Professional Sportsbetting

[redietz]

For those interested, check out the "Golf Futures" thread under "Sports and Sports Betting." We have a winner. It's a question of how much you want to hedge, which my superior half tells me is for wienies.

Ka-ching and all that.

You're welcome.

P.S. I'm no Riddler, but this wasn't bad.

[Half Smoke]

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per wiki - see link - Billy Walters bet and won a $2.2 million bet in 2007 on USC beating Michigan which they did by as score of 32-18

per google $2.2 million in 2007 is about equal to $3.3 million today

WOW_______!!!

from Wiki:

"In January 2007, Walters won a $2.2 million bet on University of Southern California defeating University of Michigan; USC won, 32–18. In 2011, Walters claimed he could make between $50 and $60 million on a good year"


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Walters_(gambler)


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[MisterV]

Hey rediietz...you are near the Bristol track...what is this about they're putting in a temporary baseball field there?

[AxelWolf]

I was in Portland for a while, about 4 or 5 days ago, looking at some utility trailers. I should have hit you up, but I had lots of stuff I needed to do. Do you know if, when you buy something like that in Oregon, they hit you for the sales taxes in other states when you register it?

[MisterV]

I was in Portland for a while, about 4 or 5 days ago, looking at some utility trailers. I should have hit you up, but I had lots of stuff I needed to do. Do you know if, when you buy something like that in Oregon, they hit you for the sales taxes in other states when you register it?

Yes.

You live in Washington now, and as certain as the sun will rise in the morning the Washington Dept. of Licensing WILL charge a one time sales tax when you register it.

Used to have to have them inspected too if they came from out of state, but I don't know if that is still required.

[DGenBen]

I was in Portland for a while, about 4 or 5 days ago, looking at some utility trailers. I should have hit you up, but I had lots of stuff I needed to do. Do you know if, when you buy something like that in Oregon, they hit you for the sales taxes in other states when you register it?

Yes.

You live in Washington now, and as certain as the sun will rise in the morning the Washington Dept. of Licensing WILL charge a one time sales tax when you register it.

Used to have to have them inspected too if they came from out of state, but I don't know if that is still required.

There is a saying that I think applies here, but I can’t quite remember what it was.

It was something like death and something.

Or the only thing that is certain is death and something else.

[mickeycrimm]

I was in Portland for a while, about 4 or 5 days ago, looking at some utility trailers. I should have hit you up, but I had lots of stuff I needed to do. Do you know if, when you buy something like that in Oregon, they hit you for the sales taxes in other states when you register it?

There's no sales tax in Oregon.

[AxelWolf]

I was in Portland for a while, about 4 or 5 days ago, looking at some utility trailers. I should have hit you up, but I had lots of stuff I needed to do. Do you know if, when you buy something like that in Oregon, they hit you for the sales taxes in other states when you register it?

There's no sales tax in Oregon.

Yes, I know, thus the question. I was wondering if buying something that needs to be registered and licensed in another state, if they end up charging you the sales taxes you would have paid elsewhere, I know they charge you some type of extra fees, I just wasn't sure what they were.

[AxelWolf]

I love watching MMA, boxing, UFC, Etc. Do not believe I can handicap any of those Sports; however, I occasionally use them for free bets, roll over and cover play, or I find something that I believe has value.

I ran into this, and I thought the under was a good bet. I didn't take the time to compare to other places because I was on the road and didn't have much time, and I just wanted to get a little action in after cashing out in between another cash out. I always mix up my betting amounts and mix in various Sports.
Anyways, they still haven't graded this bet. Now I'm wondering if there was something off.

[AxelWolf]

I was in Portland for a while, about 4 or 5 days ago, looking at some utility trailers. I should have hit you up, but I had lots of stuff I needed to do. Do you know if, when you buy something like that in Oregon, they hit you for the sales taxes in other states when you register it?

Yes.

You live in Washington now, and as certain as the sun will rise in the morning the Washington Dept. of Licensing WILL charge a one time sales tax when you register it.

Used to have to have them inspected too if they came from out of state, but I don't know if that is still required.

