On Believing KJ

[kewlJ]

You make like $70 an hour in EV. You don't need much to make this worthwhile and you get hte bonus of having me eat shit.

$70 an hour in EV? when did I say that? Currently I make about $200+ an hour in EV playing blackjack, depending on just how crowded and slow the game moves.

Even back when I was playing the local circuit I made over $100 an hour in EV. If I could find a heads up game with a decent dealer that could shoot up to $500 an hour, although I probably wouldn't be able to play for an hour.

You just don't understand anything about card counting or what I do. That is more than obvious.

Now if you are talking about some side, supplemental thing I might have do new that made $70 an hour, it is possible. For instance, when my partner was alive we used to hit Jerry's Nugget in North Las Vegas every Tuesday because we both would have either $50 Free bet and $50 match play or $25 free bet and a $25 match play. So that was small EV potatoes. for about 30 minutes of play, which would generate the same for the next months. So something like that maybe $70 an hour or less than my usual.


But I can see this is going no where, as expected. I gave you a chance. You have proven to be a coward and a troll, as expected.

[kewlJ]

These things always go the same way. One (loud mouth) party says "I can prove this or that about you and am willing to put up money". And then when you get into they back away and set conditions they know can't be met. This has been a Rob Singer staple for decades with these wagers. Changing conditions he KNOWS wont be agreed to.

This clown said "there are 18 things KJ said that are lies and I can prove it". he can't prove anything! I guess he thinks his saying he doesn't believe something is proof. Somebody buy this boy a dictionary.


I am done with you account in question. I have treated you respectfully for the most part despite all your accusations and lies about me and now my late partner. I have given you the opportunity to put up or shut up, and you have responded just as I and everyone else knew you would. Have a good life.

[kewlJ]

Can you believe this Bob Dietz is behind this feeding his fellow troll this shit. If Dietz wasn't 70 years old, while I am in my 40's I would kick his fucking ass. And he would deserve it. Fucking Bob Dietz. Sports betting TOUT!

[accountinquestion]

You make like $70 an hour in EV. You don't need much to make this worthwhile and you get hte bonus of having me eat shit.

$70 an hour in EV? when did I say that? Currently I make about $200+ an hour in EV playing blackjack, depending on just how crowded and slow the game moves.

Even back when I was playing the local circuit I made over $100 an hour in EV. If I could find a heads up game with a decent dealer that could shoot up to $500 an hour, although I probably wouldn't be able to play for an hour.

You just don't understand anything about card counting or what I do. That is more than obvious.

Now if you are talking about some side, supplemental thing I might have do new that made $70 an hour, it is possible. For instance, when my partner was alive we used to hit Jerry's Nugget in North Las Vegas every Tuesday because we both would have either $50 Free bet and $50 match play or $25 free bet and a $25 match play. So that was small EV potatoes. for about 30 minutes of play, which would generate the same for the next months. So something like that maybe $70 an hour or less than my usual.


But I can see this is going no where, as expected. I gave you a chance. You have proven to be a coward and a troll, as expected.

It is going places. You just said a bunch of random shit that was nonsensical and expect me to play along. I'm approaching it like a serious reasonable person.

I will admit I don't have what your hourly EV is but I recall you saying you made 70-100k a year. Which if you work forty hours is $40-$50 an hour. So I padded up it up to $70 but have no idea what the "math" you present is. So whatever - thats fine. You make $200 an hour.

Lets get back on subject.

Or you're too dumb to understand what proof is or that since you are putting forth the offer and no absolutely no one on here - it is up to you to put up your part of the money or it isn't a "bet". Furthermore you need to explicitely lay out the parameters of the bet.

All real gamblers understand these things...............

[accountinquestion]

These things always go the same way. One (loud mouth) party says "I can prove this or that about you and am willing to put up money". And then when you get into they back away and set conditions they know can't be met. This has been a Rob Singer staple for decades with these wagers. Changing conditions he KNOWS wont be agreed to.

This clown said "there are 18 things KJ said that are lies and I can prove it". he can't prove anything! I guess he thinks his saying he doesn't believe something is proof. Somebody buy this boy a dictionary.


I am done with you account in question. I have treated you respectfully for the most part despite all your accusations and lies about me and now my late partner. I have given you the opportunity to put up or shut up, and you have responded just as I and everyone else knew you would. Have a good life.

