Professional Sportsbetting

[kewlJ]

Integrity Sports says kelly betting does not apply to sports betting because just because you consistently won in the past does not mean you will win in the future.

Integrity Sports also promised something like a 10% or 15% return for a 4 month investment. In other words, those future bets are going to cash and show a profit.

So in the first case, according to Integrity Sports, you CAN'T count on winning, but in the 2nd case, you CAN count on winning.

How does that work, redietz?

I get your point. Dietz is making flip-flopping, contradictory statements to serve his needs.

But here is what I would ask. Just what constitutes a large enough sample size (of past results) to have meaning? 100's of games? thousands of games? 10's of thousands of games? The guys that use computer analysis are analyzing thousands and 10's of thousands of games.

So what about this first 2 weeks of NFL underdogs? The data shows for 12 years now I think, Dogs +points have won significantly, showing a profit every year or every year but 1 (I forget). But it is NOT 12 years of all games. It is 12 years of the first 2 weeks games. @ 16 games a week that is 32 games a year or 384 games. Is that a big enough sample size? Probably not.

What do you think mickey? I can't wait to hit this play. Last year I bet moderately big and the first week lost, and the second week won, more than the first weeks loss for a reasonably smallish profit. This year, I am going to hit it big. Move money around, throw half my bankroll at it spread around the Vegas books. Going all in, so to speak. Kelly says not to do this. Fuck it, I am going all in. 6-26 or 8-24 over the 2 weeks could spell my first ever losing year as an AP. I am going with the math. Over-betting, but going with the math.

And this is the last time I am going to speak about it until after week 2 results. Will give the KJ haters something to root for.

[MDawg]

Perhaps if you worked harder to create a coherent narrative that didn't contradict itself or defy common sense...

In year 4 of my blackjack career, back in Atlantic City, I joined up with a blackjack team for a number of months.

I have a friend who is a top AP in this town that is well known. Author of a top AP book, years ago. He has been to my home a number of times now and I have worked with him and his team a number of times.

versus

I was recruited for teams at least twice. Another top, long running team claims they were recruiting me that I was not aware of. I turned down all offers.

versus

I have a blackjack partner. We operate a two man team. I am playing with a partner [as part of a] larger team.

I have never been a member of a team, solo act only.

How are you harping on someone else to explain their timeline when your own timeline is swiss cheese?

[redietz]

Integrity Sports says kelly betting does not apply to sports betting because just because you consistently won in the past does not mean you will win in the future.

Integrity Sports also promised something like a 10% or 15% return for a 4 month investment. In other words, those future bets are going to cash and show a profit.

So in the first case, according to Integrity Sports, you CAN'T count on winning, but in the 2nd case, you CAN count on winning.

How does that work, redietz?

Even back in my youth, I wrote carefully, is how that works, mickey.

I see you didn't provide a screen shot of the alleged quote. Let's look it up in real time, shall we?

Well, mickey, care to rewrite what you wrote? I understand you didn't have the advantage of a college education, so I will walk you through it. Now understand that I wrote this 27 or 28 years ago.

"Modus operandi" means "characteristic or well-established way of doing something." There is no "promise." It's implicit that any reference is to past results. It's also implicit that any reference to 10-15% profit is a goal going forward, not a guarantee.

Even back in my youth, I knew better than to misuse phrases like "EV."

No charge for the vocabulary lesson. But if you're going to quote me next time, quote me. Don't paraphrase what you think something might mean. Or if you don't clearly remember what I said, have the work ethic to look it up before typing. And then head to Wikipedia for a definition if you don't understand a word or phrase.

[mickeycrimm]

Integrity Sports says kelly betting does not apply to sports betting because just because you consistently won in the past does not mean you will win in the future.

Integrity Sports also promised something like a 10% or 15% return for a 4 month investment. In other words, those future bets are going to cash and show a profit.

So in the first case, according to Integrity Sports, you CAN'T count on winning, but in the 2nd case, you CAN count on winning.

How does that work, redietz?

Even back in my youth, I wrote carefully, is how that works, mickey.

