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  1. #161
    Trump is going off the rails about all sorts of stuff not related to Epstein.

    Johnson shuts door on House vote before September on releasing Epstein files.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...BingNewsBrowse

    This is the sort of shit that could give Elon a path to destroy Republicans.

    What is in these files? Why no leaks to the press? Couldn't Bondi just perjure herself - release bullshit - then if ever called out on it play dumb?

  2. #162
    I haven't seen a good source yet for what the White House thinking is about this (also the libel suit against the WSJ).

    There was a short National Review piece speculating that they want to keep the documents relating to Epstein secret to protect sources and methods, because either the CIA or allied agencies (e.g. Mossad or MI6) were using Epstein as a blackmail agent.

    Seems plausible enough but I haven't seen a hint of it from any actual source. Couldn't the Republicans hint at this?

    As far as the libel suit as far as I understand it Trump can't win on the merits even under the worst realistic outcome for the WSJ (that the letter or whatever it is was a forgery) because of the requirements of malice and knowledge. So maybe it's an attempt to get the WSJ to back down for fear of extrajudicial punishments (he's already excluded the WSJ from one of the press pools over this).

  3. #163
    This stuff is so easy even a misguided Trump-hater can see it. The Epstein nonsense is being kept alive by the media just to take the spotlight off of all the Trump wins. There's a very small minority of his MAGA base that really do want to know if there's really more to the story, but the bottom line is it's NOTHING compared to the Obama treason they're looking into.

    Who'd have thought: Gutfeld's absolutely KILLING all those boring non-funny libtards late night. Colbert's an asshole and Kimmel's a crybaby. Hahaha!

  4. #164
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    This stuff is so easy even a misguided Trump-hater can see it. The Epstein nonsense is being kept alive by the media just to take the spotlight off of all the Trump wins. There's a very small minority of his MAGA base that really do want to know if there's really more to the story, but the bottom line is it's NOTHING compared to the Obama treason they're looking into.

    Who'd have thought: Gutfeld's absolutely KILLING all those boring non-funny libtards late night. Colbert's an asshole and Kimmel's a crybaby. Hahaha!

    But the question is why they are not releasing the files.

  5. #165
    Originally Posted by smurgerburger View Post
    I haven't seen a good source yet for what the White House thinking is about this (also the libel suit against the WSJ).

    There was a short National Review piece speculating that they want to keep the documents relating to Epstein secret to protect sources and methods, because either the CIA or allied agencies (e.g. Mossad or MI6) were using Epstein as a blackmail agent.

    Seems plausible enough but I haven't seen a hint of it from any actual source. Couldn't the Republicans hint at this?

    As far as the libel suit as far as I understand it Trump can't win on the merits even under the worst realistic outcome for the WSJ (that the letter or whatever it is was a forgery) because of the requirements of malice and knowledge. So maybe it's an attempt to get the WSJ to back down for fear of extrajudicial punishments (he's already excluded the WSJ from one of the press pools over this).
    No, the defense will just pay it out as a form of a bribe. I believe this has already happened but I don't read news to the detail I did to have any specifics in mind.

    The US is already sinking but now we're starting to really accept corruption.

    But yea, I'm far from Mr conspiracy but I also would not be surprised at all if Epstein wasn't Mossad. I brought this up with gf that there is a distinct possibility of this. She started like making fun of me for being a conspiracy nut. uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

    Israelis might be pushing to not have it confirmed Epstein was Mossad. That could be it too.. I hadn't considered - I just assume it was the other people involved that were being hidden.

  6. #166
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    This stuff is so easy even a misguided Trump-hater can see it. The Epstein nonsense is being kept alive by the media just to take the spotlight off of all the Trump wins. There's a very small minority of his MAGA base that really do want to know if there's really more to the story, but the bottom line is it's NOTHING compared to the Obama treason they're looking into.

    Who'd have thought: Gutfeld's absolutely KILLING all those boring non-funny libtards late night. Colbert's an asshole and Kimmel's a crybaby. Hahaha!
    Wow you're a real legit living muppet.

    Why not just release the files. They're ducking and dodging to not release it after campaigning around it. You don't question that? pathetic. sheep extreme.

  7. #167
    Epstein's backstory on how he accumulated so much wealth is pretty crazy TBH. I mean there are exceptional people who also fall into exceptional situations. But read the guy's life story. He went from like tutoring rich kids to have islands and shit.

