ASM revisited again!

[accountinquestion]

I wrote this:


And AcctinQ responded with these two comments from the same post:

Watch - I will ask about this class action lawsuit and you're unlikely to have any online reference even though it would be widely publicized because thats the point of class actions.

The case is being PREPARED. I only leaned of it a couple days ago. And you want me to point to the case in California, like I am part of it or something. I don't know anything about California, nor when this case will be filed. When it is, it will be big news and we will all hear about it, especially those in the gambling community and those around Vegas. And from everything I know, class-action cases move very slowly and we will be hearing about it for years and years.


But I am done with you accountinQ. You read things and fly off the handle and then attack and name call, just like the other trolls, like Singer and dawg. Must be in the first chapter of the troll playbook. I have tried to be respectful to you and you insist on being a troll and asshole.

Yep, just like I thought. You can't actually give any reference to something that would otherwise be public. It is all your back channel hush hush bullshit. Again, you just don't understand how the world works. Like all these other highly probable things. You presumably will claim to know of this through some private contact of APs but no other AP on here will be able to verify. Then you'll explain how you never want to interact or network with APs. Again this is all just exceptionally unlikely. Well beyond exceptional. It resides in the land of fantasy.

It would be losing players who would be part of this class action. Not some AP that says "Hey I didn't win money as this casino". Or something.. like.. I don't care to see you even flail about coming up with excuses to be believable. You just can't help yourself and when you're in a pinch for a bit more believability salt to sprinkle on your bullshit you wander off into something you know so little about because you haven't obessesively read about it for 10-20 years.

I tried being done with you some time ago and made a small succint post making it pretty clear. Then you went off on how you didnt' want to embarass me and demanding an apology. It is a joke man. You don't deserve anything more. People need to be protected from your nonsense more than Mdawg and Singer because whether an RV or double-up bug - it has NO relevance on anyone's life. You and your fantasies that you try so hard to have people believe do have that potential.

Get help. I have a business to run. I know you'll say you're done with me but you've made so many of these proclaimations in the past.

Congrats on becoming the forum mascot.

[accountinquestion]

One thing you can tell, when UNKewlJ makes with the all bold sentences one after another something has really gotten to him. You can practically see the hand cocked onto his side, the bent elbow and the high pitched whiny voice complaining, "Now wayyyyt a minute, Misterrrrr."

Now in color !

BTW bought my first tourbillon the other day. I'm interested to put it on my timegrapher at different angles to see how it performs.

[MDawg]

Tourbillon. Awesome.

The reality is that the issue with wrist watches being able to run accurately at different angles was solved long ago, so tourbillons today are more about appreciating the craftsmanship.

Can you imagine what an empty dull personality UNKewlJ has? No knowledge of film, arts, literature, constantly lying about everything, desperate for attention. Never once has she even mentioned anything about technology, or even a phone that she just bought. Just, empty manic

SChiZoPHreNiC UNKewl PYsCHo babble

Let's face it it though, UNKewlJ has spent most of his life in places where he is unwanted - even booted from his own familial homestead. There is really no question that he is this dislikable in person. I believe that so far as his "casino associates" being figments of his imagination, so is anyone he wants to refer to as friends. Someone like this would just be exhausting to hang around with all his constant lying, woe is me victimization, and then pretending that he doesn't care if he is liked, believed or not.

He's been booted from different forums too. At this one, Dan Druff is nice enough to not ban hammer him but at the same time, makes it clear that he finds him objectionable and would lose no sleep over his departing for good. But UNKewlJ stalks off sulking for a while and then returns, pretending like he doesn't get the hint.

And again it comes back to that UNKewlJ has no pride and doesn't mind hanging in places where even the owner is at best ambivalent about whether he stays or goes.

Mental illness is also part of the answer to why he keeps coming back.

[jdaewoo]

This retard is a closeted homosexual.

[Rob.Singer]

Kew, you're punching way out of your weight class. You've never been able to understand that your contradictions, obvious embellishments, changing stories, and hypocrisy are the reasons your phony stories are dismissed so easily by those more qualified than you.

Perhaps if you had someone with an education proofread your BS you might be able to pull the wool over some eyes. But your obsession with instant gratification compels you to make glaring mistake after glaring mistake, leading you into arguments with higher caliber posters where you bury yourself even further as you become entrapped in your own bullshit.