I see you didn't provide a screen shot of the alleged quote. Let's look it up in real time, shall we?

Well, mickey, care to rewrite what you wrote? I understand you didn't have the advantage of a college education, so I will walk you through it. Now understand that I wrote this 27 or 28 years ago.

"Modus operandi" means "characteristic or well-established way of doing something." There is no "promise." It's implicit that any reference is to past results. It's also implicit that any reference to 10-15% profit is a goal going forward, not a guarantee.

Even back in my youth, I knew better than to misuse phrases like "EV."

No charge for the vocabulary lesson. But if you're going to quote me next time, quote me. Don't paraphrase what you think something might mean. Or if you don't clearly remember what I said, have the work ethic to look it up before typing. And then head to Wikipedia for a definition if you don't understand a word or phrase.

Bitch, I don't take orders from you. I do what the fuck I want, not what you want.

[mickeycrimm]

Integrity Sports says kelly betting does not apply to sports betting because just because you consistently won in the past does not mean you will win in the future.

Integrity Sports also promised something like a 10% or 15% return for a 4 month investment. In other words, those future bets are going to cash and show a profit.

So in the first case, according to Integrity Sports, you CAN'T count on winning, but in the 2nd case, you CAN count on winning.

How does that work, redietz?

Even back in my youth, I wrote carefully, is how that works, mickey.

I see you didn't provide a screen shot of the alleged quote. Let's look it up in real time, shall we?

Well, mickey, care to rewrite what you wrote? I understand you didn't have the advantage of a college education, so I will walk you through it. Now understand that I wrote this 27 or 28 years ago.

"Modus operandi" means "characteristic or well-established way of doing something." There is no "promise." It's implicit that any reference is to past results. It's also implicit that any reference to 10-15% profit is a goal going forward, not a guarantee.

Even back in my youth, I knew better than to misuse phrases like "EV."

No charge for the vocabulary lesson. But if you're going to quote me next time, quote me. Don't paraphrase what you think something might mean. Or if you don't clearly remember what I said, have the work ethic to look it up before typing. And then head to Wikipedia for a definition if you don't understand a word or phrase.

Bitch, I don't take orders from you. I do what the fuck I want, not what you want. If you don't like it, fuck off and die.

[mickeycrimm]

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[kewlJ]

Integrity Sports says kelly betting does not apply to sports betting because just because you consistently won in the past does not mean you will win in the future.

Integrity Sports also promised something like a 10% or 15% return for a 4 month investment. In other words, those future bets are going to cash and show a profit.

So in the first case, according to Integrity Sports, you CAN'T count on winning, but in the 2nd case, you CAN count on winning.

How does that work, redietz?

Even back in my youth, I wrote carefully, is how that works, mickey.

I see you didn't provide a screen shot of the alleged quote. Let's look it up in real time, shall we?

Well, mickey, care to rewrite what you wrote? I understand you didn't have the advantage of a college education, so I will walk you through it. Now understand that I wrote this 27 or 28 years ago.

"Modus operandi" means "characteristic or well-established way of doing something." There is no "promise." It's implicit that any reference is to past results. It's also implicit that any reference to 10-15% profit is a goal going forward, not a guarantee.

Even back in my youth, I knew better than to misuse phrases like "EV."

No charge for the vocabulary lesson. But if you're going to quote me next time, quote me. Don't paraphrase what you think something might mean. Or if you don't clearly remember what I said, have the work ethic to look it up before typing. And then head to Wikipedia for a definition if you don't understand a word or phrase.

This post is the epitome of Bob Dietz and all his arrogance. Mickeycrimm, college education or degree or not is far more knowledgeable that you with your Pa Farmers college degree. Far more knowledgeable than me with my patchwork degree of several years at Villanova (Go Cats!), finished up online. Far more knowledgeable than most APs that play for a living.

Detractors like Dawg, use the same argument with Axelwolf. But here is the truth. A degree in advantage play is not learned in a classroom. It is learned in the casino. Not only do many successful AP's have no college degree, but there are many that have a degree in something totally unrelated (like journalism) that lends nothing to what they make a living at. My brother is one of that second group. His degree, I am not even going to say what in, lends nothing to how he has made a living for 11 years now.

