ASM revisited again!

[coach belly]

No even close to true. It just isn't. You are trying to twist things all up.

It's true if we accept your original revised claim....

Our total FP played had to easily be several millions of dollars in FP played.

You twisted things up by revising your claim twice more, before settling on a number that lined up with an earlier claim...

I have always said that I averaged about 75-80K from blackjack for those years and another 20-25k from my share of our mailer VP machine play.

We can't rely on you to tell the truth about yourself, your stories change too much...the truth doesn't change.

So we look to the non-biased experts, who offer explanations for reasonable, believable scenarios.

[MDawg]

All you need to think about, besides the lies that were admitted or established conclusively (of which there were plenty), is the phrase, Beyond a reasonable doubt. V you should know this.

Take just the Villanova nonsense. Besides the repeated contradictions over whether she ever went to college or not, how many years and whether ever graduated (not even a good liar, can’t keep a story straight), we’ve got constant slips of poor grammar (doesn’t know the difference between words like affect and effect, threw and through), and rampant misspellings, including just above

that warrent

, and words like “despense,” "endorce," etc. These sorts of ignoramus mistakes are those of an uneducated high school dropout, not anyone who took any college let alone graduated from one.

Then take the MGM Execs story. First UNKewlJ claimed that he matched MDawg from personal identifying information and promised to disclose it. Then later claimed that no one ever gave him any personal identifying information, and certainly no name. Now, forgetting what she said before, she's returned to claiming that she does in fact have a name. Besides the fact that MDawg was never at any one casino for long in 2021 (or any other year), the absurdity of the story and that she can't even present it consistently, is just more proof of that she

can't help but insert fibs into your postings

such that

the entire thing comes crashing down

- Beyond a reasonable doubt.

For each and every lie UNKewlJ pours out there is sufficient contradiction and evidence to support beyond a reasonable doubt that she did in fact lie, and for many there are flat out admissions or absolute proof.



And lies aside - the obvious mental illness. UNKewlJ’s expressions of mania manifest via painful intensity followed by total confusion. Anyone

manually rephrasing the same old nervous essays over and over

like that at great length - all those 10X Multipliers - is suffering from mania. There is a manic force pounding in the UNKewlJ head that drives it to produce those sheets of text daily. This is not copy/paste, this is not AI automated, we are talking about

a broken brain

pounding out manually over and over sometimes even conflicting, versions of the same thing. Clearly manic depressive probably borderline schizophrenic, where the periods of depression are when she stalks off to shiver under the covers and hide from forum view (

I bid you farewell.

).

Anyone glancing through even a bit of the sheets of text UNKewlJ spews daily knows this to be true. We’re not dealing with someone who is all there and the

pathological lying.

is but a symptom of the obvious mental illness.

The proof is in the pudding as to both the lies and the mental illness. There is nobody here who may objectively deny the existence of both.

[kewlJ]

I am done arguing with Kewl for the forseeable future. I wish him luck in his endeavors and just hope he sticks with the math and grinds it up.

If this is an apology, I don't accept. You made an accusation that I lied 18 times and you could prove it and you have and can prove zilch. Nada. I am not trying to be a dick and embarrass you, but at the very lest You should apologize and say you got carried away repeating Mdawgs trolling.

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On the subject of this thread, that you for some reason don't want me to talk about, I learned in the past couple days that there is actually a rather large class action lawsuit being prepared against Light & Wonder, (formerly scientific gaming) that now owns shufflemaster. It may take some time but they are working on it. They began working on the case sometime after the 2023 Blackhat convention here in Vegas where two members of the IOActive group successfully demonstrated the hijacking capability of a DeckMate machine through the USB port.

The recent poker scandal has renewed the issue and adds further proof, even though the hacking was in private games and not in the casino environment.

Additionally there are several lawsuits already underway, one might have been thrown out recently by players in different jurisdictions alleging cheating because the casino kept playing even after being alerted by the DeckMate shuffler that there were cards missing. In Pennsylvania, Sugarhouse Casino was fined 100K by gaming for this violation.

The remarkable thing is the whole excuse for why camera are in these machines is so they can detect missing cards and yet they kept playing after being notified of a short deck on multiple occasions in different casinos and locations. That almost proves the reasoning goiven for these cameras is complete bullshit.

[MDawg]

A non-ap, bulls-shits artist like the kewl-J should keep his fucking mouth shut when it comes to calling other the "poser", hey hey. The reason why the little bitch tuck tail and run from my challenge is that he doesn't want to be exposed. Not only can he not count two 21 table, accurate at the same times he is not even able to count a single 21 table, as he is a total fraud. that's why he has NEVER backed up any of his stupid claim, and he never will, hey hey!!!!

