Will they adjust pay tables in 2026?

[coach belly]

I also remember Rob saying he didn't play on players cards or deal with players clubs.

Time passes...things change.

[Rob.Singer]

A players card proves NOTHING about whether a player won or hit jackpots or who owns the house they live in. It PROVES they gamble and nothing else. Just the same as a stack of cash and/or chips proves nothing about whether a player won or lost.

Why do you guys do this shit. Do you really think you are fooling anyone at all. Everyone on this forum knows what a players card means and doesn't mean.

BBBBBUUUUTTTT....I thought you said I have no money, and I gambled our retirement away!

Care to adjust that lie?

I NEVER said you don't have some retirement income. I doubt it is the amount you claim, but your wife worked her whole life and you worked half your life until you started gambling, so you both should be receiving SS (her's higher than yours).


Here is the facts Rob. You aren't required to prove anything about any of your ridiculous claims. NOTHING. But if it is/was so important to you to do so, you could have done so at any time in the last quarter century with real documents that would really prove something. You have never done that. Instead, you have attempted to prove things by some means as ridiculous as the claims themself. And each time you do, your "proof" is proven to be fake or made up. EACH and EVERY time!

So in a sense your attempts to prove your ridiculous claims, actually disproved them and proves you made it up in the eyes of every member here.

And Rob, all of that, claims and attempts at proof and all the name calling are just the actions of a troll...a guy who has trolled the gambling community, particularly real winning players for more than a quarter century. Do you really think posting a picture of a players card changes any of that? No wonder you are drinking beer at 6am.

But gee kew, you like to say I'm broke because....BECAUSE YOU SAY SO!!! Now you're backtracking, just like every liar on the face of the earth does when they get caught in a lie. But I guess we all know that casinos just hand out their top cards with no play required, right?

Oh by the way, I also have a top card I never use anymore. Legend, from Circa, and it was issued for my lifetime--play or no play. Care to guess why?

Here's a way to retrieve a bit of the credibility you lost on your BS. You're constantly arguing with mdawg and everyone about your fabricated "I play above red & green chips guys!" crap. You MUST have a collection of colorful cards--top level every last one of them. You spend hours and days trying to convince everyone how you're the real deal. So go ahead, drop us in our tracks like I just did you. Post a few of those big shot cards!

[accountinquestion]

BBBBBUUUUTTTT....I thought you said I have no money, and I gambled our retirement away!

Care to adjust that lie?

I NEVER said you don't have some retirement income. I doubt it is the amount you claim, but your wife worked her whole life and you worked half your life until you started gambling, so you both should be receiving SS (her's higher than yours).


Here is the facts Rob. You aren't required to prove anything about any of your ridiculous claims. NOTHING. But if it is/was so important to you to do so, you could have done so at any time in the last quarter century with real documents that would really prove something. You have never done that. Instead, you have attempted to prove things by some means as ridiculous as the claims themself. And each time you do, your "proof" is proven to be fake or made up. EACH and EVERY time!

So in a sense your attempts to prove your ridiculous claims, actually disproved them and proves you made it up in the eyes of every member here.

And Rob, all of that, claims and attempts at proof and all the name calling are just the actions of a troll...a guy who has trolled the gambling community, particularly real winning players for more than a quarter century. Do you really think posting a picture of a players card changes any of that? No wonder you are drinking beer at 6am.

But gee kew, you like to say I'm broke because....BECAUSE YOU SAY SO!!! Now you're backtracking, just like every liar on the face of the earth does when they get caught in a lie. But I guess we all know that casinos just hand out their top cards with no play required, right?

Oh by the way, I also have a top card I never use anymore. Legend, from Circa, and it was issued for my lifetime--play or no play. Care to guess why?

Here's a way to retrieve a bit of the credibility you lost on your BS. You're constantly arguing with mdawg and everyone about your fabricated "I play above red & green chips guys!" crap. You MUST have a collection of colorful cards--top level every last one of them. You spends hours and days trying to convince everyone how youths real deal. So go ahead, drop us in our tracks like I just fid you. Post a few of those big shot cards!

I don't care to guess why because I have 0 clue. Why do you have a lifetime card at Circa of the highest tier? Let us pathetic envious types sit back in awe at your coolness.

