The truth about this degenerate industry

[jdaewoo]

Why isn't this retard pretending to gamble?

[AxelWolf]

. Everyone knows about the various ways team play can be utilized with blackjack etc. There are lots of times it is useful to work with someone. Doesn't mean you have to either.

But yea, you and Kewl knock yourselves out, brosephus.

"Everyone knows about the various ways team play can be utilized with blackjack" hun? I don't think YOU know shit about blackjack advantage play including team play. Team play in blackjack isn't even really a thing anymore. Not the way it was portrayed in the movies and book. Casinos are just waiting for teams to come along trying that "call-in" shit. Once or twice a month, a team shows up here in Vegas trying that shit and they last minutes....not even hours.

Any advantage blackjack players that remain, are solo player. or maybe a small "partnership" that doesn't play together. Playing different tables/casinos, just to smooth out variance, but that old blackjack team play you are familiar with is 1990's.

People like you, acctinQ crow about members of this forum that don't team up with people or meet people. Other people on these forums or discord, will and do sabotage other players, whether so called fellow AP or just trolls like Mdawg, who fed info about me to a casino. I think Zenking, a guy with his roots in solo blackjack play, is smart for not getting to close to some on these forums and platforms.

Sure there is some successful team play with all the machine stuff now....IF you are dealing with people you know and trust. But these forums are also full of trolls, haters and even just some that work or are associated with the other side. Don't make it sound like he (zenking) is the idiot for being cautious. And don't talk about blackjack advantage play like you have any clue about it.

ZenKing meets and networks with ALLLL KINDS OF PEOPLE. ZenKing has been to our Super Bowl parties filled with 40+ Advantage Players almost yearly.
So what the F are you talking about?

[kewlJ]

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ZenKing meets and networks with ALLLL KINDS OF PEOPLE. ZenKing has been to our Super Bowl parties filled with 40+ Advantage Players almost yearly.
So what the F are you talking about?[/QUOTE]

Did you even bother to read Zenking's posts? Or are you just here cherry-picking something I say to give me a hard time about?

ZK specifically is disillusioned with team type AP playing slots and machines. Isn't that most of the very people at your "parties". Seems like you are talking to the wrong guy about the situation.

But in the end...none of it matters. People should do what they are comfortable with and associate (or not) with who they are comfortable with. And again, I am sorry oif my view on that offends you. And don't tell me it doesn't, because you keep coming back at me with this shit.

[kewlJ]

. ZenKing meets and networks with ALLLL KINDS OF PEOPLE. ZenKing has been to our Super Bowl parties filled with 40+ Advantage Players almost yearly.
So what the F are you talking about?

Did you even bother to read Zenking's posts? Or are you just here cherry-picking something I say to give me a hard time about?

ZK specifically is disillusioned with team type AP playing slots and machines. Isn't that most of the very people at your "parties". Seems like you are talking to the wrong guy about the situation.

But in the end...none of it matters. People should do what they are comfortable with and associate (or not) with who they are comfortable with. And again, I am sorry oif my view on that offends you. And don't tell me it doesn't, because you keep coming back at me with this shit.

[AxelWolf]

Like I said, i believe your story more than most, but im just traumatized by the amount of bullshit ive been exposed to for a decade on these numerous forums, podcasts, circle jerk bja crews, and discords.

Keep at it.

If you are traumatized by the fucktards on these forums and discord (I never cared for discord) then why is it so hard to understand why someone like me wouldn't want to meet anyone from these platforms?

It has nothing to do with people on forums, Discord in casinos, or whoever. It's a Zenking personal issue/problem. He has some Problems, and even he knows it. He could remain as antisocial as possible, and he would still be "traumatized, and get himself into all kinds of trouble, I'm sure.

Heck, I have a feeling Discord and the forums actually helps him get into less real world more serious problems. And even if he wasn't into Advantage play there would be issues in whatever business or career path he chose.

[AxelWolf]

Like I said, i believe your story more than most, but im just traumatized by the amount of bullshit ive been exposed to for a decade on these numerous forums, podcasts, circle jerk bja crews, and discords.

Keep at it.

If you are traumatized by the fucktards on these forums and discord (I never cared for discord) then why is it so hard to understand why someone like me wouldn't want to meet anyone from these platforms?

It has nothing to do with people on forums, Discord in casinos, or whoever. It's a Zenking personal issue/problem. He has some Problems, and even he knows it. He could remain as antisocial as possible, and he would still be "traumatized, and get himself into all kinds of trouble, I'm sure.

Heck, I have a feeling Discord and the forums actually helps him get into less real world more serious problems. And even if he wasn't into Advantage play there would be issues in whatever business or career path he chose.

[accountinquestion]

The craziest thing is how he comes on this forum to insult the posters who are not even very likely to be on his discord(s).

He's like the AP version of Redietz.

[AxelWolf]

It doesn't offend me that you or anybody else doesn't want to associate with others or engage in any type of team play or networking. What's offensive to me is that you have very little experience with in-person team play and networking, but you're talking as if you know or have some type of good insight or authority on the subject, when you don't really have a clue.

You've gathered information from online and stories you've heard, and some "wise advice given to you by someone, and came up with your own conclusion.

For a somewhat normal person, the benefits are a significant financial gain. There are social benefits, fun camaraderie, and long-term friendships that develop that go outside and Beyond Advantage play.