I've been trying to find a good deal on a utility trailer for hauling Lumber and what not. I wasn't finding anything reasonable used, they were close to the prices of new ones. For some reason, Oregon had a lot of good deals where you got a lot of bang for your buck as far as bed size and tire size. You could pick up a used 10 to 12-footer between $600 and $900, of course, I would have to drive a minimum of 2 hours one way.

I said fuck it, and just bought a brand new 5x8 for around $1,150 after taxes. But I'm still looking for jet skis, quads, and a 4x4. I just have to figure out if the Savings in Oregon are worth the time and travel. I'm not talking about the taxes per se, it just seems stuff like that is overall cheaper in Oregon.

[Don Perignom]

Anyways, they still haven't graded this bet. Now I'm wondering if there was something off.

I don't know where to find archived boxing odds, but this site (proboxingodds dot com) has some limited info:



Caesars had your bet at the same +600 odds, and I see the fight was highly expected to require a decision. So it doesn't look like you had a +EV bet, and therefore I don't know why it hasn't been graded.

Should help your image though at the book .

[mickeycrimm]

Hayden Island, in the Columbia River between Portland and Vancouver, has a ton of big box stores that cater to Washingtonians wanting to avoid the over 8% Washington sales tax.

[MisterV]

Hayden Island, in the Columbia River between Portland and Vancouver, has a ton of big box stores that cater to Washingtonians wanting to avoid the over 8% Washington sales tax.

Washington has a sales tax but no income tax, and Oregon is just the opposite: an income tax but no sales tax.

Substantial savings can be had by living and working in Washington and paying no income tax and then crossing the Columbia River to do sales tax-free shopping in Oregon.

[kewlJ]

Substantial savings can be had by living and working in Washington and paying no income tax and then crossing the Columbia River to do sales tax-free shopping in Oregon.

People back in Philly used to do that with Delaware that had no sales tax. Especially when buying appliances and larger ticket items.

[MisterV]

Substantial savings can be had by living and working in Washington and paying no income tax and then crossing the Columbia River to do sales tax-free shopping in Oregon.

People back in Philly used to do that with Delaware that had no sales tax. Especially when buying appliances and larger ticket items.

For awhile we lived in south Jersey and both of my parents commuted to work in Philadelphia.

A total tax massacre: they paid the IRS, plus NJ income tax, plus Pennsylvania income tax and Philadelphia's own income tax, and of course sales taxes.

[AxelWolf]

Anyways, they still haven't graded this bet. Now I'm wondering if there was something off.

I don't know where to find archived boxing odds, but this site (proboxingodds dot com) has some limited info:



Caesars had your bet at the same +600 odds, and I see the fight was highly expected to require a decision. So it doesn't look like you had a +EV bet, and therefore I don't know why it hasn't been graded.

Should help your image though at the book .

Can you screenshot me or link me to the Caesars line? Apparently, they are investigating whether it was a bad line or not.

[Don Perignom]

Can you screenshot me or link me to the Caesars line?

Link to the 3rd party site, June 27th page:

https://www.proboxingodds.com/events/2025-06-27-2266

To see the props, click the props down-arrow far to the right of a fighter's name.

That's the screenshot I provided. I'm not aware of any availability of archived odds at the sportsbooks themselves.

I noted also that FanDuel had -900 on "fight goes to decision." Logically, that would indicate a very high probability of finishing OVER 8.5 (in a 10-round fight). Not that you'll get anywhere with logic.

[MDawg]

I was in Portland for a while, about 4 or 5 days ago, looking at some utility trailers. I should have hit you up, but I had lots of stuff I needed to do. Do you know if, when you buy something like that in Oregon, they hit you for the sales taxes in other states when you register it?

There's no sales tax in Oregon.

Yes, I know, thus the question. I was wondering if buying something that needs to be registered and licensed in another state, if they end up charging you the sales taxes you would have paid elsewhere, I know they charge you some type of extra fees, I just wasn't sure what they were.

When I have bought classic cars at auctions and then registered them in California, yes, of course I have to pay CA sales tax. That is the norm. However, I can assign pretty much any reasonable value to the sale, and pay sales tax based on my declared valuation. Sometimes DMV asks for a Bill of Sale, sometimes it does not, and for the most part, sellers are willing to play ball by supplying paperwork to back up any reasonable valuation. Or you may produce something yourself, if DMV even asks. That's the way it works in real life, even though DMV regs state that valuation must be proven via a Bill of Sale.