[Rob.Singer]

I NEVER said you don't have some retirement income. I doubt it is the amount you claim, but your wife worked her whole life and you worked half your life until you started gambling, so you both should be receiving SS (her's higher than yours).


Here is the facts Rob. You aren't required to prove anything about any of your ridiculous claims. NOTHING. But if it is/was so important to you to do so, you could have done so at any time in the last quarter century with real documents that would really prove something. You have never done that. Instead, you have attempted to prove things by some means as ridiculous as the claims themself. And each time you do, your "proof" is proven to be fake or made up. EACH and EVERY time!

So in a sense your attempts to prove your ridiculous claims, actually disproved them and proves you made it up in the eyes of every member here.

And Rob, all of that, claims and attempts at proof and all the name calling are just the actions of a troll...a guy who has trolled the gambling community, particularly real winning players for more than a quarter century. Do you really think posting a picture of a players card changes any of that? No wonder you are drinking beer at 6am.

But gee kew, you like to say I'm broke because....BECAUSE YOU SAY SO!!! Now you're backtracking, just like every liar on the face of the earth does when they get caught in a lie. But I guess we all know that casinos just hand out their top cards with no play required, right?

Oh by the way, I also have a top card I never use anymore. Legend, from Circa, and it was issued for my lifetime--play or no play. Care to guess why?

Here's a way to retrieve a bit of the credibility you lost on your BS. You're constantly arguing with mdawg and everyone about your fabricated "I play above red & green chips guys!" crap. You MUST have a collection of colorful cards--top level every last one of them. You spends hours and days trying to convince everyone how youths real deal. So go ahead, drop us in our tracks like I just fid you. Post a few of those big shot cards!

I don't care to guess why because I have 0 clue. Why do you have a lifetime card at Circa of the highest tier? Let us pathetic envious types sit back in awe at your coolness.

Ha ing a fat retirement account along with a decent pension & SS with an ability to gamble whatever I like isn't "coolness". It's the result of a successful working career and smart gambling.

[kewlJ]

Here's a way to retrieve a bit of the credibility you lost on your BS. You're constantly arguing with mdawg and everyone about your fabricated "I play above red & green chips guys!" crap. You MUST have a collection of colorful cards--top level every last one of them. You spends hours and days trying to convince everyone how youths real deal. So go ahead, drop us in our tracks like I just fid you. Post a few of those big shot cards!

I think we have been over this haven't we. Dementia again? I am a table game advantage player. Most table game advantage players, especially card counters play unrated, unless there is a special reason, like special promotion or something.

But I did recently run across an interesting post from the late Alan Mendelson a year before his passing. I had forgotten that Alan made a much longer post at WoV, about how you had used him in regards to your ridiculous claims. The big quote to that post about you was "NEVER any proof, but always an excuse". RIP Alan.

To Rob Singer I did not answer the phone when you called me from the hotel and I have no interest in talking to you ever again. You used me. You deceived me. You lied. And now you've resorted to your old bag of tricks including new lies and slurs. What's next -- that you'll piss on my grave?

[accountinquestion]

But gee kew, you like to say I'm broke because....BECAUSE YOU SAY SO!!! Now you're backtracking, just like every liar on the face of the earth does when they get caught in a lie. But I guess we all know that casinos just hand out their top cards with no play required, right?

Oh by the way, I also have a top card I never use anymore. Legend, from Circa, and it was issued for my lifetime--play or no play. Care to guess why?

Here's a way to retrieve a bit of the credibility you lost on your BS. You're constantly arguing with mdawg and everyone about your fabricated "I play above red & green chips guys!" crap. You MUST have a collection of colorful cards--top level every last one of them. You spends hours and days trying to convince everyone how youths real deal. So go ahead, drop us in our tracks like I just fid you. Post a few of those big shot cards!

I don't care to guess why because I have 0 clue. Why do you have a lifetime card at Circa of the highest tier? Let us pathetic envious types sit back in awe at your coolness.

Ha ing a fat retirement account along with a decent pension & SS with an ability to gamble whatever I like isn't "coolness". It's the result of a successful working career and smart gambling.

I hate to tell you bro - but no one here will ever believe a guy who factors his SS check into his retirement success somehow gambled enough to have a "lifetime top card - play or not". I mean maybe Circa gives them out like candy and they're relatively meaningless? That would be the only possibility.