[accountinquestion]

I am done arguing with Kewl for the forseeable future. I wish him luck in his endeavors and just hope he sticks with the math and grinds it up.

If this is an apology, I don't accept. You made an accusation that I lied 18 times and you could prove it and you have and can prove zilch. Nada. I am not trying to be a dick and embarrass you, but at the very lest You should apologize and say you got carried away repeating Mdawgs trolling.

On the subject of this thread, I learned in the past couple days that their is actually a rather large class action lawsuit being prepared against Light & Wonder, (formerly scientific gaming) that now owns shufflemaster. It may take some time but they are working on it. They began working on the case sometime after the 2023 Blackhat convention here in Vegas where two members of the IOActive group successfully demonstrated the hijacking capability of a DeckMate machine through the USB port.

The recent poker scandal has renewed the issue and adds further proof, even though the hacking was in private games and not in the casino environment.

You couldn't even show where the thing was "hijacked". They got the thing to speak to them but they never controlled it externally. Pretty sure that didn't happen so once again you're just making up bullshit to try and sound like some outsider but you read about this somewhere and regurgitate it as fact. I'd be surprised if you can reference this class-action outside of referring to some insider bullshit like you always do.

Don't you realize everyone clowns on you and those who don't basically do it out of pity or possibly out of some desire to not help mdawg?

You are severely mentally ill and need help.

I'll apologize to you after you apologize for making up the whole shuffler story along with all your other lies.

So of course I'm not going to apologizse to some mentally ill clown who can't take the hint and just agree to drop it for their own good. You've lied far far far more than 18 times. I was just trying to say as clearly as possible I was NOT going to keep correcting your lies. Just let you be and get on the pity wagon. Do you not understand that?

You also don't begin to know how simple you are.

According to you there was no "hacking" in the casino environment and one can buy a random shuffler and it has these modes built in. You don't understand your own lies. Just compulsion...

but at least outside of the internet you have all these people showing up at your door with documents in hand and all these high-level APs which none of the other high-level APs on here know... wanting to network with you. You just don't do it online but.. somehow.. somewhere.. you know these people. I guess you run across them while counting red/green chips?

Good god you are awful.

Honestly - the fact that you go back to this like a day later to stir up shit just shows how mentally broken you are.

Never in all my years have I heard of anyone hitting 100k jackpot on a normal spin that wasn't consider highlimit. Nor has apparently anyone else as they haven't raised their hand. They feel sorry for you. Rubbish. You've lied far more than 18 times. You lie constantly. You lie in threads constantly when quoting people.

Gosh you must have had an awful time growing up. I've never heard of someone so throughly bullied - have a "bully" tell them they'll stop bullying them then have the person go taunt them to resume the bullying. That is because you desire for attention trumps everything else. Lol at your recent projecting on Redietz. I have no idea what his motivation is but your projection is fantastic.

Get help. Seriousy.

One more thing - the only way you embarass me is by existing and thus me responding to such a lowly ass person. Your life must utterly suck for you to be motivated to start shit back up. Deal with it.

[kewlJ]

I am done arguing with Kewl for the forseeable future. I wish him luck in his endeavors and just hope he sticks with the math and grinds it up.

If this is an apology, I don't accept. You made an accusation that I lied 18 times and you could prove it and you have and can prove zilch. Nada. I am not trying to be a dick and embarrass you, but at the very lest You should apologize and say you got carried away repeating Mdawgs trolling.

On the subject of this thread, I learned in the past couple days that their is actually a rather large class action lawsuit being prepared against Light & Wonder, (formerly scientific gaming) that now owns shufflemaster. It may take some time but they are working on it. They began working on the case sometime after the 2023 Blackhat convention here in Vegas where two members of the IOActive group successfully demonstrated the hijacking capability of a DeckMate machine through the USB port.

The recent poker scandal has renewed the issue and adds further proof, even though the hacking was in private games and not in the casino environment.

You couldn't even show where the thing was "hijacked". They got the thing to speak to them but they never controlled it externally. Pretty sure that didn't happen so once again you're just making up bullshit to try and sound like some outsider but you read about this somewhere and regurgitate it as fact.

Don't you realize everyone clowns on you and those who don't basically do it out of pity or possibly out of some desire to not help mdawg.

You are severely mentally ill and need help.

