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[kewlJ]

MisterV doesn't have much sense.

Actually my net worth is in excess of 200,000,000 cents.

Do you seriously think that a lightweight such as yourself has more cents than me?

Bwa ha ha ha...dream on.

This guy acctinQ has pretty much followed in redietz footsteps thinking he is smarter and has higher IQ than everyone else.

The guys that think they are the smartest in the room, NEVER are.

[kewlJ]

When you start to see a lot less over a significant number of trials....

How many trials are significant such that it would demonstrate a rigged shuffle?

How can you track a significant number of trials, if you are exiting the casino after showing your max bet?

How cute, coach belly STILL trying with his "gottch ya moments".

I tracked over 200 shoes at El cortez that I wasn't playing in. I don't know if shoes is the right word since we are talking double deck but EC DD is dealt from a shoe, so it works. But to be more specific over 200 times through the 2 decks until the shuffle.

I actually wasn't counting blackjacks like I mentioned earlier. That would be the easiest way to detect if the cards were arranged in anon-random way, but I was specifically looking for un-natural clumping, so what I did was count using hi-lo, every card just as if I was playing. I wanted to see how many of the "shoes" or times through the 2 decks went to either an unusually high or unusually low count. Depending on where the clump of 10 value cards were it could be either. (again read Dan Druffs excellent explanation as to this).

I then presented my findings to Don Schlesinger, who knows a thing or two about blackjack math. I believe 92% of shoes (maybe 94%, I forget) or times through the 2 decks reach a true count of either + or - 4. I knew that was way more than normal. Schlesinger confirmed as much. I think the normal range was 60 some percent.

Again read through Dan Druffs comments above to see just how clumping of 10 value can harm the player in a number of different ways. And that is before you get into the reduced blackjack from the section where there are fewer 10 value cards because of the clumping.

I really don't have a desire to go over this all again. I have moved on from it, although I still try to be vigilant when playing ASM.

In the end, what do I think I accomplished with exposing this. Well the 2 newer ASM (at the time) at El Cortez disappeared shortly after I made the post at Norms forum and someone else took the discussion to WoV. there were also a few other discussion and accusations of the same machines at around that same time, although not as detailed as the discussion I am responsible or linked to. And not to strain a muscle patting myself on the back, but together I think it may have slowed the spread of this activity. The small number of casinos that may have been willing to attempt to cheat in this manner, may have concluded it wouldn't be as easy to pull it off as they might have initially though.

Anyway, it is what it is. The next time some casinos have the opportunity to cheat blackjack or otherwise, (which has probably already occurred) probably at least some will do so. THAT is the nature of the business and who we are dealing with. All we as APs can hope for is to stay up to date and educated on the possibilities and be vigilant.

[coach belly]

I tracked over 200 shoes at El cortez that I wasn't playing in.

Can you explain the logistics of this tracking process?

Did you back-count over 200 shoes? How long did that take?

Wasn't it suspicious, for a frequent non-rated player to behave that way without drawing attention?

[kewlJ]

Took weeks. probably was suspicious, but so what? By the time I had decided to engage in this I was invested and determined to see it through. Either prove myself right or wrong. I would have been just as happy to have proven myself wrong as I did at South Point several years later when I though they were cheating in a different manner. If you begin to suspect you may have a dishonest game, you have to find out for sure. Either that or stop playing altogether.

[coach belly]

Took weeks.

That's too ambiguous to evaluate the viability of the process.

Did you keep track in a notebook?

[Rob.Singer]

And V, I also know exactly who kew is along with many details about him.

You too?

My inquiry to you is the same as to AIQ: HOW did you "learn" the salient details to establish his identity?

I don't really care what his name is; my interest is in learning how a man so intent on maintaining anonymity as KJ is somehow left enough bread crumbs that both you and AIQ followed him through the scary forest to the witch's hovel.

BTW, which one is Hansel and which is Gretel?

You see how nervous kew got V. That's how I know he knows that I know who he is etc. And how I learned about him isn't illegal. There was a warrant issued after he threatened to kill me (it would have been fun to see him try ). Can't say much more. When kew has to write multiple longass posts after being shaken like this, it ought to tell you why.

Kew is and has always been a phony, who lives his virtual life out on the internet. I had him pegged from the very beginning, which threw him sideways. Then he made the mistake of publicly threatening me. Why else do you think he just wants everybody to believe his lies about me.

[kewlJ]

There was a warrant issued after he threatened to kill me (it would have been fun to see him try ). Can't say much more.

Oh PLEASE! Freaking nut job.

What name was on the warrant and where was it served (what address) You have my permission to say. goofball.

One more. Can you post a picture of said warrant, so we can see if the signature is in the same handwriting as all 3 signatures on the Newell bill of sale. You know the one with no letterhead.