And I LIKE it!!

[MDawg]

Really the Villanova fiasco is instructive of this

a broken brain

you are referencing there Rob.Singer.

She went to SUCH LENGTHS to defend the fact that she never had an education,

You haters like to call me uneducated because I didn't have the opportunity to go to college as I had planned. That came to a crashing halt when my stepfather kicked me out of the house while I was a senior in high school. I lived in a homeless shelter and took two buses to school just to finish high school. Henry Ford and many other successful people didn't go to college. Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Dick Cheney, Mark Zuckleberg, and Oprah Winfrey all did not finish or graduate college. I am not comparing myself to any of them, but my field is professional gambling, professional blackjack play. You don't go to college for that. I have gotten my education from some of the greatest blackjack players, both living and dead. And I think I have done pretty well. Over 1.5 million in total advantage play as of this year, 1.25 million from blackjack and card counting in my 18 years. While that may not be get "rich money", it is hardly a failure.

of course tossing in the fable of how much she has made at blackjack, which is exactly the same sort of nonsense - providing a lie to try to back up the inherent lie of even being a card counter in Vegas and not a male prostitute, and then, after a period of time suddenly shifted the story to being not just a college graduate but a Villanova graduate, thereby blowing the cover of "I made up a lie to protect myself." (How is disclosing the ACTUAL college you attended and the EXACT years,

My time at Villanova was 2001 though the end of the 2003 fall semester

"protecting yourself.").

We see this constantly in all she does - makes up some B.S. and then when the story isn't getting the "traction" she had hoped, comes up with some absurd lie like the MGM Execs handing her MDawg player records on Halloween, stories, to try to back up the nonsense, constantly contradicting herself along the way ("I matched MDawg with his name!" "No, I never had his name and never said I did, I just matched him based on it's gotta be he." "Wait a minute people, I do have his name and may post of picture of him!")

Just look at the detail of that story about WHY UNKewlJ never went to college. Getting kicked out of the house, the homeless shelter, and the defense listing all the successful people she could find to back up why going to college isn't important.

And then - boom - a few years later when this lying chameleon decides to morph into something else, she becomes a Villanova graduate. Or maybe someone who just attended Villanova for a 3 years. Or maybe just 1. She doesn't seem to be able to decide. Same way she can't decide exactly how to present any of her lies.

Bottom line is this pathological liar can't even keep his lies straight.

The entire forum knows you have an issue with pathological lying.

you can't help but insert fibs into your postings

[MDawg]

Executive summary:

Don't you realize everyone clowns on you and those who don't basically do it out of pity or possibly out of some desire to not help mdawg?

[accountinquestion]

Tourbillon. Awesome.

The reality is that the issue with wrist watches being able to run accurately at different angles was solved long ago, so tourbillons today are more about appreciating the craftsmanship.

Yea, that and I guess with pocket watches they tended to always sit at the same angle relative to gravity. I bought it but haven't went down the rabbithole of trying to understand how it works. Successful smart people like to appreciate fine things because there just isn't that much else to do. Some of us purchase expensive watches while some of us purchase expensive card shufflers to delve into.

[Keystone]

The amount of do-nothing, limp dicked, no pussy getting losers on this forum especially one that is a practicing attorney/high roller/wealthy beyond belief, is quite amazing….humorous, but amazing that a nobody like KewlJ occupies the time, and rents real estate in so many urine soaked, tiny craniums of so many

Carry On Jerkoffs, didn’t mean to interrupt your productive days!!! lolololololol

[MDawg]

Tourbillon. Awesome.

The reality is that the issue with wrist watches being able to run accurately at different angles was solved long ago, so tourbillons today are more about appreciating the craftsmanship.

Yea, that and I guess with pocket watches they tended to always sit at the same angle relative to gravity. I bought it but haven't went down the rabbithole of trying to understand how it works. Successful smart people like to appreciate fine things because there just isn't that much else to do. Some of us purchase expensive watches while some of us purchase expensive card shufflers to delve into.

Yes exactly pocket watches were designed to run accurately when hung at that same angle. People were supposed to keep them at that same angle including when placed inside a watch pocket.