I'll apologize to you after you apologize for making up the whole shuffler story along with all your other lies.

yes I did in fact look it up after I had a conversation with a friend that seems to know and be following what is going on. That is called "researching" fool.

Now in the other thread you made a comment that you were not going to fight and argue with me anymore, which I quoted. THAT lasted what about 2 hours, until I made reference to what is going on with this deckMate shuffle machine that CAN be altered and hacked.

What is going on here? Do you have some interest or ties to this company that you go balistic every time I mention it. There are discussions about what is going on and what is capable happening lots of places/forums at present time, especially after it the poker scandal renews interest.

Dan Druff shares my exact concerns, as he has expressed in discussions at PFA (one of the few times we have been in agreement on something). Funny how you haven't gone after him like you do me.

[MDawg]

Junior psychologist AccountinQuestion continues with the slicing open of the UNKewl one, yes, like a fish!

[jdaewoo]

This retard is a closeted homosexual.

[kewlJ]

Ever since I went public about what I know and did to prove to myself about the shuffle machine situation, people have said what I claim couldn't possibly be true because it would destroy a billion-dollar company. BUT that may be how it all ends up anyway. At least some kind of protective bankruptcy.

In addition to the lawsuits about the illegal aspects of the shuffle machine, there are also anti trust law suits against the company for monopolizing the market. Those lawsuits have been filed by at least two different groups of casinos, not players.

I don't know....if you have stock in Light & Wonder, you may want to make some adjustments.

[accountinquestion]

If this is an apology, I don't accept. You made an accusation that I lied 18 times and you could prove it and you have and can prove zilch. Nada. I am not trying to be a dick and embarrass you, but at the very lest You should apologize and say you got carried away repeating Mdawgs trolling.

On the subject of this thread, I learned in the past couple days that their is actually a rather large class action lawsuit being prepared against Light & Wonder, (formerly scientific gaming) that now owns shufflemaster. It may take some time but they are working on it. They began working on the case sometime after the 2023 Blackhat convention here in Vegas where two members of the IOActive group successfully demonstrated the hijacking capability of a DeckMate machine through the USB port.

The recent poker scandal has renewed the issue and adds further proof, even though the hacking was in private games and not in the casino environment.

You couldn't even show where the thing was "hijacked". They got the thing to speak to them but they never controlled it externally. Pretty sure that didn't happen so once again you're just making up bullshit to try and sound like some outsider but you read about this somewhere and regurgitate it as fact.

Don't you realize everyone clowns on you and those who don't basically do it out of pity or possibly out of some desire to not help mdawg.

You are severely mentally ill and need help.

I'll apologize to you after you apologize for making up the whole shuffler story along with all your other lies.

yes I did in fact look it up after I had a conversation with a friend that seems to know and be following what is going on. That is called "researching" fool.

Now in the other thread you made a comment that you were not going to fight and argue with me anymore, which I quoted. THAT lasted what about 2 hours, until I made reference to what is going on with this deckMate shuffle machine that CAN be altered and hacked.

What is going on here? Do you have some interest or ties to this company that you go balistic every time I mention it. There are discussions about what is going on and what is capable happening lots of places/forums at present time, especially after it the poker scandal renews interest.

Dan Druff shares my exact concerns, as he has expressed in discussions at PFA (one of the few times we have been in agreement on something). Funny how you haven't gone after him like you do me.

I have actually given specific times where I strongly suspect I was cheated by a rigged machine but it was some clearly manipulated poker version.

I have no idea what you're going on about. That leads you to believe I have interest or ties to the company? You are losing it, pure and simple.

For poker - All you need to do is have a table of cold-decks given the number of players and receipient. The thing spits out that cold deck... then someone is stacked. Or in my case trap me between hi/lo. It is all fairly simple to do algorithm wise and requires so communication outside of telling the shuffler which set of cold-decks to use and have it never repeat the same one twice. 9 positions of the winner and 9 positions of the receipient to maximize the stacking. Then like 52 bytes per cold-deck. It takes up so little memory. Whatever .. lol.. it all goes over your head. Who cares.

You can't even consistently stick in your own reality that you have created.

Get help.

[accountinquestion]

Ugh why am I responding to such a weirdo. Why couldn't he just drop it. He isn't embarassing anyone outside of himself.

also sorry to everyone for the typos/wrong words. I fail to spend any time polishing or rereading a post responding to such a person.

I was never going to apologize Kewl nor have I been repeating Mdawg's trolling. Singer and Mdawg are so in your bring they're half of what you fall back on when being examined. "hey miiiister - look at htese guys. They are the REAL liars'.

