The WoV Thread

[AxelWolf]

I wouldn't. But I read every line of every LVA multiple times since its inception until maybe 10 years ago. For the last 10 years, I have still read almost every line, but not in a timely and repeat manner. Very rarely did the LVA "out" a play in the sense that they were exposing some big secret. The LVA simply promulgated info that the casinos with the play wanted out in public space. In that sense, the LVA was acting as a PR billboard for casinos.

I read literally everything in every issue of the LVA multiple times. Very rarely, maybe a few times a year, was some Las Vegas angle or play reported in LVA of which I was unaware. I actually benefitted more financially from the LVA food and restaurant reportage than from their outing any gambling plays.

And since I'm not an "AP," if I knew about a play or promotion, then by definition it was "common knowledge." I didn't discuss anything with anybody in LV, but I was boots on the LV streets for a hundred days a year for decades. I didn't socialize or network much if at all. I kept almost completely to myself. If I knew about a play, then it was there to be seen; it was a common-knowledge play.

Yeah, the casinos wanted Curtis to publish the advantage plays in their joints. Thats a good one, ditz. You had no clue. You wouldnt know a good promotion if it bit you in the ass.

On the other hand, what the resident Montana casino expert suggests is that casinos provided coupons to the Advisor that were actually advantage plays because they did NOT want AC to publish advantage plays. And furthermore, AC, who depended on casinos for those coupons that were the main Advisor selling point, wanted to piss casinos off by publishing secret advantage plays in the Advisor.

In other words, mickey, do you ever actually think before you type?

Here's a suggestion. Instead of reflexively deciding to argue with whatever I write, pause, think for 30 seconds, then figure out if maybe I'm halfway correct.

Or wait, I can make it easy for you. Just do not respond because you rarely make any sense.

And as far as good promotions go, I really don't care if I could recognize any or not outside of sports-related ones. I never heard any tales of you murdering Monday Night football promos in LV, which I did almost every week. I probably knew the ins and outs more than AC, and that's all I really cared about.

And if you want to bite my ass, just say so. I'm not gay, as the shirt says, but $20 is $20.

Who says I can't find good "AP" opportunities (that's "Ass Promos" for those not in the know).

Aside from drawings, half vig, (rare no vig) 1/2-1 point extra, and iirc you could bet after the game started with some restrictions. What promotions were you murdering? When you say murdering, and since we have established that you think $40 a day is good money. What kind of money were YOU making for YOURSELF during your Monday night murdering?

[mickeycrimm]

I wouldn't. But I read every line of every LVA multiple times since its inception until maybe 10 years ago. For the last 10 years, I have still read almost every line, but not in a timely and repeat manner. Very rarely did the LVA "out" a play in the sense that they were exposing some big secret. The LVA simply promulgated info that the casinos with the play wanted out in public space. In that sense, the LVA was acting as a PR billboard for casinos.

I read literally everything in every issue of the LVA multiple times. Very rarely, maybe a few times a year, was some Las Vegas angle or play reported in LVA of which I was unaware. I actually benefitted more financially from the LVA food and restaurant reportage than from their outing any gambling plays.

And since I'm not an "AP," if I knew about a play or promotion, then by definition it was "common knowledge." I didn't discuss anything with anybody in LV, but I was boots on the LV streets for a hundred days a year for decades. I didn't socialize or network much if at all. I kept almost completely to myself. If I knew about a play, then it was there to be seen; it was a common-knowledge play.

Yeah, the casinos wanted Curtis to publish the advantage plays in their joints. Thats a good one, ditz. You had no clue. You wouldnt know a good promotion if it bit you in the ass.

On the other hand, what the resident Montana casino expert suggests is that casinos provided coupons to the Advisor that were actually advantage plays because they did NOT want AC to publish advantage plays. And furthermore, AC, who depended on casinos for those coupons that were the main Advisor selling point, wanted to piss casinos off by publishing secret advantage plays in the Advisor.

In other words, mickey, do you ever actually think before you type?

Here's a suggestion. Instead of reflexively deciding to argue with whatever I write, pause, think for 30 seconds, then figure out if maybe I'm halfway correct.

Or wait, I can make it easy for you. Just do not respond because you rarely make any sense.

And as far as good promotions go, I really don't care if I could recognize any or not outside of sports-related ones. I never heard any tales of you murdering Monday Night football promos in LV, which I did almost every week. I probably knew the ins and outs more than AC, and that's all I really cared about.

And if you want to bite my ass, just say so. I'm not gay, as the shirt says, but $20 is $20.

Who says I can't find good "AP" opportunities (that's "Ass Promos" for those not in the know).

You really ought to think a little before lashing out with ignorant shit, deetz. You’re talking nickel and dime coupons. Nothing worth hundreds of dollars per hour. And the Monday Night Football promos? You mean the hot dog and beer for a buck? What? Did you take advanage by having 3 of three of them?

AP’s dont care about nickel and dime shit getting exposed.

[mickeycrimm]

Deetz dont understand that AP’s dont care about nickel and dime shit getting exposed. But Remember Shack taking AP heat over the Revel promotion a dozen years ago? AP’s got pissed at him over the Plaza Tax Day promo too.

We’re talking major money. AP’s dont want Shack or Dancer or Curtis bringing added eyes to lucrative plays. It dont matter if the shit was published in the New York Times. AP’s that dont read NYT but read LVA find out about it and to many pigs wind up in the trough.

PS I guess Druff still hasnt gotten ditz’ credit report. You know, I’m starting to get suspicious.

[AxelWolf]

I don't think Anthony was publishing all the plays he came across, especially the semi-lucrative ones he was also playing. Perhaps it depended on how he came across the plays and who told him. I know there were a few lucrative bar plays we were both playing at, where it would seem unlikely, since there were only a handful of Advantage Players who knew about them. Had they been published, they certainly would have been flooded with Advantage players. You may correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe he only published The Blue Ox after he had some issues there.

Oddly enough, I don't remember ever seeing Anthony Curtis on any really big video poker or slot plays, like double jackpots, double Royals, bigger double four of a kind promotions, bigger loss rebate stuff. Most of the stuff I've seen him playing was local, smaller to medium plays. Now that might very well have to do something with it being a conflict of interest where he might want to get a coupon deal going and doesn't want to burn any bridges.