Now I have to come back and clarify a few things.

A real AP or professional gambler having a wife that works is not disqualifying. I think Axelwolf has a wife that worked. A real good (online) friend that I networked with for years had a wife that worked, while he traveled a number of days a month making a good living as an AP (at first card counter, later other things). They had a house in the suburbs and put two kids through college. Just one of them was an advantage player for a living. So the wife that works is not the disqualifying thing. A wife supporting a break-even (at best) gambler is disqualifying as a professional AP (or gambler).

The second thing is the retired guys. there is absolutely nothing wrong with supplementing retirement with advantage play. Just say that is what you are fucking doing and don't play these word games about being a professional player, when you are not.

And Mickeycrimm, falls under retirement now that he collects SS. Mickey says he doesn't touch his SS, just has it build in the bank, and I believe him 100%. I get the feeling he is making more now or at least as much as any time in his life and having fun doing so. He is living off his advantage play, just happens to get a SS check on top. That is a lot different than someone living off their retirement check or savings and claiming to live off their gambling.