of the absolute craziest MFers, on some of the trolliest forums (even worse than here). What does that shit prove? That some crazy ass MFers dont like me. Good!

Do you think I couldn't do that with him? Not only the people on this forum that repeatedly go on record saying they don't believe him, but I could quote probably 50, maybe 100 (many APs) from WoV over the years that have said in no uncertain terms they don't believe him. What does that prove. He knows no one believes him. I know that no one believes him. YOU know that no one believes him. I dont need to post quotes every 2 minutes, like a crazy person.

Big difference kew, only you struggle to realize it. You can yap all day about how "mdawg loses because the math says so and because that's not the way LV works!"

Yet there are others here who don't have much to say about it other than, because of mdawg having put himself out there to be witnessed--and the hard facts that YOU'VE OFFERED NOTHING BUT DIDDLY-SQUAT, AND NOBODY KNOWS YOU--they offer up that what he says is much more believable than what you say. And at the same time mdawg, almost as neurotically omnipresent as you, posts VERY effective and surgically accurate quotes from just about everyone else, that slice and dice you straight into fairy dust.

Either way you cut it, this is an overall devastating mandate FOR mdawg...and AGAINST you. And oh man, do we get how much that stings, or what?!

[kewlJ]

YOU'VE OFFERED NOTHING BUT DIDDLY-SQUAT

Can you give me the name of a legitimate AP on this forum or any other forum that has shown proof of what they make or do?

AP's don't do that. Don't need to. That is not why we are on a forum. On all the forums I have been on, I can think of only 2 people that attempted to prove that shit, you and Mdawg. And in both cases your proof was laughable. And for good reason. In your case it was all fake and in Dawgs case he is attempting to prove things by showing money and chips (that aren't even his) that dont prove a damn thing about winning or losing.

Nobody else on any forum that I am aware of ever attempted to prove anything. As soon as someone does attempt that.....you KNOW they are lying.

The other thing you and dawg have in common that I have seen no one else do on any forum is viciously attack people with lies simply because they don't believe you. Nobody else does that. I don't do that. I will troll back when someone starts trolling me, but I don't attack people because they don't believe me. Because it just doesn't matter. My life doesn't change one bit if someone doesn't believe me.

Dawg has followed in your footsteps with both attacking people who simply said they don't believe him and thinking people are jealous of him. I see no one that is.

You are a goofy old bastard Singer. I don't know why I even give you the time of day. I really should stop feeding you trolls.

[kewlJ]

And Bob Dietz, take notice of what I just said. Only two people on all the forums I have been on attempted to prove what they do and what they make monetarily. And both are huge frauds. No real player, real winning gambler, real sports bettor has the need to prove something like that to strangers on an internet forum.

So pack up all your documentation from 40 years ago and save it for scamming your tout customers or clients of whatever you call them. Dont be showing us that meaningless shit on an internet forum.

If someone is attempting to prove something like that to strangers on an internet forum....RED FLAG, RED FLAG, RED FLAG!

[kewlJ]

It always comes back to one thing. I and every other real AP, real player doesn't need proof from anyone. We can figure out pretty quickly who knows what they are talking about and who is just talking. (ever heard me say that?)

And I have provided way more details about what I do and how I do it, that should prove to anyone who isn't a complete idiot that I know what I am talking about with what I do. If someone doesn't want to believe it for some other reason, something they might not like about me, that is on them, NOT me. That is just someone playing.....trolling. Imagine THAT on this forum.

It is people like you and dawg that provide no real details that make any sense about your claims. It is all voodoo type shit, defying the math and long ago disproven.

[kewlJ]

One final thing Rob. You come across as a weird deeply closeted old queen that has some sort of school boy crush on me. And that despite that you don't know me, or what I look like even. I guess it is the idea of me, that you fantasize about. How many people have told you that? You act exactly like a third grade boy, saying and doing stupid shit to get the attention of his crush.

I guess at 80 some years old, you are harmless enough, but just stop. It is creepy.

[theywontpayontuesday]

If Rob Singer were to pass away, would be talking about what an awesome liar he was with the Newell etc, be speaking ill well or would he want us laughing about it.

[redietz]

And Bob Dietz, take notice of what I just said. Only two people on all the forums I have been on attempted to prove what they do and what they make monetarily. And both are huge frauds. No real player, real winning gambler, real sports bettor has the need to prove something like that to strangers on an internet forum.

So pack up all your documentation from 40 years ago and save it for scamming your tout customers or clients of whatever you call them. Dont be showing us that meaningless shit on an internet forum.

If someone is attempting to prove something like that to strangers on an internet forum....RED FLAG, RED FLAG, RED FLAG!