No Kewl, you are the one who said you want to bet and all this. SO lets bet but you need to put up the money. No one knows you. You have no credibility so it is on you to post first. I would suggest you define the paramters of your proof etc. Come'on, this isn't rocket science to anyone who is an actual gambler.

I've given you the chance to be respectful by admitting to your lies in private. Then I tell you to not bring up certain things and just stick with your math based life. You go off on the drunk stuff and all that and so here we are. Now you're screaming 'uncle uncle'. (or is it misterv, misterv !)

[kewlJ]

Lets get back on subject.

Ok lets start right HERE. You claim, over and over, I did not fracture my arm in the backroom incident. I can show hospital records from the same night, I was tresspassed and signed a trespass statement (don't know why I signed that....stupid). The records list the location of where the incident occurred.

Is that proof enough for you? How much are you willing to put up?

then we will move to the next issue and see how many we can agree to contest and go from there. But we start right here at the beginning.

[accountinquestion]

Can you believe this Bob Dietz is behind this feeding his fellow troll this shit. If Dietz wasn't 70 years old, while I am in my 40's I would kick his fucking ass. And he would deserve it. Fucking Bob Dietz. Sports betting TOUT!

lol. Redietz just sent me a random PM. I thought ti was funny. Never expected to hear from him. So I conveyed the message. Again, lets stick to the topic if you're serious. You're not going to do that so it doesn't matter. You know it.

[kewlJ]

This fucking guy (troll). You are going to drive me to drink, with your trolling, you troll.

I have some errands to run to pick up some things for Thanksgiving tomorrow.

I am done with you AinQ. I really am. You are fucking nuts as Singer/dawg. Maybe even more. You might be in Garnabby's league.

[smurgerburger]

Lets get back on subject.

Ok lets start right HERE. You claim, over and over, I did not fracture my arm in the backroom incident. I can show hospital records from the same night, I was tresspassed and signed a trespass statement (don't know why I signed that....stupid). The records list the location of where the incident occurred.

Is that proof enough for you? How much are you willing to put up?

then we will move to the next issue and see how many we can agree to contest and go from there. But we start right here at the beginning.

I thought your lawyer who reads this forum 24-7 forbids you to even speak of such things.

[accountinquestion]

Lets get back on subject.

Ok lets start right HERE. You claim, over and over, I did not fracture my arm in the backroom incident. I can show hospital records from the same night, I was tresspassed and signed a trespass statement (don't know why I signed that....stupid). The records list the location of where the incident occurred.

Is that proof enough for you? How much are you willing to put up?

then we will move to the next issue and see how many we can agree to contest and go from there. But we start right here at the beginning.

I'm not paying you to do anything. This is a bet, no? or you expecting me to put up money then you provide random proof ? A freeroll for a constant liar.

All this mentioned isn't particular proof as anyone can print up anything.

Find the original thread where we got you down to where you bought the shuffler when I pressed you. That'd be one spot you could show I'm wrong. If you said Ebay then we can look in your account or just give up as you're a known liar.

Mdawg, can you find the original thread about this shuffler? I could very easily be wrong about the Ebay aspect though but I know he said he got the guy to hack it in under 2 hours.

I can come up with a bang-up trespass with a days work and thats not even my area of expertise. Could hire a guy off fiverr to do it for $50.

You put this up so you need to post up.

This is goofy. You're pathetic. Get help.

[accountinquestion]

This fucking guy (troll). You are going to drive me to drink, with your trolling, you troll.

I have some errands to run to pick up some things for Thanksgiving tomorrow.

I am done with you AinQ. I really am. You are fucking nuts as Singer/dawg. Maybe even more. You might be in Garnabby's league.

Lol Kewl you're entertaining. You keep being you, lil feller.

Maybe seriously consider taking in MisterV under your wing. I think he'd like that <wink wink>

[kewlJ]

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I thought your lawyer who reads this forum 24-7 forbids you to even speak of such things.

I haven't mentioned anything I am not allowed to mention. No where today did I mention a casino by name. It probably, make that almost surely would be a violation if I were to show someone the settlement agreement. I would have to think about if I wanted to do that. But that isn't even necessary. AinQ keeps saying I didn't fracture (break) my arm. I can prove through hospital records that I did on the day in question.

[smurgerburger]

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I thought your lawyer who reads this forum 24-7 forbids you to even speak of such things.