Dietz, you using college education and degrees as some measuring stick about advantage play, is just another case of you not having a clue.

[MDawg]

Professional Gamblers / Casino APs who actually make their living from beating casinos don’t spend all their time trying to convince everyone they are legit. It’s the exact opposite. They don’t want anyone to know because it threatens their ability to earn.

The fact you have spent thousands of hours and years of your life 10000s of posts trying to convince everyone with a computer you play blackjack for a living proves you don’t do shit.

100 percent you sell ass and mouth for cash. You play some on the side but your sugar daddies pay the bills. Fact

[redietz]

Integrity Sports says kelly betting does not apply to sports betting because just because you consistently won in the past does not mean you will win in the future.

Integrity Sports also promised something like a 10% or 15% return for a 4 month investment. In other words, those future bets are going to cash and show a profit.

So in the first case, according to Integrity Sports, you CAN'T count on winning, but in the 2nd case, you CAN count on winning.

How does that work, redietz?

Even back in my youth, I wrote carefully, is how that works, mickey.

I see you didn't provide a screen shot of the alleged quote. Let's look it up in real time, shall we?

Well, mickey, care to rewrite what you wrote? I understand you didn't have the advantage of a college education, so I will walk you through it. Now understand that I wrote this 27 or 28 years ago.

"Modus operandi" means "characteristic or well-established way of doing something." There is no "promise." It's implicit that any reference is to past results. It's also implicit that any reference to 10-15% profit is a goal going forward, not a guarantee.

Even back in my youth, I knew better than to misuse phrases like "EV."

No charge for the vocabulary lesson. But if you're going to quote me next time, quote me. Don't paraphrase what you think something might mean. Or if you don't clearly remember what I said, have the work ethic to look it up before typing. And then head to Wikipedia for a definition if you don't understand a word or phrase.

This post is the epitome of Bob Dietz and all his arrogance. Mickeycrimm, college education or degree or not is far more knowledgeable that you with your Pa Farmers college degree. Far more knowledgeable than me with my patchwork degree of several years at Villanova (Go Cats!), finished up online. Far more knowledgeable than most APs that play for a living.

Detractors like Dawg, use the same argument with Axelwolf. But here is the truth. A degree in advantage play is not learned in a classroom. It is learned in the casino. Not only do many successful AP's have no college degree, but there are many that have a degree in something totally unrelated (like journalism) that lends nothing to what they make a living at. My brother is one of that second group. His degree, I am not even going to say what in, lends nothing to how he has made a living for 11 years now.

Dietz, you using college education and degrees as some measuring stick about advantage play, is just another case of you not having a clue.

Believe it or not, I was being kind to mickey. If you'll notice, I have been restrained, probably overly so, with him. It would be completely uncharacteristic of my posts with him for me to pull some kind of "college educated rank" stuff. I was serious. I realized there was a good chance he had mentally summarized "Modus Operandi" as "EV" in his head because "Modus Operandi" is not a phrase one runs into on forums all the time.

I certainly wouldn't lie about it. Go back and re-read my posts to mickey from the last year. I have been respectful 99% of the time, and restrained, because I think he is struggling a bit. As opposed, of course, to you. You're just an assclown, as Tony Stark says in Iron Man 2.

[kewlJ]

I may be an assclown. I may be a bit of a dick at times on these forums. I may be a bit arrogant and opinionated and even dislikeable, myself. But I am a real AP who has ground out a living for 22 years from casinos, and I can spot a phony/poser a mile away.

I will give you this much, you flew under my radar for a good long time, but that is only because I am a blackjack AP, and had little knowledge of sports betting. But eventually like all these posers, you exposed yourself (although got some help from mickeycrimm and the final nail by Kim Lee). And when it all crumbles, it crumbles fast.

Can we get the movie dude Dennison to make a movie, "The professional sports tout". Never seen a movie on that subject matter. You might even make a few bucks.

