Documenting History

[Rob.Singer]

Not quite. Chuck D. died and his wife did not have his gambling knowledge or the stomach to handle all the hate-filled calls and emails that he loved. She wanted me to only write about strategy and I declined, because I always taught and explained all strategy questions for free. That's why it's not in my books either. The little people SHOULD be able to get this.

I did write about that video poker.com slug, CDDENVER I think his name was, who was among the clowns over there that constantly lied about me and my family. Of course arci was one of them. Then the idiot died suddenly, and I took great pleasure stomping and slitting on his grave. "Eat Dirt, Pig " I think was the article's title. Then Skip Hughes, another vp.com Singer-hating hack, dropped dead also, but I was easy on him since he made my point by dying penniless in Santa Monica after having failed in LV for years as an "AP" then being forced to move back in with mommy & daddy. He humiliated himself enough in life that it sufficed as far as I was concerned.

[redietz]

Rob, you're being unduly harsh here. There was a time when people could make a living playing video poker as what you term "advantage players." Those times have, I believe, passed. If Dancer is the flagship of this corps, then maybe almost no one is doing it, because Dancer appears to have every piece of information at his disposal and seems to be scrambling. The problem with Skip Hughes and others may have been that they either failed to recognize the sea change or were unable to change their behaviors when the good plays disappeared. Or, perhaps, the high volume/high stakes players ran into some not necessarily random results during certain big player promotions that gutted them.

It wasn't their strategy that was flawed. It was, as you sometimes say, either their addiction to what had previously worked or their refusal to acknowledge that not all machines in all locations at all times are on the up-and-up.

[Rob.Singer]

I can't really argue with that.

[arcimede$]

Red ... while I don't think there are many folks making a living playing VP, there are still opportunities at low denominations to make a little money and earn enough freebies for a recreational gambler to reduce their living expenses.

[Vegas Vic]

Then the idiot died suddenly, and I took great pleasure stomping and slitting on his grave. "Eat Dirt, Pig " I think was the article's title .

I see you're also into literary sadism.

You really need to keep these perversions personal.

[Rob.Singer]

VV, it's all about What Goes Around Always Does Come Around....and in such a righteous kind of way.
Ask arci

[Vegas Vic]

VV, it's all about What Goes Around Always Does Come Around....and in such a righteous kind of way.
Ask arci

But you are not the righteous one who makes that decision. You just think you are.

[mickeycrimm]

I made a lot of money from reading Gaming Today. But it wasn't from reading Rob or the other columnists. It was from reading the business news. That's the value of reading Gaming Today.

[Alan Mendelson]

Thanks for joining Mickey!

[mickeycrimm]

Thank you. Alan. I know that in joining this group I'm goiing to get slammed hard by Singer. I'm willing to take the blows to give you guys the real deal about gambling.

[Alan Mendelson]

Thank you. Alan. I know that in joining this group I'm goiing to get slammed hard by Singer. I'm willing to take the blows to give you guys the real deal about gambling.

I followed you on Wizard of Vegas and I look forward to your articles here. Thanks again for joining.

[mickeycrimm]

Thanks, Alan. What I meant about the business news in Gaming Today is this. Little headlines like "Pioneer Hotel & Gambling Hall Set To Install Acre's Gaming's Double Time System" or "Detroit Motor City Installs Acre's Gamings Lucky Coin Bonus System." I was familiar with the Lucky Coin Bonus System because it was there at the Mandalay Bay opening. We had beat Mandalay so bad that they stripped the system out two months later. So when I read about the Pioneer putting the Double Time system in I immediately took off for Laughlin to see if it was exploitable. We beat them up pretty bad in the first month and a half until they tweaked it down enough that we lost interest.

[mickeycrimm]

As far as documenting history goes I'll tell you something I've seen many times. A casino installs $1 FPDW (100.76%) in a dozen machine bank. New players show up, exactly what the casino wants. All the machines get action. The bank is generating $50,000 an hour is action through the heart of the day. This goes on for two weeks. Then slot operations cuts the payscale to Ugly Ducks. The new players disappear. The bank is a ghost town not even generating $10,000 a day in action.