I haven't mentioned anything I am not allowed to mention. No where today did I mention a casino by name. It probably, make that almost surely would be a violation if I were to show someone the settlement agreement. I would have to think about if I wanted to do that. But that isn't even necessary. AinQ keeps saying I didn't fracture (break) my arm. I can prove through hospital records that I did on the day in question.

So now you're saying you are allowed to show someone medical records indicating the casino at which your arm was broken? How does that make sense?

[accountinquestion]

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I thought your lawyer who reads this forum 24-7 forbids you to even speak of such things.

I haven't mentioned anything I am not allowed to mention. No where today did I mention a casino by name. It probably, make that almost surely would be a violation if I were to show someone the settlement agreement. I would have to think about if I wanted to do that. But that isn't even necessary. AinQ keeps saying I didn't fracture (break) my arm. I can prove through hospital records that I did on the day in question.

lol no you can't.

You've never brought up evidence you did anything ever in your entire history and you're not about to start. And if you do it'll be some photoshop job that we can't tie into any actual person.

[kewlJ]

So now you're saying you are allowed to show someone medical records indicating the casino at which your arm was broken? How does that make sense?

Yes, I think I can. The hospital records does not really go into the incident, which is what I can't talk about. Just gives a location where I sustained a fractured arm on the night in question.

[accountinquestion]

These things always go the same way. One (loud mouth) party says "I can prove this or that about you and am willing to put up money". And then when you get into they back away and set conditions they know can't be met. This has been a Rob Singer staple for decades with these wagers. Changing conditions he KNOWS wont be agreed to.

Where did I say i was willing to put up money? Please show us this. I would be very surprised.

Your confusion may explain this whole nonsensical episode. It was you who brought up money about proving anything. All I said is I have proof but I dont' have to prove ANYTHING! You say the same thing all the time. Do you not know that much?

Get help.

[kewlJ]

You've never brought up evidence you did anything ever in your entire history and you're not about to start. And if you do it'll be some photoshop job that we can't tie into any actual person.

You had your chance fucktard. You said you could prove something....18 somethings actually. I gave you a chance and you can't prove a damn thing. You are done.

[smurgerburger]

So now you're saying you are allowed to show someone medical records indicating the casino at which your arm was broken? How does that make sense?

Yes, I think I can. The hospital records does not really go into the incident, which is what I can't talk about. Just gives a location where I sustained a fractured arm on the night in question.

I'm wondering now if the genesis of your whole story was that you fell down doing who know what in a casino and got a fracture, then spun that into the infamous tale in question.

But that may be giving you too much credit here and maybe you're just completely bluffing and don't even have the broken arm record (which would of course not prove your story).

How about sending a link to some of the local media coverage instead?

[DGenBen]

Interesting.

I actually looked into it a little more and I’m reading that older wooden boards did used to be oiled because they were made of wood.

Apparently modern boards aren’t & haven’t been for a long time so apparently that’s why it sounds odd.

I guess you learn something new everyday.

DGenBen, I came across this movie last year when I was working an out of town play and killing time in the Motel one night. I posted it here about a years ago (well after any previous discussions about oiling a surfboard). You don't have to watch the movie as it is not very good, but check out the 1:10 mark for about 11 seconds while the opening credits are still running. I think you will find that interesting.


https://tubitv.com/movies/548886/new...SAAEgLc5PD_BwE

Interesting, yes it does appear to be oil and not wax. Maybe in Surfin’ USA instead of saying “We’re waxing down our surfboards” the Beach Boys could have also said “We’re oiling up our surfboards” lol.

[kewlJ]

How about sending a link to some of the local media coverage instead?

Yeah I fell down and broke my arm. Idiot!

The local coverage is the thing that I wanted to avoid. It lists my name. It is the sole reason, I deflected away with the lawsuit story. You think I am going to link to that? Stop this shit!

BTW, last I checked the link was no longer available. And I hope still not available. BUT that link did not show the backroom part of the story anyway. It showed what happened on the casino floor. The did mention the backroom and what happened but the video was of them taking me off the casino floor.

But that video did not come from our side. Again, that coverage is what I wanted to avoid.

So the other possibilities are that somebody in the casino shot some cell phone video while it occurred. It didn't look like cell phone video, but there is better quality cell phone video now a days.....maybe it was.

But my own theory, and this is just speculation on my part is that it came from the casino end. Not someone in management or that was involved, but some employee that had access that said "man this isn't right". That kind of thing.