Probably getting Bruce Willis to play the tout is out of the question since he can no longer even remember what he had for lunch. maybe some other bald dude, like Tucci. I could see Stanley Tucci as the scammy tout.

[MDawg]

UNKewlJ also has a ridiculous deficiency when it comes to reading the room - still doesn't get that no one believes him and has resigned him to the scrap pile for some time now. Inability to read the room also translates into someone who could never survive in a casino environment, certainly not under the radar.

[AxelWolf]

Now I have to come back and clarify a few things.

A real AP or professional gambler having a wife that works is not disqualifying. I think Axelwolf has a wife that worked. A real good (online) friend that I networked with for years had a wife that worked, while he traveled a number of days a month making a good living as an AP (at first card counter, later other things). They had a house in the suburbs and put two kids through college. Just one of them was an advantage player for a living. So the wife that works is not the disqualifying thing. A wife supporting a break-even (at best) gambler is disqualifying as a professional AP (or gambler).

The second thing is the retired guys. there is absolutely nothing wrong with supplementing retirement with advantage play. Just say that is what you are fucking doing and don't play these word games about being a professional player, when you are not.

And Mickeycrimm, falls under retirement now that he collects SS. Mickey says he doesn't touch his SS, just has it build in the bank, and I believe him 100%. I get the feeling he is making more now or at least as much as any time in his life and having fun doing so. He is living off his advantage play, just happens to get a SS check on top. That is a lot different than someone living off their retirement check or savings and claiming to live off their gambling.

In the last 24 years, my wife has more years of college than she has worked a real job; she has a total of about 2 years working a real job, she worked at a bank for a while, a few odd jobs, and one year as a cocktail waitress.

She has spent many hours working for or with me as an advantage player. She also played a few slam dunk plays on her own, but she normally doesn't like to unless it's practically risk free easy money, because she's very, very risk-averse.

[mickeycrimm]

Even back in my youth, I wrote carefully, is how that works, mickey.

I see you didn't provide a screen shot of the alleged quote. Let's look it up in real time, shall we?

Well, mickey, care to rewrite what you wrote? I understand you didn't have the advantage of a college education, so I will walk you through it. Now understand that I wrote this 27 or 28 years ago.

"Modus operandi" means "characteristic or well-established way of doing something." There is no "promise." It's implicit that any reference is to past results. It's also implicit that any reference to 10-15% profit is a goal going forward, not a guarantee.

Even back in my youth, I knew better than to misuse phrases like "EV."

No charge for the vocabulary lesson. But if you're going to quote me next time, quote me. Don't paraphrase what you think something might mean. Or if you don't clearly remember what I said, have the work ethic to look it up before typing. And then head to Wikipedia for a definition if you don't understand a word or phrase.

This post is the epitome of Bob Dietz and all his arrogance. Mickeycrimm, college education or degree or not is far more knowledgeable that you with your Pa Farmers college degree. Far more knowledgeable than me with my patchwork degree of several years at Villanova (Go Cats!), finished up online. Far more knowledgeable than most APs that play for a living.

Detractors like Dawg, use the same argument with Axelwolf. But here is the truth. A degree in advantage play is not learned in a classroom. It is learned in the casino. Not only do many successful AP's have no college degree, but there are many that have a degree in something totally unrelated (like journalism) that lends nothing to what they make a living at. My brother is one of that second group. His degree, I am not even going to say what in, lends nothing to how he has made a living for 11 years now.

Dietz, you using college education and degrees as some measuring stick about advantage play, is just another case of you not having a clue.

Believe it or not, I was being kind to mickey. If you'll notice, I have been restrained, probably overly so, with him. It would be completely uncharacteristic of my posts with him for me to pull some kind of "college educated rank" stuff. I was serious. I realized there was a good chance he had mentally summarized "Modus Operandi" as "EV" in his head because "Modus Operandi" is not a phrase one runs into on forums all the time.

I certainly wouldn't lie about it. Go back and re-read my posts to mickey from the last year. I have been respectful 99% of the time, and restrained, because I think he is struggling a bit. As opposed, of course, to you. You're just an assclown, as Tony Stark says in Iron Man 2.