I heard a story teh other day about a famous gambler. Had a box with 20 million in it at Bellagio and emptied it one night playing craps. Apparently he got a lifetime top card .. The person who told me is reputable.

Anyway, go ahead Rob. You are just a top tier kinda guy. That SS check hits the bank account and boom there you are in the HL section killin' it. We know.

[Rob.Singer]

I don't care to guess why because I have 0 clue. Why do you have a lifetime card at Circa of the highest tier? Let us pathetic envious types sit back in awe at your coolness.

Ha ing a fat retirement account along with a decent pension & SS with an ability to gamble whatever I like isn't "coolness". It's the result of a successful working career and smart gambling.

I hate to tell you bro - but no one here will ever believe a guy who factors his SS check into his retirement success somehow gambled enough to have a "lifetime top card - play or not". I mean maybe Circa gives them out like candy and they're relatively meaningless? That would be the only possibility.

I heard a story teh other day about a famous gambler. Had a box with 20 million in it at Bellagio and emptied it one night playing craps. Apparently he got a lifetime top card .. The person who told me is reputable.

Anyway, go ahead Rob. You are just a top tier kinda guy. That SS check hits the bank account and boom there you are in the HL section killin' it. We know.

I didn't lose.

Again you missed the point: I get SS because I worked at a high level for 15 years. Its pocket change now, same as for my wife. Are you weary of pensions too? I get 2 of those--one from working in the private sector and one from the Fed. Gov't. More pocket change. The real dough is in our retirement accounts. I'd show them to you but you'd have no choice but to say "they're FAKE!"

[kewlJ]

Again you missed the point: I get SS because I worked at a high level for 15 years. Its pocket change now, same as for my wife. Are you weary of pensions too? I get 2 of those--one from working in the private sector and one from the Fed. Gov't. More pocket change. The real dough is in our retirement accounts. I'd show them to you but you'd have no choice but to say "they're FAKE!"

This is just more of the Rob Singer bullshit that you have done for a quarter century, presenting yourself as something/something you are not. There was no "high level" for 15 years. You are not Jason Bourne or the American James Bond. You don't have ties to the CIA or any other crap you claim.

You were just a mid-level worker for the government and private sector. And there is nothing wrong with that. Whatever pension and SS, you and your wife get....good for you. That in no way proves or has anything to do with a quarter century of absurd gambling claims.

[kewlJ]

Rob seriously, look at your gambling forum history.

You initially tried to be a VP advantage player like Dancer. You yourself admitted you lost several hundred thousand dollars over a number of years. Failed AP.

Next you went straight to the voodoo gambling book and claimed a betting system using a progression, something that was disproven to be +EV about a thousand years ago. Oh but you combine it with "special" less optimal plays, and other long disproven voodoo gambling concepts as if stacking -EV on top of -EV makes +EV.

With no one buying that you stole an actual play from real players, the double-up bug, that was in the news. You had to go back and completely change your own story and timelines to make room for this new stolen claim.

And when no one bought that, you started posting all these pictures of multiple fake jackpots.

Rob you are just a guy that worked and had a gambling addiction. And along the way, you became really jealous and bitter of real advantage players that find something to play at an advantage and actually win. That is the story of Rob Singer.

And now in your 80's you are living off your kids. What successful person in life does that? No adult children trying to live their lives want a geriatric parent or parents living with them. And no respectable older people that have money, would burden their kids like that. They would find a nice retirement independent living community. There are families that are forced to take in an older parent, but they are not families with millions of dollars like you claim.

I am sorry that you have such regrets in the twilight of your life. But get over it. You made your decisions and bed. Dont be blaming others.

[coach belly]

No adult children trying to live their lives want a geriatric parent or parents living with them. And no respectable older people that have money, would burden their kids like that.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

Do you have adult children?

Are you a respectable older person with money?

Is your mother that much of a mess that you consider her to be a burden?

You are one fucked up ignorant arrogant bubble-boy asshole.

[kewlJ]

No adult children trying to live their lives want a geriatric parent or parents living with them. And no respectable older people that have money, would burden their kids like that.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

Do you have adult children?

Are you a respectable older person with money?

