Professional Sportsbetting

[redietz]

Too funny. You have no way to respond so you fall back to having briefly worked for a man decades ago. What I typed tracks pretty fucking close and you have yet again ignored my attempts at a real conversation via questions.

When you can't answer you go to crickets or Billy waters or Marc lawnremce's (a computer programmer btw) out of print booklet.


All facts

So let me get this correct. If Billy Walters hired me, because it was decades ago, whatever reasons he hired me for are not currently applicable. Okay, that would make me past tense. That's a reasonable argument.

Let me also get this correct. If I had the best or second best ATS record in The Wise Guys for a span of 20+ years, competing against a bevy of well-known handicappers and, in the case of Southern Comfort, pure gamblers, and I retired from that three years ago, then the intervening three years makes me dated. Okay, fair enough.

But I thought this was all about having sufficient data to go on? You know, years and years of plays and all that before anyone can evaluate someone's ability to make money betting sports.

Evidently, accountinquestion thinks not.

But that's okay. I won Week One this season, and Week Two, and Week Three, and Week Four. But I did lose Week Five.

I guess Week Five is what counts, according to account's professional evaluation.

Really, I'm a loser. I lost last week, and that's the evidence for it. I should retire (wait, I am retired). Well, I should double-retire then.

Thanks, account. I needed your clear thinking and AP insights to enable me to see the light. I appreciate it.

Meanwhile, how 'bout them Red Raiders? LOL. Not sure how long they'll last. They lost their QB last week.

I said nothing about any week. I don't care. I don't follow you closely. You and your riddle nonsense. Kim Lee seems far more sensible than you and his commentary tracked. I don't care about those publications. All the sports bettors I've known didn't either. Sure there are some big contests that people play kinda like WSOP and that definitely gives them bragging rights but outside of that? Who cares. Money speaks. All professional gamblers know this. The fact is you've been in this for decades and still asking for investment money. Something here is missing.

Again - since you managed to duck the below 6 times and counting - let me ask them again.

Isn't there a general consensus that tends to drive the money? A shared set of views outside those of the fans of either team (or pro bettors)? And would this sentiment which translates into wagered money have value in being labeled for discussions? Ie "the public"

Also if a trend wins for many years then redietz claims it will be corrected in the lines but what if the same mistakes are made by "the public" every year and the weakness in the lines helps the books in general? It does not follow that the trend would be corrected. It simply does not make sense to the books. Given how sharps are always being limtied/cut-off, it helps ensure that the vast majority of action is with the public. If the trends being discussed consistently help the books and hurt "the public" then why would they change it???

Let's be clear - since there seems to be more confusion. It isn't the games that have trends it is that the lines have trends. At least that seems to make more sense to me.

Why do we always hear about how Billy Waters hired you and never why he fired you?

I've actually told the Walters story while being interviewed by my filmmaker friend. We are saving it for a podcast because it's a good story with many gambling lessons and implications. Munchkin, surprisingly, while interviewing Walters for his Gambling Wizards book, came away with many of the same observation vis-a-vis Walters as I did.

If you don't understand the basic nature of bookmaking, buy a book. You got the process reversed or backwards in the post above. It's kind of scary that you think you know what you're talking about.

Sharps -- LOL -- do you wear a shirt that says "I'm a Sharp?" Do you carry Sharpies in your pocket protectors, you know, like an in-signal like hookers in LV wearing pink?

Read Munchkin's Gambling Wizards book, and you'll get a hint why, in general, people who win do not get cut off. Now we may get our bonuses slashed and promos cut, but very rarely will we actually be told to hit the dusty trail unless we are betting 50K a game or more. And sometimes we are told to hit the trail and then invited back.