God, you’re stupid.

[mickeycrimm]

Here's some quotes from Walters' book, Chapter 10, The Computer Group:

"We were the nations largest betting syndicate. Our origins traced back to a geeky softball player tinkering on his computer."

"Michael Kent was a....math and computer wizard when he wrote the code that birthed the Computer Group....He wrote the computer program that pioneered the use of algorithms and PROBABILITY THEORIES to predict power rated numbers in sporting events against the official Las Vegas line. His creation proved to be a groundbreaking formula for wagering on college and professional sports."

"Mike upgraded his software program, which was performing more and more like a crystal ball, winning north of 60% of the bets....betting at times one hundred games per week."

"My job with the group was moving money....'Chicago Gary' was my man on the street in charge of a crew of at least thirty runners....On an average weekend with pro football, college football and basketball in full swing, we placed bets totaling more than $10 million."

[redietz]

Here's some quotes from Walters' book, Chapter 10, The Computer Group:

"We were the nations largest betting syndicate. Our origins traced back to a geeky softball player tinkering on his computer."

"Michael Kent was a....math and computer wizard when he wrote the code that birthed the Computer Group....He wrote the computer program that pioneered the use of algorithms and PROBABILITY THEORIES to predict power rated numbers in sporting events against the official Las Vegas line. His creation proved to be a groundbreaking formula for wagering on college and professional sports."

"Mike upgraded his software program, which was performing more and more like a crystal ball, winning north of 60% of the bets....betting at times one hundred games per week."

"My job with the group was moving money....'Chicago Gary' was my man on the street in charge of a crew of at least thirty runners....On an average weekend with pro football, college football and basketball in full swing, we placed bets totaling more than $10 million."

Mickey, obviously I know all this stuff. I walked the book club through it. Why do you think it somehow supports whatever it is you think you are saying?

And if you'll notice, I haven't initiated a negative post regarding you for a long, long time. Every response of mine, even this one, is a reaction to a post you made attacking me in some way or challenging what I stated. I haven't initiated negative posts regarding you. It's something I decided on quite a ways back. I didn't bother to mention it because it's actually pretty obvious (as opposed to my comments regarding kewlJ, who is an ass clown).

So I suppose I should apologize for being gentle and not attacking you except as a response. Okay, you got it. I apologize that anything negative I said about you was strictly a response, and a gentler response, to whatever you had to say about me.

Have a good day, and if you want to interview me in LV, I will be more than happy to use some air miles to bring you down to your old stomping grounds. If you haven't seen Circa yet, it's a hoot.

[mickeycrimm]

Here's some quotes from Walters' book, Chapter 10, The Computer Group:

"We were the nations largest betting syndicate. Our origins traced back to a geeky softball player tinkering on his computer."

"Michael Kent was a....math and computer wizard when he wrote the code that birthed the Computer Group....He wrote the computer program that pioneered the use of algorithms and PROBABILITY THEORIES to predict power rated numbers in sporting events against the official Las Vegas line. His creation proved to be a groundbreaking formula for wagering on college and professional sports."

"Mike upgraded his software program, which was performing more and more like a crystal ball, winning north of 60% of the bets....betting at times one hundred games per week."

"My job with the group was moving money....'Chicago Gary' was my man on the street in charge of a crew of at least thirty runners....On an average weekend with pro football, college football and basketball in full swing, we placed bets totaling more than $10 million."

Mickey, obviously I know all this stuff. I walked the book club through it. Why do you think it somehow supports whatever it is you think you are saying?

And if you'll notice, I haven't initiated a negative post regarding you for a long, long time. Every response of mine, even this one, is a reaction to a post you made attacking me in some way or challenging what I stated. I haven't initiated negative posts regarding you. It's something I decided on quite a ways back. I didn't bother to mention it because it's actually pretty obvious (as opposed to my comments regarding kewlJ, who is an ass clown).

So I suppose I should apologize for being gentle and not attacking you except as a response. Okay, you got it. I apologize that anything negative I said about you was strictly a response, and a gentler response, to whatever you had to say about me.