Makes perfect sense. The reason nobody needs to evaluate evidence is because:

1) KewlJ knows all; sees all.
2) KewlJ has no evidence backing up any of his claims.
3) "Proving stuff to strangers on an internet forum?" LOL. The KewlJ(s) have spent more waking hours doing that than any human being on the internet.

Other points:

4) Documentation is documentation, as opposed to whatever silly unverifiable claims the KewlJ(s) make.
5) Whether it's professionals verifying who I am and what I do for the National Conference on Gambling and Risk-Taking or
6) Monitors who documented me for decades or
7) Wise Guys competition, from which I retired two years ago (not 40), featuring 30 years of documentation publicly available on newsstands each and every week
8) Journalists who interviewed me or newspapers that published my op eds
9) As I said, documentation is documentation, as opposed to KewlJ's nonsense.

Basically, kewlJ wants people to believe him based on kewlJ. LOL.

It's ridiculous. Nobody vets kewlJ. He thinks he's provided evidence of his abilities because he says so.

His posting is manic, completely insulated from other people, completely insulated from real environments, and demonstrates what? Expertise anyone with three blackjack books could duplicate.

The kicker is I put myself out there for decades, in advance, taking risks every single week in front of tens of thousands of people, knowing that I could wind up looking like a moron. KewlJ can't even get a half dozen people to go to bat for him that he is who he says he is.

It's comical. Wait, wait, RED FLAG! RED FLAG! RED FLAG!

You gotta love his act. No evidence is evidence. Not providing evidence is evidence. If you provide evidence, then that's evidence you don't know what you're doing.

He should occasionally read his own stuff. He'd figure out why he sounds nuts.

[MDawg]

You think you've proven your case??? Absolute delusion.
To prove a case you must submit proof. But you never have and never will, remember?

Gentlemen, at this point I'm starting to think kewl is possibly bipolar. When these people are in a manic state they are often delusional.

[theywontpayontuesday]

Some people shouldn't be torn down even if you could.

[kewlJ]

6) Monitors who documented me for decades or
7) Wise Guys competition, from which I retired two years ago (not 40), featuring 30 years of documentation publicly available on newsstands each and every week

Dietz, nobody gives a fuck about op-eds you have written or any of these conferences you mention. That is complete garbage.

As for Wiseguys and Gypsters and Mccusker, why do we have to keep going over this shit? These things don't prove what you are trying to claim they do. No more than Singer climbing in an Rv at the dealership proved anything. No more than some chips or cash proves Mdawg won a red cent.

Might I remind you that YOU, talked up Kim Lee as an expert. He had all the publications and could verify what you were claiming. And what happened? Kim Lee came here and said after studying all the publications for decades, all YOUR results, he though maybe between touting and the little bit of sports betting you actually did, maybe, just maybe you could have made a few buck, if you had someone basically supporting you (like a college professor wife). In other words, maybe, just maybe you could have made chump change.

That is what the documentation and YOUR expert witness said.

Now besides that, if we go by the "knows what he is talking about test". You don't know about EV in sports betting, you didn't know about Kelly wagering. Everything you say directly contradicts all the known successful sports bettors that mickey has linked to. I mean, not even close. What you say is complete opposite of what numerous experts say.

You want to prove what you know....do Druff's interview and answer some questions from Axelwolf and other knowledgeable people.

[MDawg]

What we DO know about UNKewlJ is that he is just as much of a

thieving lying low down no good varmint.

in person as he is online.

His own family booted him from the familial household, what does that tell you?

Is there anyone on these forums more universally despised than the UNKewl one? Doubtful.

[kewlJ]

To prove a case you must submit proof. But you never have and never will, remember?

This is NOT a court of law! There are reasons we don't do proof here. Reasons like Rob Singer sitting at the wheel of an Rv he doesn't own, Mdawg spreading chips, cash, jewlery out on a bed, Singer posting a handwritten bill of sale for an RV, Singer posting a picture of a jackpot on a computer screen in his daughters house.

These things were all supposed to be proof. None of them are. None of them prove anything about what the person says they do.

So stop with the proof bullshit. And no real player needs that. All you need to do is listen to someone talk, or in the case of a forum what they write and you will know in very short order if they know what the fuck they are talking about.

When they start talking about machines telepathing hot and cold cycles, they don't know what they are talking about. When they don't understand EV and understand that you need a +EV situation to win long-term....they don't know what they are talking about.

When they start talking about betting into hot streaks, 60 winning blackjack hands in a row and winning tens, hundreds of thousands of dollars and the casinos not caring....they don't know what they are talking about. When they start claiming they win because they are rainman??....PLEASE! They don't know what they are talking about.

Once you know that they have no clue what they are talking about, the last thing you need is some goofy doctored, phony proof or some "proof" that doesn't prove what they claim it does.


Why do we have to keep playing these games?