Is your mother that much of a mess that you consider her to be a burden?

You are one fucked up ignorant arrogant bubble-boy asshole.

You arguing THIS is just proof that you will argue ANYTHING. You are just here to argue. I think everyone recognised that a long time ago.

[coach belly]

You arguing THIS is just proof that you will argue ANYTHING

I'll argue any ignorant assertion, you just happen to make many more of them than anybody else.

You can't answer questions.

You're a coward who taps out like a bitch.

Arrogant ignorant backwards-thinking Florida swamp trash.

[Rob.Singer]

Rob seriously, look at your gambling forum history.

You initially tried to be a VP advantage player like Dancer. You yourself admitted you lost several hundred thousand dollars over a number of years. Failed AP.

Next you went straight to the voodoo gambling book and claimed a betting system using a progression, something that was disproven to be +EV about a thousand years ago. Oh but you combine it with "special" less optimal plays, and other long disproven voodoo gambling concepts as if stacking -EV on top of -EV makes +EV.

With no one buying that you stole an actual play from real players, the double-up bug, that was in the news. You had to go back and completely change your own story and timelines to make room for this new stolen claim.

And when no one bought that, you started posting all these pictures of multiple fake jackpots.

Rob you are just a guy that worked and had a gambling addiction. And along the way, you became really jealous and bitter of real advantage players that find something to play at an advantage and actually win. That is the story of Rob Singer.

And now in your 80's you are living off your kids. What successful person in life does that? No adult children trying to live their lives want a geriatric parent or parents living with them. And no respectable older people that have money, would burden their kids like that. They would find a nice retirement independent living community. There are families that are forced to take in an older parent, but they are not families with millions of dollars like you claim.

I am sorry that you have such regrets in the twilight of your life. But get over it. You made your decisions and bed. Dont be blaming others.

The biggest reason why people laugh at you is due to your penchant to make things up when you get super frustrated about those who know what a phony you are. In fact, it hurts you so much that it takes you posting your same lies hundreds of times, and you STILL get nowhere.

In the meantime....thank you for showing us how much my posting that card irritated your agenda here.

And I want MORE!!!

[accountinquestion]

Ha ing a fat retirement account along with a decent pension & SS with an ability to gamble whatever I like isn't "coolness". It's the result of a successful working career and smart gambling.

I hate to tell you bro - but no one here will ever believe a guy who factors his SS check into his retirement success somehow gambled enough to have a "lifetime top card - play or not". I mean maybe Circa gives them out like candy and they're relatively meaningless? That would be the only possibility.

I heard a story teh other day about a famous gambler. Had a box with 20 million in it at Bellagio and emptied it one night playing craps. Apparently he got a lifetime top card .. The person who told me is reputable.

Anyway, go ahead Rob. You are just a top tier kinda guy. That SS check hits the bank account and boom there you are in the HL section killin' it. We know.

I didn't lose.

Again you missed the point: I get SS because I worked at a high level for 15 years. Its pocket change now, same as for my wife. Are you weary of pensions too? I get 2 of those--one from working in the private sector and one from the Fed. Gov't. More pocket change. The real dough is in our retirement accounts. I'd show them to you but you'd have no choice but to say "they're FAKE!"

I really give 0 shits about your accounts but just found it funny that you'd brag about receiving SS.

but .. I don't think you get it. It isn't that the money doesn't matter, or that you worked a lot or whatever, it is that you actually bother to brag about it. It doesn't register to you. I find that LOL. "I'm so rich I receive SS" sorta mentality sounds about right. I've topped out my SS tax last several years but who care? Seriously.

Are you trying to duck the claim of this forever top tier circa card? That you got for winning? At VP? like ... they love their VP players. Lifetime. Yea.. sure lol.

[coach belly]

just found it funny that you'd brag about receiving SS.

$10K+ per week, but not every week.

[Rob.Singer]

I hate to tell you bro - but no one here will ever believe a guy who factors his SS check into his retirement success somehow gambled enough to have a "lifetime top card - play or not". I mean maybe Circa gives them out like candy and they're relatively meaningless? That would be the only possibility.

I heard a story teh other day about a famous gambler. Had a box with 20 million in it at Bellagio and emptied it one night playing craps. Apparently he got a lifetime top card .. The person who told me is reputable.