Have a good day, and if you want to interview me in LV, I will be more than happy to use some air miles to bring you down to your old stomping grounds. If you haven't seen Circa yet, it's a hoot.

Your compulsive lying is glaring. Every post you’ve made toward me has anything from negative connotations to downright hostility.

You have great reason for lying. You painted yourself into a very tight corner with the “opinion” shit. Walters was betting statistics not opinions. So you decided to allege in so many words that his book is a fraud, a hoax. Everyone can see thru your bullshit. You’ve done great harm to what little reputation you had.

I will gladly pay your airfare to North Korea if you promise not to come back.

[mickeycrimm]

Integrity Sports says kelly betting does not apply to sports betting because just because you consistently won in the past does not mean you will win in the future.

Integrity Sports also promised something like a 10% or 15% return for a 4 month investment. In other words, those future bets are going to cash and show a profit.

So in the first case, according to Integrity Sports, you CAN'T count on winning, but in the 2nd case, you CAN count on winning.

How does that work, redietz?

I get your point. Dietz is making flip-flopping, contradictory statements to serve his needs.

But here is what I would ask. Just what constitutes a large enough sample size (of past results) to have meaning? 100's of games? thousands of games? 10's of thousands of games? The guys that use computer analysis are analyzing thousands and 10's of thousands of games.

According to Walters, when a game was over, they had to integrate the stats of that game into the power rating. They did this at the rate of 10% to get the new power rating. I think that, mathematically, this meant the power rating would be based on the last 20 games or so. As the 10% rate would wash old stats out of the rating.

[accountinquestion]

Even back in my youth, I wrote carefully, is how that works, mickey.

I see you didn't provide a screen shot of the alleged quote. Let's look it up in real time, shall we?

Well, mickey, care to rewrite what you wrote? I understand you didn't have the advantage of a college education, so I will walk you through it. Now understand that I wrote this 27 or 28 years ago.

"Modus operandi" means "characteristic or well-established way of doing something." There is no "promise." It's implicit that any reference is to past results. It's also implicit that any reference to 10-15% profit is a goal going forward, not a guarantee.

Even back in my youth, I knew better than to misuse phrases like "EV."

No charge for the vocabulary lesson. But if you're going to quote me next time, quote me. Don't paraphrase what you think something might mean. Or if you don't clearly remember what I said, have the work ethic to look it up before typing. And then head to Wikipedia for a definition if you don't understand a word or phrase.

This post is the epitome of Bob Dietz and all his arrogance. Mickeycrimm, college education or degree or not is far more knowledgeable that you with your Pa Farmers college degree. Far more knowledgeable than me with my patchwork degree of several years at Villanova (Go Cats!), finished up online. Far more knowledgeable than most APs that play for a living.

Detractors like Dawg, use the same argument with Axelwolf. But here is the truth. A degree in advantage play is not learned in a classroom. It is learned in the casino. Not only do many successful AP's have no college degree, but there are many that have a degree in something totally unrelated (like journalism) that lends nothing to what they make a living at. My brother is one of that second group. His degree, I am not even going to say what in, lends nothing to how he has made a living for 11 years now.

Dietz, you using college education and degrees as some measuring stick about advantage play, is just another case of you not having a clue.

Believe it or not, I was being kind to mickey. If you'll notice, I have been restrained, probably overly so, with him. It would be completely uncharacteristic of my posts with him for me to pull some kind of "college educated rank" stuff. I was serious. I realized there was a good chance he had mentally summarized "Modus Operandi" as "EV" in his head because "Modus Operandi" is not a phrase one runs into on forums all the time.

I certainly wouldn't lie about it. Go back and re-read my posts to mickey from the last year. I have been respectful 99% of the time, and restrained, because I think he is struggling a bit. As opposed, of course, to you. You're just an assclown, as Tony Stark says in Iron Man 2.

He is struggling???


Buddy they're taking you to a nursing home in a few weeks but lied about it. There is no fucking house being built lmao.

You might be nice to mickey but I'm not nice to you.

Only one person has consistently midapplied Expected Value and it isn't Mickey.