[MDawg]

Don't you realize everyone clowns on you and those who don't basically do it out of pity or possibly out of some desire to not help mdawg?

[kewlJ]

AcctinQ, I am wondering if you have some (financial) interest because you just go ballistic at mention of the shuffle machine cheating, which clearly they can do or be manipulated to do.

I don't play poker, and the cheating by these machines while different for Poker and blackjack is also linked because if the machine can be altered for poker, then it can for blackjack as well. Since you are an experienced poker player, if you think you have been cheated in the past, I would imagine that you probably have. Because they have THAT capability. That is what this is all about.

I don't have a financial interest in this right now. I did when I lost some money at 2 different casinos, but that is long past and I don't at the moment. I mean maybe at some point there will be opportunity for players that think they were cheated to join in a class action type suit, but you know what people end up getting in a class action type suit....about $3.64. I wouldn't even bother.

Let me ask you this account. Singer and Dawg do nothing but attack and name call. Being nothing but trolls they are incapable of engaging in any kind of discussion without immediately going to the attacks and name-calling. Why do you have to stoop to that level, with all the attacks and "get help" shit. Is that really who you are? A Rob Singer/Mdawg type troll.

I don't care if you don't agree with me on whatever topic....it isn't necessary to do that. It is trolly and childish and just being an asshole. And yes, I eventually return fire when people attack me over and over, so I accept some blame I guess. But it doesn't have to be this way. And if you think grown men attacking one another and calling each other names is funny and entertaining, then there is something not right with you.

[kewlJ]

Account, you have several times now expressed a desire for some kind of truce to all the arguing. Only to immediately start up again. I think you owe me an apology, even if it is something mild, like "hey I got carried away, repeating Mdawgs trolling".

But I will accept a truce without you doing so. I won't respect you as much, but I will accept it.

[MDawg]

You are severely mentally ill and need help.

You also don't begin to know how simple you are.

[Rob.Singer]

Kew keeps posting his self-confidence building nonsense because he's aware his lies and BS aren't getting through to anybody. And the only thing he's successful at convincing anyone of is that he fabricates a phony online existence. His "I'm a REAL bj pro & a REAL winning AP" doesn't get any traction except within his own confused and uneducated mind, and those few who try hard to stick up for his lying only do so because they hate mdawg so deeply.

Even a caveman can see it.

[accountinquestion]

Account, you have several times now expressed a desire for some kind of truce to all the arguing. Only to immediately start up again. I think you owe me an apology, even if it is something mild, like "hey I got carried away, repeating Mdawgs trolling".

But I will accept a truce without you doing so. I won't respect you as much, but I will accept it.

I have 0 need for your respect so this works but I have one more thing to say. I didn't immediately start it back up until you go look for something and talk about me "embarassing myself" and needing to apologize. Of course I'm going to explain what I feel the situation is. Perhaps all the real professional APs who you are in a brotherhood with disagree with me and agree with you - but shrug.

[accountinquestion]

AcctinQ, I am wondering if you have some (financial) interest because you just go ballistic at mention of the shuffle machine cheating, which clearly they can do or be manipulated to do.

I don't play poker, and the cheating by these machines while different for Poker and blackjack is also linked because if the machine can be altered for poker, then it can for blackjack as well. Since you are an experienced poker player, if you think you have been cheated in the past, I would imagine that you probably have. Because they have THAT capability. That is what this is all about.

I don't have a financial interest in this right now. I did when I lost some money at 2 different casinos, but that is long past and I don't at the moment. I mean maybe at some point there will be opportunity for players that think they were cheated to join in a class action type suit, but you know what people end up getting in a class action type suit....about $3.64. I wouldn't even bother.

Let me ask you this account. Singer and Dawg do nothing but attack and name call. Being nothing but trolls they are incapable of engaging in any kind of discussion without immediately going to the attacks and name-calling. Why do you have to stoop to that level, with all the attacks and "get help" shit. Is that really who you are? A Rob Singer/Mdawg type troll.

I don't care if you don't agree with me on whatever topic....it isn't necessary to do that. It is trolly and childish and just being an asshole. And yes, I eventually return fire when people attack me over and over, so I accept some blame I guess. But it doesn't have to be this way. And if you think grown men attacking one another and calling each other names is funny and entertaining, then there is something not right with you.

Everyone knows the machines have the potential to cheat people given their hardware capabilities. People have been talking about this since the day those deckmates came into use. This is absolutely nothing new or interesting.