Is this warrant on a blank piece of paper too?

[accountinquestion]

Reprogramming a machine in an hour is LOL. Having a dedicated EE type person dissassemble it, reverse engineer it, reprogram it - is a whole different thing. The latter is possible but you are not smart enough to understand any of this and thus painted yourself in a corner like all bad bullshitters. You've bullshitted so much you confuse yourself.

Nobody has to disassemble, and reverse engineer anything. Where do you get this shit from?

I'll tell you what. As a starting point, watch some of the videos mickeycrimm posted right after the latest poker scandal broke involving these machines. With access to the machines the re-programing or altering can occur within minutes. the hard part is access to the machines. And in the case of altering being done by a casino or casino emplyee, that access is unfettered.

Those machines are regulated by gaming and highly proprietary. I saw the stuff on wired some time
Ago and no they got the thing to talk to them and acknowledge a usb connection or some shit. They never controlled it. I went to a very solid university and have EE and CS both in my degree. I understand this shit and you have but a foggy idea of the concepts. I had a job as a software architect for a fintech startup as last real job where I was paid by a sallary or hourly. And they fucked with it for weeks. It is likely the code is signed or requires physical access at the board level. Previously you acted like it was some mode or code that was hacked. You really have no idea.

I was a hacker as a kid before I sorta bored of computers and wasted my life away as a mediocre gambler.

You simply don't know enough to know what you don't know.

I'm not going to brag much I feel a need to counter your bullshit about me being a phoney or not knowing quite well what I speak about. I know gambling and code and can keep up with almost all convos outside of newer techs.

You're not going to make yourself look better by arguing with me.


Get help.

[smurgerburger]

I don't even know where to start with this 200 shoes business.

[kewlJ]

I don't even know where to start with this 200 shoes business.

Sorry smurger, unless you have something really interesting to add, I am not that interested in re-hashing something for 7 years ago, that is irrelevant to me now.

Not when Rob dropped a bombshell about a warrent for my arrest I am dying to hear about. (but of course won't)

[accountinquestion]

When you start to see a lot less over a significant number of trials....

How many trials are significant such that it would demonstrate a rigged shuffle?

How can you track a significant number of trials, if you are exiting the casino after showing your max bet?

How cute, coach belly STILL trying with his "gottch ya moments".

I tracked over 200 shoes at El cortez that I wasn't playing in. I don't know if shoes is the right word since we are talking double deck but EC DD is dealt from a shoe, so it works. But to be more specific over 200 times through the 2 decks until the shuffle.

I actually wasn't counting blackjacks like I mentioned earlier. That would be the easiest way to detect if the cards were arranged in anon-random way, but I was specifically looking for un-natural clumping, so what I did was count using hi-lo, every card just as if I was playing. I wanted to see how many of the "shoes" or times through the 2 decks went to either an unusually high or unusually low count. Depending on where the clump of 10 value cards were it could be either. (again read Dan Druffs excellent explanation as to this).

I then presented my findings to Don Schlesinger, who knows a thing or two about blackjack math. I believe 92% of shoes (maybe 94%, I forget) or times through the 2 decks reach a true count of either + or - 4. I knew that was way more than normal. Schlesinger confirmed as much. I think the normal range was 60 some percent.

Again read through Dan Druffs comments above to see just how clumping of 10 value can harm the player in a number of different ways. And that is before you get into the reduced blackjack from the section where there are fewer 10 value cards because of the clumping.

I really don't have a desire to go over this all again. I have moved on from it, although I still try to be vigilant when playing ASM.

In the end, what do I think I accomplished with exposing this. Well the 2 newer ASM (at the time) at El Cortez disappeared shortly after I made the post at Norms forum and someone else took the discussion to WoV. there were also a few other discussion and accusations of the same machines at around that same time, although not as detailed as the discussion I am responsible or linked to. And not to strain a muscle patting myself on the back, but together I think it may have slowed the spread of this activity. The small number of casinos that may have been willing to attempt to cheat in this manner, may have concluded it wouldn't be as easy to pull it off as they might have initially though.

Anyway, it is what it is. The next time some casinos have the opportunity to cheat blackjack or otherwise, (which has probably already occurred) probably at least some will do so. THAT is the nature of the business and who we are dealing with. All we as APs can hope for is to stay up to date and educated on the possibilities and be vigilant.

You're a good bullshitter but you get too much into details. This is the kinda well written bullshit thst had me repeating your nonsense. Even if you contacted schesslinger- your made up nonsense would have been believable to him.

See the big difference is these other guys tell tales and shoot for the moon. Your whole thing is to not have crazy tales and just be believable. There is a distinct differences in motivations if like you say Mdawg and Rob bs.