Anyway, go ahead Rob. You are just a top tier kinda guy. That SS check hits the bank account and boom there you are in the HL section killin' it. We know.

I didn't lose.

Again you missed the point: I get SS because I worked at a high level for 15 years. Its pocket change now, same as for my wife. Are you weary of pensions too? I get 2 of those--one from working in the private sector and one from the Fed. Gov't. More pocket change. The real dough is in our retirement accounts. I'd show them to you but you'd have no choice but to say "they're FAKE!"

I really give 0 shits about your accounts but just found it funny that you'd brag about receiving SS.

but .. I don't think you get it. It isn't that the money doesn't matter, or that you worked a lot or whatever, it is that you actually bother to brag about it. It doesn't register to you. I find that LOL. "I'm so rich I receive SS" sorta mentality sounds about right. I've topped out my SS tax last several years but who care? Seriously.

Now you're beginning to get it! I bloviate about my background, family, and successes because I KNOW it gets under all kinds of skin here. It's similar to the number I did on kew today. He got so flustered over it that he came out with newer revised unflattering lies about my life, and he knows everyone knows that he has no idea about anything! He even bumped up my age by 10 years He'll probably toss and turn for the next 7 nights....

By the way....there's no "coolness" about being this old. The only ones who think I'm "cool" are my 4 grandchildren, and that's because I take them shooting and occasionally hand them surprise spending money.

[Rob.Singer]

Rob seriously, look at your gambling forum history.

You initially tried to be a VP advantage player like Dancer. You yourself admitted you lost several hundred thousand dollars over a number of years. Failed AP.

Next you went straight to the voodoo gambling book and claimed a betting system using a progression, something that was disproven to be +EV about a thousand years ago. Oh but you combine it with "special" less optimal plays, and other long disproven voodoo gambling concepts as if stacking -EV on top of -EV makes +EV.

With no one buying that you stole an actual play from real players, the double-up bug, that was in the news. You had to go back and completely change your own story and timelines to make room for this new stolen claim.

And when no one bought that, you started posting all these pictures of multiple fake jackpots.

Rob you are just a guy that worked and had a gambling addiction. And along the way, you became really jealous and bitter of real advantage players that find something to play at an advantage and actually win. That is the story of Rob Singer.

And now in your 80's you are living off your kids. What successful person in life does that? No adult children trying to live their lives want a geriatric parent or parents living with them. And no respectable older people that have money, would burden their kids like that. They would find a nice retirement independent living community. There are families that are forced to take in an older parent, but they are not families with millions of dollars like you claim.

I am sorry that you have such regrets in the twilight of your life. But get over it. You made your decisions and bed. Dont be blaming others.

The biggest reason why people laugh at you is due to your penchant to make things up when you get super frustrated about those who know what a phony you are. In fact, it hurts you so much that it takes you posting your same lies hundreds of times, and you STILL get nowhere.

In the meantime....thank you for showing us how much my posting that card irritated your agenda here.

And I want MORE!!!

And there IS more!

I now see kew says, besides adding a decade to my age along with his usual crazy spews, we're here in the Phx. area somehow living with and off of our kids (one lives in S. Az. and the other in Minn.) who, by definition, HAVE to be feeding me hundreds of thousands in gambling money. I mean, people who live with and off their kids can't possibly have money of their own to gamble at some of the highest class joints across the country....or can they???

[coach belly]

there's no "coolness" about being this old.

Maybe not, but it's nothing to be ashamed of.

Not sure why dopes think smart remarks, about having booked a larger number of years, are an insult.

Almost anybody can be 20. 70 is reserved for the elite.

[MisterV]

there's no "coolness" about being this old.

Maybe not, but it's nothing to be ashamed of.

Not sure why dopes think smart remarks, about having booked a larger number of years, are an insult.

Almost anybody can be 20. 70 is reserved for the elite.

You can have a lot more "fun" with a 9 1/2 inch anaconda when you're 20 than you can when you're 70.

[coach belly]

You can have a lot more "fun" with a 9 1/2 inch anaconda when you're 20 than you can when you're 70.

There's pills for that V.

And while tewlj likes 'em on the young side, Keystone doesn't care how old you are...he spreads for 1 - 80.