I was waiting for this!! There are seven months left in 2015. I wish I can predict the future.Originally Posted by FABismonte
I was waiting for this!! There are seven months left in 2015. I wish I can predict the future.Originally Posted by FABismonte
Either that was a shifty answer or you read the question wrong. Whichever, the more important questions I think are: how much profit did you leave there with, and did you walk immediately after hitting that royal or did you employ your "keep playing until most of It's gone by continuously lowering your exit point" strategy? Also, when will you be going to a casino again? If you were behind until this and that great royal at Caesar's, it might be wise to thank your lucky stars and hang it up for 2015.
Let's put two and two together: Previously I posted that I was a couple thousand behind on the year. With $200 in the machine I hit a 3X royal for $3,000. I think that puts me ahead (or very close to it) for the year, don't you?
Rob, why is it your concern if I continue to play in 2015?
I will return to Rincon as long as the free play lasts. I don't know how much longer that will be because my weekly free play has dropped to $85 and there are some daily promotions that can add about $70 or $80. There are some ways to gather several weeks of free play into your account before actually playing and some of us regulars do that.
There is no incentive for me to play to earn tier points: I've reached 7 Stars and the "signature bonuses" are not worth the extra play that is involved. When I do play it is with someone else's TR card because I want them to get the points.
Besides, I am only a recreational player. If I return to Caesars in Vegas it will be because of a show or promotion or special event or work (I do have clients in town).
But Rob, I don't think you should preach her. It's not your business why others decide to go to casinos. Your advice is good but you should refrain from making judgment calls.
Hey Alan, isn't it a problem if you get a hand pay with a w2g using someone else's card?
Oh by the way it's 1/11.
It's happened a few times now. But I switch the cards before the floor person shows up.
Got my 2nd royal of 2015 Friday night.
Alan, I only brought it up because I read where you said you were not going back to Rincon. Sure you can change your mind, but you aren't going to admit that the $5 royal gave you new ammunition & confidence enuf to "pull you in" for more action when you've said many times that 200 bucks isn't worth your time to go there? I know you're mostly talking to other 7-stars members with the same interests and weaknesses as you, but we're all not like that. Thus, the comments & questions.
It's legally no problem. You could be playing with Obama's card. The only thing that matters, ever, is who is playing that hit the jackpot. If the casino has a policy that strictly disallows the practice however, they then have the right not to pay the jackpot.Originally Posted by quahaug
That's one of several issues I have beaten the casino on in an appeal to the gaming board. Player was using someone else's card. Jackpot was hit. He pulled the card. They refused to pay because he was playing on someone else's card.
On appeal, we claimed that someone else had left their card in the machine and he didn't notice until the jackpot was hit and he went to pull the card to set on the machine so the slot attendant could put her card in to pay the jackpot. That and some legal BS quoting the regulations here that the jackpot must be paid to the person that pulls the lever or hits the button, etc.
We did agree that an estimate of points earned on that card prior to the jackpot would be voided.
That's a sensible argument. Without it you probably would not have won. The give on the points issue seems to be some kind of compromise. In Nevada, you can play with anyone's card and the points are valid unless there's a specific policy that using another person's card is not allowed. Palms, for instance, has that policy. Stations does too. When I train people and I'm playing I regularly use their cards at casinos that I'm not aware of them having this policy at.
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I don't recall the attendant ever even looking at my player's card, they just pull it out, hand it to me, and stick their card in.Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
I always figured the name on player's card didn't matter, the name on the drivers license was all they needed.
Rob: I hit the royal at Caesars. I was there for Memorial Weekend. When I go to Rincon it's to play free play and since the points don't matter to me I play on a friend's card. I have made many "hit and run" trips to Rincon that I have not talked about here because I have clients in the Temecula area and I am only about 20 minutes from Rincon.Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Absolute BS. There is no policy and there are no rules about disallowing a jackpot because someone else's card is in the machine. Now, if you say there is such a rule SHOW IT TO ME and please don't tell me it's in a storage locker in New Mexico.Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Just about two weeks ago another player got quad aces with a kicker for $10,000 playing on a friend's card at Rincon. No one said a word. He just shrugged and said "oh, that's my friend's card."
And as I said before if they want to ban me -- they'd be doing me a favor.
Well said coach belly.Originally Posted by coach belly
By the way -- what also matters is who pushes the button. If two of you are sitting at a machine and the girlfriend pushes the button and gets the winner -- it's the girlfriend's jackpot.
Congrats dannyj!
dannyj where were you playing? 9/5 DDB is gone from Rincon and I think it still exists at the Caesars properties in Vegas... but I don't play it there. Nice hit, too!!
Alan, you need to go back thru Dancer's articles and find where he hit a $100,000 royal at Sunset Station while playing on Shirley's card in order to get a higher level for her because she couldn't play anymore due to her health issues. They disallowed the jackpot and showed him their policy about playing on ANYONE else's card. He then had Compton or someone talk to management about how he was a sponsor on their "optimal pay" games throughout the Stations casino, so they finally paid him days later out of professional courtesy. I also got stopped using the card of someone I was training at Palms, and I had not hit a jackpot at that point.Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
So before you assert anything is BS or claim to want to see everything you don't know about in writing, give it a little research effort yourself. And don't tell me it's in your lock box at Caesar's and you can't fetch it for the next umpteen months because you're not going there to gamble anymore.
Interesting subject. You do not need a club card to play, right? But some casinos will not pay if a wrong card is in a machine? Show me that casino policy.
Casinos can have whatever policies or rules they want. However, gaming law supersedes casino policies/rules.
Generally I would agree with you but in Nevada there are many gaming rules that are not written by the NGC including the rules for playing craps. You will not find the standards for a legal throw written but they are "understood" yet casinos can have their own interpretation. I found this out after my incident at Bellagio.Originally Posted by RS__
RS__ do you know the rule on cards? The only rule I know is who pushed the button.
What incident at Bellagio? I thought you just got kicked out / backed off for the DI stuff.
If I remember correctly, a legal throw is where the shooter throws the dice in a forward motion and attempts to hit the back wall (or something weird like that).
I am not familiar with any laws that say playing on someone else's card is illegal (if card is legally obtained and card owner allows you to play it, that is), nor of any laws that state a player may not be paid because he was using someone else's card.
I am not interested in casino policy. That is, unless the law states it is up to casino policy on whether or not to pay a jackpot. I have never heard of any such law, either.
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