As far as whether any tax is due in the state of purchase on a vehicle that will not be maintained for any length of time and will not be registered in another state, usually no, but in some states it depends on whether the seller is private or a dealer, whether the buyer is in fact a resident of the state to which the vehicle will be brought, and in any case, most states will allow you to offset any tax paid in the state where purchased against the tax paid in the home state.

A.Wolf's philosophy is to to scrounge free information and never pay for any expert knowledge, but always take advantage of anyone who benefits in the slightest from anything he might know.

I don't like to badmouth anybody. But after reading this post, I see now that I am not alone in my opinions of axelwolf. Everyone held him in such high regards that I felt like I could blindly trust him. That was a mistake.

However in the end, I realize that I was just a piece of advantage that could easily be taken. That was the most important lesson that I learned.

A secondary A.Wolf maxim is to claim that "I could have figured that out myself" to justify why he should never pay anyone for information (after he has sidled up and asked for help, that is).

[Rob.Singer]

I was in Portland for a while, about 4 or 5 days ago, looking at some utility trailers. I should have hit you up, but I had lots of stuff I needed to do. Do you know if, when you buy something like that in Oregon, they hit you for the sales taxes in other states when you register it?

There's no sales tax in Oregon.

Yes, I know, thus the question. I was wondering if buying something that needs to be registered and licensed in another state, if they end up charging you the sales taxes you would have paid elsewhere, I know they charge you some type of extra fees, I just wasn't sure what they were.

I touched on this when we bought the Newell in Oregon but registered it at our S. Dakota home. We paid a 4% excise tax there, but if we were Oregon residents there'd be no tax. The big difference was with the registration cost. In Oregon, a $1.5mil rv costs around $30,000 to register the 1st year, decreasing slightly every subsequent year. While we paid a one time $60k tax at purchase, the yearly registration fee was just over $1000.

The out-of-state tax paperwork was what I was trying to explain about when some here claimed all kinds of nonsense over our having bought the Newell. The dealership (a used rv dealer--the 2011 was a year old) gave us a heap of paperwork with the purchase: warranty & exclusions, agreements, t's & c's for out-of-state buyers, and a whole host of other stuff. They also provided us with a short form generic sales agreement for use for out-of-state registrations. This is the one kew lied about being my signatures everywhere and others claimed wasn't real. On and on.

Anyone buying an RV: THOROUGHLY check and know all the regulations in the state or states you're dealing with, and incorporate plans on expected length of ownership and usage into your overall financial equation. And, contrary to what the vast majority of buyers do, never finance an RV.

[accountinquestion]

There's no sales tax in Oregon.

Yes, I know, thus the question. I was wondering if buying something that needs to be registered and licensed in another state, if they end up charging you the sales taxes you would have paid elsewhere, I know they charge you some type of extra fees, I just wasn't sure what they were.

I touched on this when we bought the Newell in Oregon but registered it at our S. Dakota home. We paid a 4% excise tax there, but if we were Oregon residents there'd be no tax. The big difference was with the registration cost. In Oregon, a $1.5mil rv costs around $30,000 to register the 1st year, decreasing slightly every subsequent year. While we paid a one time $60k tax at purchase, the yearly registration fee was just over $1000.

The out-of-state tax paperwork was what I was trying to explain about when some here claimed all kinds of nonsense over our having bought the Newell. The dealership (a used rv dealer--the 2011 was a year old) gave us a heap of paperwork with the purchase: warranty & exclusions, agreements, t's & c's for out-of-state buyers, and a whole host of other stuff. They also provided us with a short form generic sales agreement for use for out-of-state registrations. This is the one kew lied about being my signatures everywhere and others claimed wasn't real. On and on.

Anyone buying an RV: THOROUGHLY check and know all the regulations in the state or states you're dealing with, and incorporate plans on expected length of ownership and usage into your overall financial equation. And, contrary to what the vast majority of buyers do, never finance an RV.

Okey dokey, KewlJ.