[redietz]

This post is the epitome of Bob Dietz and all his arrogance. Mickeycrimm, college education or degree or not is far more knowledgeable that you with your Pa Farmers college degree. Far more knowledgeable than me with my patchwork degree of several years at Villanova (Go Cats!), finished up online. Far more knowledgeable than most APs that play for a living.

Detractors like Dawg, use the same argument with Axelwolf. But here is the truth. A degree in advantage play is not learned in a classroom. It is learned in the casino. Not only do many successful AP's have no college degree, but there are many that have a degree in something totally unrelated (like journalism) that lends nothing to what they make a living at. My brother is one of that second group. His degree, I am not even going to say what in, lends nothing to how he has made a living for 11 years now.

Dietz, you using college education and degrees as some measuring stick about advantage play, is just another case of you not having a clue.

Believe it or not, I was being kind to mickey. If you'll notice, I have been restrained, probably overly so, with him. It would be completely uncharacteristic of my posts with him for me to pull some kind of "college educated rank" stuff. I was serious. I realized there was a good chance he had mentally summarized "Modus Operandi" as "EV" in his head because "Modus Operandi" is not a phrase one runs into on forums all the time.

I certainly wouldn't lie about it. Go back and re-read my posts to mickey from the last year. I have been respectful 99% of the time, and restrained, because I think he is struggling a bit. As opposed, of course, to you. You're just an assclown, as Tony Stark says in Iron Man 2.

He is struggling???


Buddy they're taking you to a nursing home in a few weeks but lied about it. There is no fucking house being built lmao.

You might be nice to mickey but I'm not nice to you.

Only one person has consistently midapplied Expected Value and it isn't Mickey.

I get a kick out of people who think their opinion should be gilded with what, for 50 years, was considered a purely mathematical term. I'm not sure what to think of people who come to the conclusion that their subjective opinions deserve their own calculus with cute acronym labels. It's not so much that they are misapplying a math term; it's that they actually believe their subjective opinion is the nuts.

I hate to give away the farm on this, but you have to ask yourself, what would casinos prefer? What would sports books prefer? That people recognize when opinions are opinions, or that people label their opinions with math credentials so that they can "calculate" how much they'll be winning down the proverbial road?

[accountinquestion]

Believe it or not, I was being kind to mickey. If you'll notice, I have been restrained, probably overly so, with him. It would be completely uncharacteristic of my posts with him for me to pull some kind of "college educated rank" stuff. I was serious. I realized there was a good chance he had mentally summarized "Modus Operandi" as "EV" in his head because "Modus Operandi" is not a phrase one runs into on forums all the time.

I certainly wouldn't lie about it. Go back and re-read my posts to mickey from the last year. I have been respectful 99% of the time, and restrained, because I think he is struggling a bit. As opposed, of course, to you. You're just an assclown, as Tony Stark says in Iron Man 2.

He is struggling???


Buddy they're taking you to a nursing home in a few weeks but lied about it. There is no fucking house being built lmao.

You might be nice to mickey but I'm not nice to you.

Only one person has consistently midapplied Expected Value and it isn't Mickey.

I get a kick out of people who think their opinion should be gilded with what, for 50 years, was considered a purely mathematical term. I'm not sure what to think of people who come to the conclusion that their subjective opinions deserve their own calculus with cute acronym labels. It's not so much that they are misapplying a math term; it's that they actually believe their subjective opinion is the nuts.

I hate to give away the farm on this, but you have to ask yourself, what would casinos prefer? What would sports books prefer? That people recognize when opinions are opinions, or that people label their opinions with math credentials so that they can "calculate" how much they'll be winning down the proverbial road?

As mickey showed - your own website had ROI on it which is another word for EV if expressed before the event.

Dependent on the outcomes of your sports betting just like how others use EV.

Anyway funny how you don't lie like a lot of these people on here yet you're so insistent on defending being wrong. Good stuff

Then you just go swinging through a field of strawman. It has been explained to you countless times but you're too old to remember so you continue on fighting strawman defending Ant hills til your death.