The early wrist watches were simply smaller pocket watches and couldn't handle the constant movement into different angles, until the tourbillon came along to compensate for that movement, and keep them accurate at all angles.

But today, as I mentioned, mechanical wrist watches are accurate with or without the tourbillon, so it is just about buying something that represents up to a year of watchmaking just to put it together.



Those are two of my tourbillons, on the left a Breguet in platinum, on the right a Cartier in rose gold.

Once you get to a tourbillon, I suppose the next step up would be a minute repeater. Perpetual calendars are also coveted, but less expensive than tourbillons.

For the most part a tourbillon watch has only that "complication" on it, although Blancpain and others like Roger Dubois have combined it with other features. I have a Franck Muller that has both a tourbillon and a chronograph. Minute repeaters are sometimes combined with a perpetual calendar, a moonphase, a chronograph, and even other complications.

[jdaewoo]

This retard is a closeted homosexual.

[Rob.Singer]

Tourbillon. Awesome.

The reality is that the issue with wrist watches being able to run accurately at different angles was solved long ago, so tourbillons today are more about appreciating the craftsmanship.

Yea, that and I guess with pocket watches they tended to always sit at the same angle relative to gravity. I bought it but haven't went down the rabbithole of trying to understand how it works. Successful smart people like to appreciate fine things because there just isn't that much else to do. Some of us purchase expensive watches while some of us purchase expensive card shufflers to delve into.

Yes exactly pocket watches were designed to run accurately when hung at that same angle. People were supposed to keep them at that same angle including when placed inside a watch pocket.

The early wrist watches were simply smaller pocket watches and couldn't handle the constant movement into different angles, until the tourbillon came along to compensate for that movement, and keep them accurate at all angles.

But today, as I mentioned, mechanical wrist watches are accurate with or without the tourbillon, so it is just about buying something that represents up to a year of watchmaking just to put it together.



Those are two of my tourbillons, on the left a Breguet in platinum, on the right a Cartier in rose gold.

Once you get to a tourbillon, I suppose the next step up would be a minute repeater. Perpetual calendars are also coveted, but less expensive than tourbillons.

For the most part a tourbillon watch has only that "complication" on it, although Blancpain and others like Roger Dubois have combined it with other features. I have a Franck Muller that has both a tourbillon and a chronograph. Minute repeaters are sometimes combined with a perpetual calendar, a moonphase, a chronograph, and even other complications.

This post oughta torque keystoner and the noodle slurper.....

Do card shufflers come with tourbillon movement?
(Thought I'd ask before kew alters his story in that direction)

[accountinquestion]

The amount of do-nothing, limp dicked, no pussy getting losers on this forum especially one that is a practicing attorney/high roller/wealthy beyond belief, is quite amazing….humorous, but amazing that a nobody like KewlJ occupies the time, and rents real estate in so many urine soaked, tiny craniums of so many

Carry On Jerkoffs, didn’t mean to interrupt your productive days!!! lolololololol

Just think about the guys who are compelled to just show up and post nothing of any value. No real interaction. No nuthin'.

The guys you complain about are basically the only reason the forum still exists.

It is like the guy who pulls over on the side of the road, rolls down his window, points his finger at some homeless guys, laughs, then drives off feeling charged up.

At the end of the day - who is the bigger loser? It is a serious question. At least the homeless guys know where they're at in life.

[accountinquestion]

Tourbillon. Awesome.

The reality is that the issue with wrist watches being able to run accurately at different angles was solved long ago, so tourbillons today are more about appreciating the craftsmanship.

Yea, that and I guess with pocket watches they tended to always sit at the same angle relative to gravity. I bought it but haven't went down the rabbithole of trying to understand how it works. Successful smart people like to appreciate fine things because there just isn't that much else to do. Some of us purchase expensive watches while some of us purchase expensive card shufflers to delve into.

Yes exactly pocket watches were designed to run accurately when hung at that same angle. People were supposed to keep them at that same angle including when placed inside a watch pocket.

The early wrist watches were simply smaller pocket watches and couldn't handle the constant movement into different angles, until the tourbillon came along to compensate for that movement, and keep them accurate at all angles.

But today, as I mentioned, mechanical wrist watches are accurate with or without the tourbillon, so it is just about buying something that represents up to a year of watchmaking just to put it together.