I've never seen even one casino go "oops, we messed up" and put the FPDW back in. The question is: Why would they run off all that business? It's a pretty simple answer. They were losing money.

[Dan Druff]

As far as documenting history goes I'll tell you something I've seen many times. A casino installs $1 FPDW (100.76%) in a dozen machine bank. New players show up, exactly what the casino wants. All the machines get action. The bank is generating $50,000 an hour is action through the heart of the day. This goes on for two weeks. Then slot operations cuts the payscale to Ugly Ducks. The new players disappear. The bank is a ghost town not even generating $10,000 a day in action.

I've never seen even one casino go "oops, we messed up" and put the FPDW back in. The question is: Why would they run off all that business? It's a pretty simple answer. They were losing money.

I think any 100%+ paytable is a mistake in this day and age, as those machines will primarily be played by APs who will exploit it and the machine will lose money.

[mickeycrimm]

One thing Rob's articles will accomplish is to pop the balloons of those selling their vp wares as if it makes any difference to winning and losing. I'm an AP, and I'm firmly in Frank's camp, namely that winning any serious money playing vp in Las Vegas is now a fool's errand. The only reason Dancer and Scott and others can survive is that they have special ratings that return more cash back and comps than 99.9% of normal joes and because they may indeed be getting direct rebates on losses above and beyond their cash back.
Now I can play 25-cent FPDW at the Palms for enjoyment and enough profit for dinner, and I can briefly play NSUD at the Boyd properties on multi-point senior days to eke out a profit and keep my comped nights coming, but actually playing with the intent of making any real money is a high variance, low edge nightmare.

The Dancer column wherein he got relieved of a couple thousand by a compadre demonstrates how tight things are -- Dancer flew cross country to play somewhere he'd never been with a person he hadn't met -- all to make a projected 4-5K. If he's doing great in LV, he probably doesn't make that trip.

Dancer has been flying across country on plays for many years. I've heard many a complaint about him showing up. Mississippi was one of his favorite targets. Paladin, a former member of vpFREE complained about Dancer showing up on a Chicagoland boat and snapping of a $5 NSUD progressive royal for $$70,000.

[Rob.Singer]

Dancer has been flying across country on plays for many years. I've heard many a complaint about him showing up. Mississippi was one of his favorite targets. Paladin, a former member of vpFREE complained about Dancer showing up on a Chicagoland boat and snapping of a $5 NSUD progressive royal for $$70,000.

Dancer posted as "Paladin" and makes up most of his stories in order to keep interest in his brand. Look for him to someday go on the forums begging for money in order to "keep writing his player-advocate" columns like failed video poker "AP" wizard found himself doing.

[mickeycrimm]

Dancer posted as "Paladin" and makes up most of his stories in order to keep interest in his brand. Look for him to someday go on the forums begging for money in order to "keep writing his player-advocate" columns like failed video poker "AP" wizard found himself doing.

You are the first and only person who has ever accussed Paladin of being Dancer. He continually slammed Dancer and Scott on vpFREE and was banned for it.

[Dan Druff]

You are the first and only person who has ever accussed Paladin of being Dancer. He continually slammed Dancer and Scott on vpFREE and was banned for it.

Rob always lives in his own fantasy world which he conforms to suit his biases and hatreds.

[Rob.Singer]

The reason no one else has exposed the Dancer/Palladin ruse is everyone else is afraid of being banned for making Dancer look stupid.

Dancer makes a living out of arguing with himself Mickey. Just as Dan takes a loss whenever he talks to himself.

[mickeycrimm]

The reason no one else has exposed the Dancer/Palladin ruse is everyone else is afraid of being banned for making Dancer look stupid.
Dancer makes a living out of arguing with himself Mickey. Just as Dan takes a loss whenever he talks to himself.

You are the one who is experienced with the use of sockpuppets. If anyone cares to take a look just go to the FREEvpFREE archives and look up a poster called Acesup. This poster showed up one day and was an unabashed Singer fan. This went on for a couple of weeks but then Rob got his personnas tangled up and posted as Rob Singer under the Acesup username. The whole thing was quite comical as Rob tried to lie his way out of the situation.