To this day no one had acknowledged meeting you who doesn't seem like another shit stirring troll like myself.

This is why I have a problem with it. I don't like to not knowing what I'm talking about. You were good enough to have me believing. You made me lose credibility. Those other guys IDGAF.

Get help.

[accountinquestion]

And V, I also know exactly who kew is along with many details about him.

You too?

My inquiry to you is the same as to AIQ: HOW did you "learn" the salient details to establish his identity?

I don't really care what his name is; my interest is in learning how a man so intent on maintaining anonymity as KJ is somehow left enough bread crumbs that both you and AIQ followed him through the scary forest to the witch's hovel.

BTW, which one is Hansel and which is Gretel?

You see how nervous kew got V. That's how I know he knows that I know who he is etc. And how I learned about him isn't illegal. There was a warrant issued after he threatened to kill me (it would have been fun to see him try ). Can't say much more. When kew has to write multiple longass posts after being shaken like this, it ought to tell you why.

Kew is and has always been a phony, who lives his virtual life out on the internet. I had him pegged from the very beginning, which threw him sideways. Then he made the mistake of publicly threatening me. Why else do you think he just wants everybody to believe his lies about me.

I wish I had listened to you earlier on. I jad to figure it out mostly on my own. The hard way.

Lol

[accountinquestion]

I don't even know where to start with this 200 shoes business.

Sorry smurger, unless you have something really interesting to add, I am not that interested in re-hashing something for 7 years ago, that is irrelevant to me now.

Not when Rob dropped a bombshell about a warrent for my arrest I am dying to hear about. (but of course won't)

Good idea. Smurger is a very knowledgeable AP. He was smart enough to skip card counting.

Counting is a great weekend warrior AP thing. Especially if you like to gamble. Infinite books out there. I couldn't and can't do it but for specific reasons I'm not going to get into. But EVwise it blows and no one stays Iin action like Kewl. You gotta drive around but of course kewl doesn't really do that. Too hard to bullshit. He can basically walk around LV all day and spend nothing.

[kewlJ]

You're a good bullshitter but you get too much into details. This is the kinda well written bullshit thst had me repeating your nonsense. Even if you contacted schesslinger- your made up nonsense would have been believable to him.

Just to be clear before Dawg or someone goes hounding Don S (<- see what I did there with "hound"). My conversation with Don that day was not specific to the ASM. I have no idea his feeling on that. The discussion was about the math. 'What percentage of shoes in a 2 deck, 60% pen game should reach TC +/- 4'? I did tell him what percentage of the games I tracked that I suspected clumping reached +/-4 and he confirmed that was way high.

[kewlJ]

You're a good bullshitter but you get too much into details. This is the kinda well written bullshit thst had me repeating your nonsense.

So I am a good writer now? A good writer of bullshit. Everyone knows I am NOT a good writer. I have a difficult time communicating what I want.

The fact is there is nothing to really write than needs good 'copy'. I am just telling my story, which is real which is why they usually come off believable except when people have a bias like you do.

Your later post about you should have listened to Rob Singer really says everything anyone needs to know about you. Fool.

Seriously, I am really interested to know how this crossover from normal poster on the forum to drinking the kool-aid and getting in bed with Singer/dawg works. Dietz did it and now you have done so.

I don't know what you are going through in your older age AcctinQ, but for God sakes STOP drinking the kool-aid.

[kewlJ]

There was a warrant issued after he threatened to kill me (it would have been fun to see him try ). Can't say much more.

Oh PLEASE! Freaking nut job.

What name was on the warrant and where was it served (what address) You have my permission to say. goofball.

One more. Can you post a picture of said warrant, so we can see if the signature is in the same handwriting as all 3 signatures on the Newell bill of sale. You know the one with no letterhead.

Is this warrant on a blank piece of paper too?

Still waiting Rob!!! tick tock.

In this country, the 6th amendment guarantees the right to confront your accuser. Rob has made the claim that there was a warrent issued for my arrest. he should have to fill in some details. I have that right. dan Druff should force him to or retract the statement as a lie.

[MDawg]

At some point you will realize you're dealing with a compulsive liar.

[kewlJ]

Full disclosure: I have requested that Dan Druff Make Rob produce this warrant and my name and where it was served. As the accused, I think I have a right to that, even though we all know it is more Rob Singer Bullshit.

[MDawg]

You think you've proven your case??? Absolute delusion.
To prove a case you must submit proof. But you never have and never will, remember?

Gentlemen, at this point I'm thinking kewl is bipolar. When these people are in a manic state they are often delusional.

[kewlJ]

In the words if DJT... "Quiet piggy". ( or maybe sand niggy).