Those are two of my tourbillons, on the left a Breguet in platinum, on the right a Cartier in rose gold.

Once you get to a tourbillon, I suppose the next step up would be a minute repeater. Perpetual calendars are also coveted, but less expensive than tourbillons.

For the most part a tourbillon watch has only that "complication" on it, although Blancpain and others like Roger Dubois have combined it with other features. I have a Franck Muller that has both a tourbillon and a chronograph. Minute repeaters are sometimes combined with a perpetual calendar, a moonphase, a chronograph, and even other complications.

Yes, a minute repeater is something I would like. I'm not really trying to spend much money though so I have to limit my purchases. I believe a "lucky harvy" has a minute repeater. https://luckyharveywatch.com/collections/chiming-watch They refer to it as a chiming watch. $2000. My big problem with watches is just the servicing. Quartz watches end up having less maintenance in the true long run even if you have to change the battery every 2 years.

They make a lot of watches. hmm. Wonder if their movement is in-house or what... oh well I need to get back to work I can't start and keep beating up on poor Keystone.

[AxelWolf]

I'll take that as another "yes, coach...that is correct"

however, that would take a very special situation, or it would require multiple cards or take a long time over a lot of casinos. And don't ask me to guess how long that would take using only one or two cards, over how many casinos. I don't care to think about it.

I accept your expert opinion in that regard.

tewlj claimed to have generated $1.5M in FP over 8 years through VP.

Is it reasonable to expect a $800K loss on $3M coin-in on VP?

Would an AP on the mail play, run his coin-in on VP with that RTP?

I haven't been following the back-and-forth conversation between you and KJ. I couldn't figure out why you were stuck on the millions in free play aspect. I was mostly only reading posts where I was directly quoted. I don't know exactly what KJ said. Can you please link me to or quote the relevant posts so I can take a look?

FYI are the numbers I was talking about were NON-VP plays. With a few exceptions for smaller amounts of coin-in, you wouldn't get anywhere near that percentage of free play on VP. And I was talking about NEW CARDS, and I believe everyone understands that new cards/players normally get a lot more free play during their first cycle as a new sign-up.

Obviously, losing 10% after playing 1.5 million coin-in on small to medium denomination machines would be crazy. I don't know what he said, how it was phrased, or in what context. Again, please link me to the relevant posts.

PS. I don't know the exact percentage, but over the last 10 years or so of playing, probably only about 20% of my play has been on normal video poker. A majority of building offers has been on slots and various other games and some different versions of video poker.

[MisterV]

The mechanical watch industry used to "rule the roost" before the advent of quartz aka battery powered watches, typically manufactured in Asia.

Seiko et al nearly administered a death blow to the "esteemed" Swiss watchmakers as they offered inexpensive, nice looking, reliable, low maintenance time pieces that typically were more accurate than mechanical watches.

So now mechanical watch owners get them not to tell the time but to wear as an accessory, to say "I made it, I'm wearing money on my arm."

Mechanical watches are quite cool, with all the complications, tiny gears, springs etc. but they're wholly unnecessary: simply an affectation.

I own several mechanical watches, btw.

[coach belly]

please link me to the relevant posts.

Getting several million in FP is just another kew pile of BS. His stories never add up. If he had the resources to get "millions in FP" he wouldnt be fabricating stories about "winning $100k in bj year after year after year".

That's what I wrote earlier, if his total FP was easily several millions of dollars, then he would have made more money from 8 years of FP mail play, than in 20+ years of Blackjack.

Of course the amount of FP changed several times in this thread....

probably earned and played 100's of thousands of dollars in FP between the two of us. .

Our total FP played had to easily be several millions of dollars in FP played.

whatever that amount, a million, million and a half in Free play

First lets move that number back to 1.5 million. And that isn't me changing the story. As I explained roughly off the top of my head figuring the number of mailers we received each month and the amounts of the offers, I said 2 million.

His wheel of lies finally landed on 1.5M, so he back-filled the data to make that number line up with the earlier lies he told.

I have always said that I averaged about 75-80K from blackjack for those years and another 20-25k from my share of our mailer VP machine play.