You obviously seek community social engagement and some camaraderie, or you wouldn't be on these forums in the first place.


Now, one might be self-aware enough to know that they absolutely shouldn't meet with or engage with other Advantage players in person because they are prone to drama, causing issues, and having problems with others, where shit gets fucked up most of the time.

[MDawg]

UNKewlJ is an established phony is all there is to it.

[Rob.Singer]

Kew simply didn't plan right, just like with the phony stories he got caught making up in order to get attention.

OBVIOUSLY, anyone who's invested as much bj-reading time and online forum time as he has over these many years would have met at least one person who could vouch for him if he were for real. Even our late AP friend Rick--who was notoriously not into being very social and had no interest in online chatter or forums--became pretty well-known around the circuit. Why? BECAUSE HE WAS A REAL AP who's first goal was making money--and not just trying to convince FOR YEARS a slew of people on the internet that he did. He occasionally met people with similar aspirations at plays because that's what AP's do.

And you're right about all the other ancillary benefits of getting to know one another in the business. It can only enhance your overall life--and results.

[mickeycrimm]

What kind of team play are we talking about?

A team where everyone has invested money, shares the risk, and the proceeds are split accordingly?

Or a team where one guy is the boss, finances the operation, and everyone else is an employee working for wages and maybe a bonus?

[kewlJ]

How long are some of you haters and trolls going to keep up "The nobody has met KJ" stupidness? On this forum there are what 7-8 members that post regularly (daily) and a handful more that post occasionally. Some are trolls. Some are APs and some are both. And no I haven't met any of you. So we can stop with that. And I don't anticipate that I ever will. There are exactly 3 people on this forum that I wouldn't be opposed to meeting..mickeycrimm, axelwolf, Dan Druff....IF I had a reason to meet them. But I see no reason to meet someone just to have a beer and say hello. And I certainly have no interest in attending any kind of gathering with many people.

But the haters and trolls that say I haven't met anyone seem to rather conveniently forget that at WOV, where there are many more members and more APs, there are have been two different members that have stepped forward and said they have met me. How convenient to forget or not mention that.

I also have an AP friend that many people know or know of here in Vegas that does not participate either at WoV or here. He has a couple times asked me if I want him to come here, create an account to "vouch" for me. And both times I have said no. I would never ask anyone to come to this troll forum. Nor is there anything to "vouch" for. I am an AP that lives and plays Vegas that shares some of what I do on a couple forums. I am not applying for secret membership in some secret club that requires someone to vouch for someone. So no, I am not going to ask someone to vouch for me, so I can gain membership in the retard club.

Look, you don't need to meet someone, see them play, test them like teams do in blackjack, socialize with them, ect to know who knows what they are talking about. And if you trolls, haters and AP/trolls combos on this forum haven't figured out that I know what the fuck I am talking about when it comes to blackjack card counting and AP, it is only because you don't want to believe it. And someone "vouching" isn't going to change that anyway.

So y'all do your thing...the troll/hate thing and I will do mine. But there is no way in hell I am going to attempt to prove a damn thing to you nutjobs.

[smurgerburger]

Nobody has met KJ.

[DGenBen]

You mention that some of the people here are trolls, some are APs & some are both.

Do you think there is anyone here that is neither an AP or a troll?

[kewlJ]

You mention that some of the people here are trolls, some are APs & some are both.

Do you think there is anyone here that is neither an AP or a troll?

I don't know. MrV is not an AP. He is a recreational gambler. I don't consider him a troll, BUT he does some trolling.

Tasha, although she may occasionally do something small that is AP, I don't consider her an AP. Is she a troll? I don't know that either. Sometimes I think EVERYTHING about Tasha is an act (troll), other times I think she is genuine, just gullible.

Who else do you have in mind?

Dan Druff says there are people lurking, (associated with casinos). They would not be trolls or haters and not APs. But then again they don't participate either.

[MDawg]

That's not your only lie.

More importantly, you take questioning of these lies very personally, and actually get angry at anyone who dares suggest that you aren't being truthful. You get extremely upset by people not believing you.

Is this like the 10th time you've announced you're leaving? Why are you still here?

[accountinquestion]

Nobody has met KJ.

Ever.

in 10 years.

15?

[kewlJ]

Nobody has met KJ.

Ever.

in 10 years.

15?

Dude, this is a lie. Plain and simple. I haven't met any of the 8, 10, 12 people on this forum. And I won't. If you want to make a big deal of that go ahead. But there have been several people at WoV (a bigger forum with more members, that I have met and they have stepped forward and said so. I don't have the need to say who I have or haven't met so I wouldn't have done that, but they did. And that is fine.

But anyway, it doesn't fit your narrative, so just keep lying and being dishonest.

[kewlJ]

It cracks me up that people have a hard time with 2 things about me. 1) that I don't meet and socialize with other APs. As a solo player there just is no need to. And 2) that I have done what I have done in this town for 16 years now with only moderate heat, backoffs and 86ings (1 tresspass).

Just maybe the two are related.

[MDawg]

There is a clear trend that has developed now. All of KewlJ's implied associates are turning out to be other invented characters in his years of lies. ...RIP

At this point anyone who thinks FraudJ represents anything truthfully or factually correct is a fool.....RIP