  8. #168
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    Check Epstein out on wiki...a real eye opener, lots of info there, including ties to Mossad.
    Last edited by MisterV; 07-22-2025 at 12:03 PM.
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  9. #169
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Check Epstein out on wiki...a real eye opener, lots of info there, including ties to Mossad.
    I have a circle of friends and they're all like.. must be mossad because they're literally anti-semitic.

    I mention how as a white guy - I hate how people blame the white guys for slavery when they TRADED something for existing enslaved and enslaved people on their own continent. That isn't to say that what any slavers did was right - but these sort of details seem to be skipped over when it is framed in general.

    Then these guys are all like 'most of the slavers were jews' and use AI to cross reference names on ship logs that were maintained with known jewish names. lol. I'm not sure I believe all their data/sources but .. Mickey then tells me these guys are liberal because they don't support Israel. doh doh doh. you tell me, Mick.

    I'm pretty sure they're more rightwing than Mickey the self-described "moderate".

    But reading over this stuff more - it is very possible it wasn't Mossad and was another intelligence agency. I can ask my sources if that was ever considered... ha

    I forgot Ghiselaine did have ties to Mossad it seems so it make the whole thing more likely to be Mossad ...

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    Epstein seems to have been clever,mysterious and charming.

    Very odd character, rising to the top of the NYC/ ihternational social scene the way he did.
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  11. #171
    Or possibly a joint asset. It seems possible but .. I guess Israel/Britain/US are closely aligned in interests enough for this to have worked. The weird thing in a few years the evidence they have will be more or less outdated because AI will have allowed any clip to have been created out of the matrix. interesting stuff..

  12. #172
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    I have a circle of friends and they're all like.. must be mossad because they're literally anti-semitic.
    How long have they been literally anti-semitic?
    Of all the deep searing pain--I remember crying as a small child in the way that proves deep, searing pain, the cry that only emanates from a shattered soul--this was somehow the worst suffering yet. Or maybe the accumulation of all the pain taken together?

  13. #173
    Originally Posted by Don Perignom View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    I have a circle of friends and they're all like.. must be mossad because they're literally anti-semitic.
    How long have they been literally anti-semitic?
    Good question. I know them as early adopters of crypto currencies. They are largely 30 to 40. Huge huge streak of conspiracy theorists. I guess that makes them susceptible to it? A few of them despise Indians. 'Jeets'. But 10 years ago I don't remember it. They're full on when amongst themselves. The only guys who sp3ak bad of trump are the guys who did ok in business outside of 9 to 5 grinds.

    Back when I first met then we had a shared distrust of government but they've went far out there. I value their views but constantly am biting my lip.

    They actually share a ton of views amongst themselves. Worried about white race not procreatibg.

  14. #174
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Good question. I know them as early adopters of crypto currencies. They are largely 30 to 40. Huge huge streak of conspiracy theorists. I guess that makes them susceptible to it? A few of them despise Indians. 'Jeets'. But 10 years ago I don't remember it. They're full on when amongst themselves. The only guys who sp3ak bad of trump are the guys who did ok in business outside of 9 to 5 grinds.

    Back when I first met then we had a shared distrust of government but they've went far out there. I value their views but constantly am biting my lip.

    They actually share a ton of views amongst themselves. Worried about white race not procreatibg.
    I wish I had based friends .
    Of all the deep searing pain--I remember crying as a small child in the way that proves deep, searing pain, the cry that only emanates from a shattered soul--this was somehow the worst suffering yet. Or maybe the accumulation of all the pain taken together?

  15. #175
    Bringing Mossad into this is a reach. Mossad doesn't help shape people or assist in their wealth-building; they use others as assets in the attainment of their goals. And those goals go far beyond anything showing up on TMZ or Entertainment Tonight. Think Hezbollah pagers or Munich Olympic retribution.

    In fact, they may be pulling the strings on kew and all his nonsense around here, in a covert attempt at weeding out the origin--and to determine the threat level--of his anti-semetic "baby bro".

  16. #176
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Bringing Mossad into this is a reach. Mossad doesn't help shape people or assist in their wealth-building; they use others as assets in the attainment of their goals. And those goals go far beyond anything showing up on TMZ or Entertainment Tonight. Think Hezbollah pagers or Munich Olympic retribution.

    In fact, they may be pulling the strings on kew and all his nonsense around here, in a covert attempt at weeding out the origin--and to determine the threat level--of his anti-semetic "baby bro".
    They would have set him up with so much wealth to get him in the right circles to do his thing. It wasn't charity. (If true)

    For a guy who claims (lol) to have worked for spooks you sure are naive.