[kewlJ]

Interesting. What we have here is that I explained the small VP mailer play that my partner and I played for about 8 years until his passing. Coach belly, forever looking for a "gottchya moment" to prove me wrong Then grilled Axelwolf about running free play, hoping to find some contradiction or "space" between what AW said and what I said. And there was some, which I just chalked up to my partner and I not being the most efficent at the play we were doing, which I always knew and accepted.

But it turned out Axelwolf, unaware of the game belly was playing or what he was up to, just gave answers about a very experienced AP running FP on slots......NOT EVEN VP like we were doing. It was like comparing apples to watermelon. And Belly used that comparison to try to discredit me. In the end it came back to belly playing games at it always does.

Thank you Axelwolf for clarifying what you were talking about, which is NOT the same thing Belly tried to disprove. In the end it comes back to the same question: why does any real AP engage with these trolls? And the answer is that few do.


Unrelated and not that it matters, but the BLUE font that I used in the post about acctinQ's quotes, was simply to easily distinguish between what I was saying and what acctinQ quotes were. With so many of us reading on our phones it is easy to miss that distinction, which in this case was most important. So sue me. Add that to Dietz's lawsuit and Singer arrest warrent. What a fucking forum.

[accountinquestion]

The mechanical watch industry used to "rule the roost" before the advent of quartz aka battery powered watches, typically manufactured in Asia.

Seiko et al nearly administered a death blow to the "esteemed" Swiss watchmakers as they offered inexpensive, nice looking, reliable, low maintenance time pieces that typically were more accurate than mechanical watches.

So now mechanical watch owners get them not to tell the time but to wear as an accessory, to say "I made it, I'm wearing money on my arm."

Mechanical watches are quite cool, with all the complications, tiny gears, springs etc. but they're wholly unnecessary: simply an affectation.

I own several mechanical watches, btw.

Mechanical watches themselves aren't that expensive. You can get a quartz watch for $5 and a mechanical for like $20. There is far more to it than what you want to think. I don't know what you mean by "rule the roost" as they were the only type of watches.. like horses "ruled the roost" before automobiles?

Yes if you have boundless money there are watches out there that are incredibly expensive.

Not sure why you put esteemed in quotes, lol.

Quartz watches are boring .. Mechanical watch wearers are people who want to wear a watch but appreciate other various aspects. If you're going to make a beautiful watch dial/case/band/bracelet then why put in a boring quartz movement? It is not particularly different from cars. shrug. I don't care about cars. They take up a lot of space and are just very wasteful. The nice thing about watches though is .. the majority of people have no fucking clue about watches. You drive a fancy car and everyone knows.. just screams out. A watch is so more subtle and people who like them tend to be more thoughtful than some random gearhead loser like Singer.

Thinking about this further - my Tesla is much like a quartz watch. Maybe one of these days some rich guy will have an ICE car just for the sake of an ICE car.

[smurgerburger]

Interesting. What we have here is that I explained the small VP mailer play that my partner and I played for about 8 years until his passing. Coach belly, forever looking for a "gottchya moment" to prove me wrong Then grilled Axelwolf about running free play, hoping to find some contradiction or "space" between what AW said and what I said. And there was some, which I just chalked up to my partner and I not being the most efficent at the play we were doing, which I always knew and accepted.

But it turned out Axelwolf, unaware of the game belly was playing or what he was up to, just gave answers about a very experienced AP running FP on slots......NOT EVEN VP like we were doing. It was like comparing apples to watermelon. And Belly used that comparison to try to discredit me. In the end it came back to belly playing games at it always does.

Thank you Axelwolf for clarifying what you were talking about, which is NOT the same thing Belly tried to disprove. In the end it comes back to the same question: why does any real AP engage with these trolls? And the answer is that few do.


Unrelated and not that it matters, but the BLUE font that I used in the post about acctinQ's quotes, was simply to easily distinguish between what I was saying and what acctinQ quotes were. With so many of us reading on our phones it is easy to miss that distinction, which in this case was most important. So sue me. Add that to Dietz's lawsuit and Singer arrest warrent. What a fucking forum.

You would have better, not worse ROI if you were using VP rather than slots to generate. If you are trying to make some other point here I do not see what it is.

And incidentally playing VP to generate and slots to redeem is a choice not easily explained.