I have yet to see a demonstration of hackers taking over the shuffler by remote means without literally modifying the hardware. This is 2 totally different things. A company is not responsible for a third party illegally modifying their machine. This is why I scoff at the idea of a class-action and INDEED class actions very much ask for plaintiffs to join their class of action. So what this means is it should in no way be hush hush and you should be able to point to this lawsuit in California. So please do. I think many of us would find it interesting. If you can't, then you must realize this is but another nonsensical thing.

If I had a financial interest why would I go around telling my story verifying that some version of the shufflers have been cheating from FIRST HAND experience. And my story can be verified by complaints of other high limit pros at the same time and place. Yes, it sounds like you but unlike you I have no desire to sit around and try to establish credibility.

What I do want is for people to listen to me if I bother to say something. I don't care to be part of some AP brotherhood particularly. It was interesting at one point in life but driving around casinos by yourself is a bit miserable and lonely and frankly grows old. I could find some gambling junky gf I suppose but meh.

The reason I go ballistic is because you keep at it. You aren't pushing the other aspect of your story - you are now ignoring that. The aspect where you hacked the shuffler in 15 minutes via some random which implies an off the shelf shuffler has these cheat modes built-in. Thats just not how a 1 billion dollar company would operate. Your story was something I went around and talked about somewhere. Something like "I have it on good authority". This is because you spend a decade of yourlife lying JUST to fit in and be believable. Not because you wanted to tell some fantastic entertaining story. You're a different breed of liar. You got me, I don't like that, I asked you to fess up in private and you told me to 'fuck off'.

Frankly I question to what degree you start to believe your own lies. I can understand someone wanting to fit in but I'm starting to suspect you come to believe your new reality. You are possibly crazier than anyone ever imagined. It isn't important just to convince others - you've just as much convinced yourself. It is all tehse behaviors which anyone approaching normal doesn't partake in and why you'd be better served seeking help. You're probably a lost cause but it would be a good start.

BUt hey, if you want to tell me how you don't want me embarrass me. (I mean that might be a thing if I actually respected MisterV much. He's a doof. Harmless. Not a bad guy but his embracement of racism kinda puts him out of the good guy category) You also expect me to apologize. You're the one who had me going around lying about these shufflers in the casino. Perhaps those stories you related were true but it shifted so much just like everything else. Then you layered onto it where it is uequivicably a lie. Recently you said you backcounted 200 shoes in the sweatiest casino in LV in relation to this lie. All from a guy determine to be undercover forever in LV.

An expert in MCing told me even another reason why your $50 into $100k story doesn't work but I won't divulge it because meh.

It is all.. just.. old. And if you want to continue this charade and you will until you no longer can - then go ahead.

Watch - I will ask about this class action lawsuit and you're unlikely to have any online reference even though it would be widely publicized because thats the point of class actions.

[kewlJ]

I wrote this:

On the subject of this thread, that you for some reason don't want me to talk about, I learned in the past couple days that there is actually a rather large class action lawsuit being prepared against Light & Wonder, (formerly scientific gaming) that now owns shufflemaster. It may take some time but they are working on it. They began working on the case sometime after the 2023 Blackhat convention here in Vegas where two members of the IOActive group successfully demonstrated the hijacking capability of a DeckMate machine through the USB port.

And AcctinQ responded with these two comments from the same post:

. So what this means is it should in no way be hush hush and you should be able to point to this lawsuit in California. So please do. I think many of us would find it interesting. If you can't, then you must realize this is but another nonsensical thin.

Watch - I will ask about this class action lawsuit and you're unlikely to have any online reference even though it would be widely publicized because thats the point of class actions.

The case is being PREPARED. I only leaned of it a couple days ago. And you want me to point to the case in California, like I am part of it or something. I don't know anything about California, nor when this case will be filed. When it is, it will be big news and we will all hear about it, especially those in the gambling community and those around Vegas. And from everything I know, class-action cases move very slowly and we will be hearing about it for years and years.


But I am done with you accountinQ. You read things and fly off the handle and then attack and name call, just like the other trolls, like Singer and dawg. Must be in the first chapter of the troll playbook. I have tried to be respectful to you and you insist on being a troll and asshole.

[MDawg]

One thing you can tell, when UNKewlJ makes with the all bold sentences one after another something has really gotten to him. You can practically see the hand cocked onto his side, the bent elbow and the high pitched whiny voice complaining, "Now wayyyyt a minute, Misterrrrr."