    Connections Between Mossad and Jeffrey Epstein

    Below is a concise overview of the alleged ties—both substantiated and speculative—between Jeffrey Epstein and Israel’s intelligence service, Mossad.

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    1. Conspiracy Theory Origins

    - Right-wing commentator Tucker Carlson revived the theory that Epstein’s sudden wealth and elite connections could only be explained by covert backing, implying Mossad involvement. Carlson pointed to Epstein’s private jets, Caribbean island, and Manhattan townhouse as anomalies for a former teacher and cited Epstein’s numerous meetings with ex-Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak.
    - This theory has circulated widely on social media and among conservative circles frustrated by a lack of transparency in the U.S. investigations into Epstein’s network and death.

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    2. Robert Maxwell Connection

    - Ghislaine Maxwell’s father, media magnate Robert Maxwell, has long been rumored to have Mossad ties. Epstein’s close relationship with Maxwell—and later with Ghislaine—fuels speculation that Epstein shared or inherited some of those intelligence connections.
    - Investigative journalist Julie K. Brown notes that Maxwell’s alleged intelligence background and Epstein’s financial dealings with Maxwell create a plausible avenue for Mossad contact, though she emphasizes more evidence is needed.

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    3. Victim’s Court Filing

    - In a civil lawsuit against Epstein’s estate, “Jane Doe 200” claimed she was told by Epstein and Maxwell that Epstein was Mossad, allegedly as a tactic to intimidate and silence victims. This is a courtroom allegation, not a proven fact, but it has been cited by conspiracy theorists as “insider testimony”.

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    4. Alexander Acosta Rumor

    - A 2019 report claimed former U.S. Attorney Alexander Acosta told the Trump transition team that “Epstein belonged to intelligence.” Acosta has since denied those statements, and no public records corroborate his alleged comment about Mossad or other agencies shielding Epstein from prosecution.

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    5. Meetings with Israeli Leaders

    - Epstein met Ehud Barak dozens of times between 2013 and 2017, flying on his private jet and visiting his homes—even after Epstein’s 2008 conviction. Barak maintains their interactions were strictly business and scientific discussions, and has denied any intelligence collaboration.
    - No evidence has emerged that Barak’s meetings with Epstein involved Mossad or covert operations.

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    6. Official Denials and Investigations

    - Former Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett, to whom Mossad reports directly, has publicly stated with “100% certainty” that Epstein never worked for Mossad or any Israeli agency, calling the allegations “categorically and totally false”.
    - In July 2025, the U.S. Justice Department and FBI issued a memo finding no evidence of a “client list” or blackmail materials and reconfirmed there is no proof Epstein was an intelligence asset for any nation.

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    Summary of Evidence

    | Allegation Source | Claim | Status |
    |-------------------------------------|----------------------------------------------------------------|------------------------|
    | Tucker Carlson (MSN) | Epstein financially backed by Mossad | No proof |
    | Jane Doe 200 court filing (MSN) | Epstein told victims he was Mossad | Unverified allegation |
    | Acosta rumor (MSN) | Epstein “belonged to intelligence” | Denied by Acosta |
    | Robert Maxwell links (Newsweek) | Maxwell was a Mossad operative; Epstein close to Maxwell | Speculative |
    | Ehud Barak meetings (MSN) | Frequent social and business interactions | No intelligence link |
    | Naftali Bennett denial (TOI) | “Categorically and totally false” Epstein‐Mossad connection | Official rebuttal |

    ---

    Despite recurring rumors, no credible evidence has emerged linking Jeffrey Epstein directly to Mossad. Official statements from Israeli and U.S. authorities, court documents, and independent investigations have all failed to substantiate the Mossad asset theory. The idea remains a widely circulated conspiracy lacking verifiable proof.

    Ty ai. Yes a reach but also a definitively
    plausible conspiracy. Although it originated with Tucker which is a bit lol.

  17. #177
    Bbbwwwwaaahhhhh, a jewish judge has blocked the doj from releasing details from the Epsteins fille! But I'm sure it's just another cohencidence, hey hey!!!!

  18. #178
    Dershowitz says Epstein didnt work for mossad. Epstein stuuf starts at 6:20, mossad stuff stars at 14:00

    https://www.youtube.com/live/ZjNOVHo...QWTkP3yrQUh_ht
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  19. #179
    Dersho2itz provides names in the Epstein files

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  20. #180
    Russel Fox, gambling tax expert covers the new gamblers tax and also says the W2-G threshhold isn’t going up to 2K. He also says the reason for including the new gamblers tax in the bill (occam’s razor) was simply to raise revenue.

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